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Reply | Smyth’s smash and grab stuns City – Report
at 18:47 16 Dec 2024
Cheers Clive as ever . Fair report on what was a terrible team display .
I made Varane man of the match after the game but looking at his passing stats I’m not sure I can . It also means that someone behind him is getting him and the players around him with similar or worse stats , out of the sh+t on a regular basis , so happy to concede Morrison as man of the match . I genuinely think JCS is going to struggle to get back in the side . How do you drop him?
Credit where credit is due to the recruitment team ( which sticks in my craw) on Morrison.
He’ll be sold on for more, injuries pending, and that is surely the model to be following . |
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Reply | Russell Martin
at 20:04 15 Dec 2024
This ‘style’ has run its course as far as I can see . It’s actually making English football boring .
City for example , got what they deserved this afternoon . They were so poor and almost refused to play forward . Teams like Southampton, and nearly every football team in Britain , including us , want to play five a side keep ball and just won’t play forward quickly. Like it’s better to keep the ball in our own half rather than go direct .
When we looked ok earlier in the season was when we went direct to Frey.
Maybe dare I say it but when Pep quits, hopefully teams will stop trying to copy this nonsense and start playing more direct .Pep had huge success and did so much for the game but the need for lemons like Russell Martin have grown obsessed with possession almost more than goals. City are proving that teams have the answer to this style of play now .
I realise this is a bit of a sweeping statement but hopefully this possession for possessions sake will die out a little and the excitement will return to English football as at the moment it’s pretty bloody dull. |
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Reply | Gary O Neil
at 12:36 15 Dec 2024
Agree , but I think the last minute goal done him anyway |
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Reply | Ashby
at 12:35 15 Dec 2024
Strange thread which at times has got oddly aggressive and bitchy.
It’s just opinions and just because they differ doesn’t people should f*ck off or that we are all blaming everything on Harrison Ashby . Some strange responses really.
I think playing out of position does make a difference to a players performance (see Larkeche v Blackburn last season) . Body shape, receiving the ball , distributing the ball are all impacted . He has a lack of experience too and in the cold light of day maybe we should be taking this into consideration. One other thing is that on the right , Smyth stays wide and is always available to receive the ball . On the left Saito drifts in time after time so often , not always , but often when Ashby gets the ball he looks up to see no one in front of him so his limited options and already uncomfortable…he loses possession.
However , playing out of position affects players less the more talented they are , so of course we have to question Ashby’s ability . He gave the ball away so often and even defensively yesterday he was starting to get pulled over the place in the second half . He looked shattered but that’s no excuse . His performance was very very poor.
And that’s just how I see it as a fan. Not viewing him as inexperienced or out of position…just as the eye sees it. He was shocking .
That’s not me ‘jumping’ on him. Just a fans view.
Being critical of players is a fans perogative if they are not up to standard as long as it’s not personal .
Do I think Paal is the answer? No.
Been critical of him since pretty much when he joined and not really changed my opinion. He’s not good enough. Gets targeted and not great on one on ones and clearly has his nose put out of joint which is understandable.
But when he came on yesterday you could see the difference it made in the simple matter of someone willing and able to use their left foot . We could finally play on the left (Chair staying more left than Saito may have helped that too).
As far as the recruitment goes, we all know and see the issues at striker and left back most prominently . It’s negligent to be in the position we have been in recently . Scandalous really.
But we have all said that.
What happens on the pitch is immediate and happening in front of our eyes so that’s what we will comment on in the here and now.
The thread was about Ashby being poor and he was. As I said I think he actually has a lot going for him and will be a decent championship player . But probably no more. In that respect he reminds me a bit of Laird. Looks good at times ….but maybe mollycoddled by a bigger club who have actually not done anything for his career.
Anyway I’ll shut the hell up now .
I just think there is a middle ground once again to be had. [Post edited 15 Dec 12:38]
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Reply | Twine Free Kick
at 12:07 15 Dec 2024
If you look at umpteen other posts I’ve made in the last 24 hours , I’ve said over and over about how bad we were . I actually used the word embarrassing, which I thought our ball retention was .
