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Its hard to know what to think about this, they've had similar thrashings this year already. Ramsey when he came in told the coaches not to worry about the scores or the winning, its all about player development, but surely
a) Getting thrashed each week is not conducive to development b) You need to have a winning attitude, its actually a big part of being a professional sportsman.
Is it all about the way we are approaching the youth, or is this the fruits of the Mike Rigg era, when we lost a lot of kids and we gained a load from just a couple of hertfordshire clubs. Or both?
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 15:30 - Nov 16 with 4351 views
Ramsay / the club put the cherry on the cake with the moves made in the youth department. Paul Hall has his UEFA Alicence but hasn't the experience to be involved at QPR. At Brentford they have ( not sure if he is still there } an English coach that belonged to the Barcelona youth serf up. They are very well set up. We covered over the cracks by having the excellent Steve Gallen run-in the show pretty much as a mom & pop shop. Perry Suckling , really?!!
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 15:47 - Nov 16 with 4320 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 12:31 - Nov 16 by JonDoeman
The under 16's lost 10 -0 , the same day. The art of defending seems to be lost at QPR .
It seems that every time I have a look at the official QPR site, our teams have always lost..U,21's, U18's...U16's...the elusive coaches going about there business ....jammy sods, good work if you can get it...!
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 15:48 - Nov 16 with 4311 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 15:30 - Nov 16 by vegasranger
Ramsay / the club put the cherry on the cake with the moves made in the youth department. Paul Hall has his UEFA Alicence but hasn't the experience to be involved at QPR. At Brentford they have ( not sure if he is still there } an English coach that belonged to the Barcelona youth serf up. They are very well set up. We covered over the cracks by having the excellent Steve Gallen run-in the show pretty much as a mom & pop shop. Perry Suckling , really?!!
So Ramsey wasn't able to turn around a 1990s youth and scouting set up in 12 months?
Bastard.
[Post edited 16 Nov 2015 15:51]
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 15:50 - Nov 16 with 4315 views
This is the result of firing the majority of our coaching staff (by e-mail) and replacing them with mates. You cannot do that and hope for success.
We've also implemented a number of changes to match the first teams tactics as well as a move from a focus on star individuals to even time spent on every player which is insane to me.
At all levels of the club are those that are not qualified. I'm really struggling to see the logical progression of goalkeeping coach to youth director.
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 16:16 - Nov 16 by Mvpeter
This is the result of firing the majority of our coaching staff (by e-mail) and replacing them with mates. You cannot do that and hope for success.
We've also implemented a number of changes to match the first teams tactics as well as a move from a focus on star individuals to even time spent on every player which is insane to me.
At all levels of the club are those that are not qualified. I'm really struggling to see the logical progression of goalkeeping coach to youth director.
I'm really struggling to see anything logical in QPR at the moment, let alone progression.
There aint half been some clever bastards.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 16:37 - Nov 16 with 4224 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 16:29 - Nov 16 by Monahoop
I'm really struggling to see anything logical in QPR at the moment, let alone progression.
But nothing will improve with a new manager though, no really it won't, it won't. I keep saying it to myself, but it still doesn't make sense. Well maybe it will get better then, just a thought.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 16:44 - Nov 16 with 4184 views
We very well may be utter fackin gash at u-16, u-18 and u-21 level, but thankfully The long term Ramsey plan is bearing much fruit as were the envy of the rest of the league when it comes to retaining our decency and smiling like chimps about to be shot to the moon by the CCCP in 1963
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 17:59 - Nov 16 with 4053 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 15:48 - Nov 16 by BazzaInTheLoft
So Ramsey wasn't able to turn around a 1990s youth and scouting set up in 12 months?
Bastard.
[Post edited 16 Nov 2015 15:51]
That's complete rubbish. Our youth system is way worse since Ramsay brought his mates in with his FIFA 2016 new QPR ethos. Ramsay can't hold a light to Steve Gallen and what he achieved with little support from the owners.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 18:05 - Nov 16 with 4045 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 17:59 - Nov 16 by vegasranger
That's complete rubbish. Our youth system is way worse since Ramsay brought his mates in with his FIFA 2016 new QPR ethos. Ramsay can't hold a light to Steve Gallen and what he achieved with little support from the owners.
