| Are we ever going to own our ground? 10:24 - Jun 19 with 16398 views | daledaledale |
Ten months on since Keith Hill announced the football club were trying to buy Spotland stadium. Does anyone know if we are any closer to completing the sale?
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 10:48 - Jun 19 with 6079 views | Dale23years |
been trying to buy stadium for couple of years now. My gut feeling is that they are talking shite, i do hope am wrong. | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 10:52 - Jun 19 with 6070 views | aleanddale |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 10:48 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
been trying to buy stadium for couple of years now. My gut feeling is that they are talking shite, i do hope am wrong. |
Who is talking shite??
I think it is very complicated with 3 parties looking to get the best deal...
It would not suprise me one bit if this runs and runs!! Regretfully. | | | |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:14 - Jun 19 with 6025 views | Dale23years |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 10:52 - Jun 19 by aleanddale |
Who is talking shite??
I think it is very complicated with 3 parties looking to get the best deal...
It would not suprise me one bit if this runs and runs!! Regretfully. |
our board of directors/chairman if they were really bothered/interested in buying ground it would of happened by now. At fans forum ( i think) a director said we we closer than we ever been to buying ground at hopefully and we should hear something before end of season ( don't know which end of season through) we not heard nothing since then.
I do hope am wrong but just a gut feeling [Post edited 19 Jun 2015 11:17]
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:18 - Jun 19 with 6015 views | 1mark1 |
The deal will be done when Rochdale AFC agree to pay the required amount of money to Rochdale MBC in a way that is acceptable to RMBC.. |  |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:24 - Jun 19 with 5994 views | dingdangblue |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:18 - Jun 19 by 1mark1 |
The deal will be done when Rochdale AFC agree to pay the required amount of money to Rochdale MBC in a way that is acceptable to RMBC.. |
Does that mean an amount has been agreed with the RFL for their share of the Stadium? |  |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:25 - Jun 19 with 5990 views | Dale23years |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:18 - Jun 19 by 1mark1 |
The deal will be done when Rochdale AFC agree to pay the required amount of money to Rochdale MBC in a way that is acceptable to RMBC.. |
never then | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:32 - Jun 19 with 5966 views | SuddenLad |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:25 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
never then |
Whatever cynicism you have, the deal could have been done a long time ago, had it not been for RMBC.
I'm sure RAFC are fully committed to owning the ground but have been stymied by others, not a lack of will to do the deal. |  |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:33 - Jun 19 with 5966 views | aleanddale |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:25 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
never then |
I agree with part of your sentiment... It is dragging on and communication could / should be better from the club.
Even a can't really comment as it would effect the desired outcome statement is better than a wall of silence.
Personally I think Dale are very keen to progress but the stalling lies within the council.
Even hornets have agreed its a good way for both clubs to progress. | | | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:39 - Jun 19 with 5949 views | SuddenLad |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:33 - Jun 19 by aleanddale |
I agree with part of your sentiment... It is dragging on and communication could / should be better from the club.
Even a can't really comment as it would effect the desired outcome statement is better than a wall of silence.
Personally I think Dale are very keen to progress but the stalling lies within the council.
Even hornets have agreed its a good way for both clubs to progress. |
RAFC and RMBC have both previously made statements that 'negotiations are ongoing, but are at a delicate stage' .
If there's no further progress, there's no point in making pointless statements.
At the last Council meeting where the matter was fully discussed, the public were barred from attending and the meeting was effectively held 'in secret'.
I have no idea what the secrecy is all about, but they cited 'sensitive commercial information' as the reason. | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:39 - Jun 19 with 5948 views | dingdangblue |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:33 - Jun 19 by aleanddale |
I agree with part of your sentiment... It is dragging on and communication could / should be better from the club.
Even a can't really comment as it would effect the desired outcome statement is better than a wall of silence.
Personally I think Dale are very keen to progress but the stalling lies within the council.
Even hornets have agreed its a good way for both clubs to progress. |
Its nothing to do with Hornets really though, they are paying tenants along with us but they have no means to try and buy the stadium. Have the RFL agreed a deal with Dale? Is it just the Council holding things up ? Their share of the stadium is the least amount? | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:46 - Jun 19 with 5919 views | Dale23years |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:39 - Jun 19 by dingdangblue |
Its nothing to do with Hornets really though, they are paying tenants along with us but they have no means to try and buy the stadium. Have the RFL agreed a deal with Dale? Is it just the Council holding things up ? Their share of the stadium is the least amount? |
if you wanted to buy the ground you pay the going amount, you will make the money bk plus more in the long term.
every passing day the club doesn't own the ground the club is losing money | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:51 - Jun 19 with 5895 views | midlandsdale |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:46 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
if you wanted to buy the ground you pay the going amount, you will make the money bk plus more in the long term.
every passing day the club doesn't own the ground the club is losing money |
As previously highlighted, this isn't just a roll up with a cheque issue and its all sorted. It would have been sorted long ago if it was that simple! |  | | |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:51 - Jun 19 with 5895 views | dingdangblue |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:46 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
if you wanted to buy the ground you pay the going amount, you will make the money bk plus more in the long term.