That’s why the City fans booed at the end because I don’t think they could believe how bad we were.
The ref’s display is a separate point being made and has no correlation between the 2 .
Also had nothing to do with last week either. The ref didn’t give the offsides so I have no idea what point you are making really. |
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Reply | Varanne
at 18:25 14 Dec 2024
I think we might see 3 or 4 moved out on loan (if possible) in the window which might see us able to bring someone in on loan . A striker and a left back preferably .
Santos and EDB now not fancied at all at the moment so they might be looking to offload them plus other youngsters and possibly even Colback although that’s unlikely admittedly |
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Reply | Twine Free Kick
at 17:55 14 Dec 2024
I thought the ref had a shocker . Gave 2 decisions in the first 5 minutes in front of the dug outs, a foul on Dunne which he incredibly gave against Jimmy even though the guy took a run at him and throw to City after their defender had cleared, which set the tone for the rest of the game . Complete homer |
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Reply | Ashby
at 17:52 14 Dec 2024
Yes I thought he was dreadful.
Has a lot going for him, but he simply has no left foot which leads to all sorts of issues. In the 15 mins before he went off he defended abysmally too . I think maybe he was just exhausted .
I hope come January he goes back to being Jimmy’s cover (Santos now out of the squad completely ) and we get a left back in to support Paal or preferably play . |
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Reply | Twine Free Kick
at 17:44 14 Dec 2024
It really DOES matter where the ball is positioned , if the ref has already marked where the wall should be . Moving the ball back a couple of feet gives you so much more scope to get it up and down again . These tiny things make the difference sometimes .
Cook did remonstrate and was ignored. With that he should have bought the wall 2 feet forward anyway which I’m sure the ref would not have allowed , stalling the game so more players can point to the fact they had moved the ball well away from its mark . |
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Reply | QPR v Bristol City match thread
at 14:31 14 Dec 2024
My gosh . Astonished at how bad we were but I’ll take a point after playing that badly .
We look shattered didn’t we. Lloyd got us up the pitch so fair play to him.
Ashby and Andersen were as bad as I can remember. Immediately we looked better with Paal in there simply because he can use his left foot.
Varane my man of the match today . Covered every blade of grass to protect our goal and actually a lovely pass for Smyth for the goal .
another welcome point but we can’t keep playing as bad as that.
A weeks rest will do us good |
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Reply | QPR v Bristol City match thread
at 13:50 14 Dec 2024
How can he move the ball back but we can’t move the wall the same distance forward?
That’s a disgrace . Much like us this afternoon |
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Reply | QPR v Bristol City match thread
at 13:23 14 Dec 2024
0-0 but f*ck me we’ve stunk the place out .
A bit embarrassing if I’m honest. What in gods name has happened to Andersen?
Saito and Smyth almost as bad . Kolli just inexperienced away from home and it shows msssively .
We can’t play anything close to that bad again in the second half and expect a point. |
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Reply | Last night’s ref
at 09:17 12 Dec 2024
Where on earth did he get 9 mins from? |
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Reply | QPR v Oxfoooooord match thread
at 00:43 12 Dec 2024
Absolutely chuffed with the win . Especially as the whole place seemed flat , players and fans on both sides which lead to the worst half of football I think I’ve seen in many a year .
I can’t remember ever , in my near 50 years of going to Rangers , the crowd cheer the blowing of the half time whistle 🤣🤣🤣.
It really made me laugh but the performance was diabolical . However I thought we were more on the front foot in second half which showed and was the difference in the end .
Oxford are weird. They were neat and tidy at times and if they had a pair of b*llocks between them then they could have taken us to the cleaners but they got themselves in good positions then stopped. I’ve never seen a team more intent on going backwards when it’s easier to go towards the oppositions goal.
Thought Kolli did ok considering he’s been unwell today and the centre backs were decent . Good goals from Field and Varane slowly growing into this division.
But the game was a total dog with fleas in a league, I’m starting to think, is of a pretty poor standard this season.
Still, keep the clean sheets coming and we’ll be ok. I’d have laughed if you’d said that to me 3 weeks ago. [Post edited 12 Dec 0:54]
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