But it is that lack of support for the youth team over many years, while others right on our doorstep - Fulham and Brentford in particular - have been pouring huge resources into theirs that is the problem here, not "Chris Ramsey and his mates". Previously we had Mark Hughes and his mates - Glynn Hodges and all the Welsh lot. That's what happens, whoever is in charge brings their mates - Joe Jordan and Kevin Bond. It's a factor, but it's not the problem.
Our problems are far more deep rooted than less than a year with Chris Ramsey overseeing bits of things. Though I suspect that's going to fall on deaf ears. The last player we produced for our first team of adequate quality was Ray Jones, before that it was Richard Langley.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 18:12 - Nov 16 with 4023 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 17:59 - Nov 16 by vegasranger
That's complete rubbish. Our youth system is way worse since Ramsay brought his mates in with his FIFA 2016 new QPR ethos. Ramsay can't hold a light to Steve Gallen and what he achieved with little support from the owners.
I don't know what a FIFA 2016 new QPR ethos, but I must admit it sounds scary.
You can't judge a man on the youth team after 11 months. Players aged 12 who arrived in his time are still 12.
It's not a Ramsey v Gallen contest because Ramsey wasn't in it!
EDIT Sorry North, you got in there first.
[Post edited 16 Nov 2015 18:13]
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 18:19 - Nov 16 with 4015 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 18:05 - Nov 16 by Northernr
But it is that lack of support for the youth team over many years, while others right on our doorstep - Fulham and Brentford in particular - have been pouring huge resources into theirs that is the problem here, not "Chris Ramsey and his mates". Previously we had Mark Hughes and his mates - Glynn Hodges and all the Welsh lot. That's what happens, whoever is in charge brings their mates - Joe Jordan and Kevin Bond. It's a factor, but it's not the problem.
Our problems are far more deep rooted than less than a year with Chris Ramsey overseeing bits of things. Though I suspect that's going to fall on deaf ears. The last player we produced for our first team of adequate quality was Ray Jones, before that it was Richard Langley.
I don't think anyone's under any illusions that we're a major youth power but there has been a notable drop.
A small drop in results could be a good thing, it might be the result of encouraging better football or an increased focus on technique and learning rather than the final score.
But they're getting thrashed. Across the age groups I'm told and that's quite new. That's no way to learn.
The turnover since Les arrived is uncharacteristic of a normal change in manager or so I am told.
Judging purely on the results, and that's not the be-all and end-all at U18 level, this is surely the worst U18 side in many a year. Is it because our recruitment is poor? Is it because Paul Furlong and team are not a patch on Steve Gallen? Or is it just a blip?
It could be that, even in a struggling side, one or two may develop, but it doesn't look hopeful.
The crunch will come when they start looking to see if any of that side justify any professional contract.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 20:52 - Nov 16 with 3850 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 19:40 - Nov 16 by derbyhoop
Judging purely on the results, and that's not the be-all and end-all at U18 level, this is surely the worst U18 side in many a year. Is it because our recruitment is poor? Is it because Paul Furlong and team are not a patch on Steve Gallen? Or is it just a blip?
It could be that, even in a struggling side, one or two may develop, but it doesn't look hopeful.
The crunch will come when they start looking to see if any of that side justify any professional contract.
A bit of all of that, plus our youth system has been pathetic for years while Reading (top flight of the junior set up, a league higher than Arsenal even), Brentford, Fulham, Southampton, Spurs have all been throwing money at theirs and scouting our area.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 20:54 - Nov 16 with 3846 views
Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 19:13 - Nov 16 by Mvpeter
I don't think anyone's under any illusions that we're a major youth power but there has been a notable drop.
A small drop in results could be a good thing, it might be the result of encouraging better football or an increased focus on technique and learning rather than the final score.
But they're getting thrashed. Across the age groups I'm told and that's quite new. That's no way to learn.
The turnover since Les arrived is uncharacteristic of a normal change in manager or so I am told.
Well whoever told you that (the last bit) is wrong. The turnover was far bigger and carried out less tactfully under Mike Rigg and Glynn Hodges.
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Under 18's lose 8-1 in Essex on 20:55 - Nov 16 with 3838 views
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