every passing day the club doesn't own the ground the club is losing money |
Its more complicated than just paying the going amount though. There has been this 600k owed to the council mentioned numerous times on here. | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:54 - Jun 19 with 5884 views | D_Alien |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:46 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
if you wanted to buy the ground you pay the going amount, you will make the money bk plus more in the long term.
every passing day the club doesn't own the ground the club is losing money |
So Dale23years, if you had £200k in a bank account paying very low interest (i.e. losing money) and had put in an offer of £175k for a house that was worth £175k but the owner wanted £190k - you'd pay the £190k since "you were losing money" ? |  |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:57 - Jun 19 with 5867 views | Dale23years |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:51 - Jun 19 by midlandsdale |
As previously highlighted, this isn't just a roll up with a cheque issue and its all sorted. It would have been sorted long ago if it was that simple! |
if we pay what the council want Rochdale would own the ground now it is that simple . Our chairman and directors need to look at bigger picture in this situation. | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:59 - Jun 19 with 5858 views | SuddenLad |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:57 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
if we pay what the council want Rochdale would own the ground now it is that simple . Our chairman and directors need to look at bigger picture in this situation. |
You obviously have no idea about the situation, the complex negotiations necessary and the previous information published by RAFC and RMBC.
Take the time to inform yourself about what's already been reported and then think again. | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:03 - Jun 19 with 5851 views | Dale23years |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:54 - Jun 19 by D_Alien |
So Dale23years, if you had £200k in a bank account paying very low interest (i.e. losing money) and had put in an offer of £175k for a house that was worth £175k but the owner wanted £190k - you'd pay the £190k since "you were losing money" ? |
if i could change the name of the house for so many thousands pound a year YES
if i could hold events in that house and all the profits go to me (club) YES
if it meant i owned the whole house and do what i needed to for it to be profitable in the long run and any profit made went to me(club) FCUKING DAMM RIGHT | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:06 - Jun 19 with 5845 views | Dale23years |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 11:59 - Jun 19 by SuddenLad |
You obviously have no idea about the situation, the complex negotiations necessary and the previous information published by RAFC and RMBC.
Take the time to inform yourself about what's already been reported and then think again. |
what information must of missed that information | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:20 - Jun 19 with 5799 views | 1mark1 |
The price for all the shares from all parties has been agreed from my understanding. As has been stated above, it is the debt owed to RMBC to my understanding that is the hold up, and whether or not RMBC are willing to come up with the demands of the council for the repayment of OUR/ council tax money. [Post edited 19 Jun 2015 12:21]
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:38 - Jun 19 with 5742 views | D_Alien |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:03 - Jun 19 by Dale23years |
if i could change the name of the house for so many thousands pound a year YES
if i could hold events in that house and all the profits go to me (club) YES
if it meant i owned the whole house and do what i needed to for it to be profitable in the long run and any profit made went to me(club) FCUKING DAMM RIGHT |
That this response has had the thumbs up from Parkins Gimp tells us all we need to know
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:56 - Jun 19 with 5680 views | dingdangblue |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:20 - Jun 19 by 1mark1 |
The price for all the shares from all parties has been agreed from my understanding. As has been stated above, it is the debt owed to RMBC to my understanding that is the hold up, and whether or not RMBC are willing to come up with the demands of the council for the repayment of OUR/ council tax money. [Post edited 19 Jun 2015 12:21]
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Id imagine the Council have wasted a lot of our council tax money down the years on things we never get to hear about. At least the money they contributed towards our stadium is something worthwhile and benefits the town and local community. | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 13:09 - Jun 19 with 5637 views | daledaledale |
The thing that worries me the most. Is the longer it drags on the more state of disrepair the ground becomes. No one seems to want to spend any money on the ground fixing the roof or repairing seats until the saga ends.
Meanwhile the club can't make extra money through a sponsorship deal on the ground. Or through other ways. | | | |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 14:12 - Jun 19 with 5536 views | R_AFC |
Can someone point out the complications regrading the stadium takeover ? or is this a secret to the public? |  |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 14:16 - Jun 19 with 5526 views | dingdangblue |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 14:12 - Jun 19 by R_AFC |
Can someone point out the complications regrading the stadium takeover ? or is this a secret to the public? |
Have you not read this thread? | |
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| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 14:51 - Jun 19 with 5459 views | 1mark1 |
| Are we ever going to own our ground? on 12:56 - Jun 19 by dingdangblue |
Id imagine the Council have wasted a lot of our council tax money down the years on things we never get to hear about. At least the money they contributed towards our stadium is something worthwhile and benefits the town and local community. |
Indeed they have over the years, but they obviously think that they have to get the best deal for the tax payer now unlike over the years when administrations of all political colours have wasted money.
I am not a Labour supporter, so I am not supporting or opposing the council either way, just stating the facts regarding the hold up on the transfer of the ownership of the ground.
As a Dale fan I want us to own the ground out right, but as a council tax payer I don't see why a professional club should get what would in effect be a tax break, especially when really important critical services are struggling, IF the Council did not get all the money still owed to it. [Post edited 19 Jun 2015 14:54]
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