| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? 09:44 - Jun 12 with 9204 views | HulaHoop |
I thought I was pretty much there, but only found out last night that the 'purpose' of the two marked "D" on a football pitch, was to keep every other player a maximum distance (10yards I think) from the ball during a penalty kick...
Nice to learn something new about the beautiful game, anyone got any other not so obvious rules you'd like to share??? |  | | |  |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:25 - Jun 12 with 1282 views | W7Ranger |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 15:40 - Jun 12 by loftboy |
But Adel wasn't nearer the goal line than the ball when it was played so not off side, the best example would be a cross played backwards acroos the boss and a player who was forward of the crosser has his back to goal and executes an overhead kick, he would be off side as he was nearer the goal line than the ball when it was played. |
I think it's more to do with being behind the passer of the ball than the actual ball itself. Although in both instances you would obviously be onside.
Mackie was probably a yard from the goal line and Adel was maybe 3 or 4 yards from the goal line, so Mackie rolls it virtually square (maybe slightly backwards) into the path of Adel who runs on to it and scores.
I don't think the scenario of a player crossing backwards to a player further forward of the crosser, who would then move backwards himself to score would ever actually occur though. Because the forward who was waiting for the cross would know he's in an offside position (as would the crosser of the ball) so I can't see that would happen personally.
Where some people get confused is if 2 players are thru on goal against the keeper. The forward with the ball reaches the "D" of the area, with the supporting forward running slightly behind him and to the side of him. As the keeper comes out, the forward with the ball rolls it forward diagonally into the direction/path of where the supporting player is, who then runs onto it and scores. No other defenders in sight, but still onside as the receiver of the ball was behind the passer of the ball at the time the pass was made. |  | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:35 - Jun 12 with 1273 views | andygg |
Is a player allowed to sit on another players shoulders, to get to a header? (like in Rugby line-outs.) |  | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:40 - Jun 12 with 1262 views | stowmarketrange |
Is it illegal for an outfield player to wear gloves which would help to grip the ball for throw-ins?
At least it would do away with the stupid towels.
Also I've asked this question on various occasions.Do the rest of the world use imperial measurements on a football field?
At free-kicks does the wall have to be 10 yards away,or 9.140768244972m?
Is it a 6 yard box in Argentina or a 5.48m box?
Is a penalty taken from 12 yards or 10.96m?
Why does the world have to rely on measures that they would never use in any other form?I'm suprised Platini hasn't tried to change it to the good old French metre.
Help please. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:40 - Jun 12 with 1261 views | W7Ranger |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:35 - Jun 12 by andygg |
Is a player allowed to sit on another players shoulders, to get to a header? (like in Rugby line-outs.) |
Or more realistically, put your hands on your team mates shoulders as your jumping up to head a ball. It's not a foul on an opponent, so why not? Never seen it done, but would be interesting to see what would happen if it was done. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:46 - Jun 12 with 1251 views | Metallica_Hoop |
My life was a lot easier when I could pick up backpasses. Now I have to run all over the shop 
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| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:52 - Jun 12 with 1240 views | stowmarketrange |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:40 - Jun 12 by W7Ranger |
Or more realistically, put your hands on your team mates shoulders as your jumping up to head a ball. It's not a foul on an opponent, so why not? Never seen it done, but would be interesting to see what would happen if it was done. |
I thought it was ungentlemanly conduct,same as if you fouled one of your teammates,like Dyer and Bowyer for Newcastle. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:57 - Jun 12 with 1234 views | W7Ranger |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:52 - Jun 12 by stowmarketrange |
I thought it was ungentlemanly conduct,same as if you fouled one of your teammates,like Dyer and Bowyer for Newcastle. |
Does knocking 7 bells of shyte out of each other count as ungentlemanly conduct then???  | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:27 - Jun 12 with 1220 views | W7Ranger |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 15:30 - Jun 12 by QPR1882 |
Don't go there,not even the guy who wrote the not interfering with play rule does not understands it.
A bit like the Duckworth—Lewis method in cricket. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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It's a fairly straight forward rule to understand. Some fans don't understand it though.
If you look at Croatia's 2nd goal against Ireland. There was a Croatian player further forward than the last defender when the ball was first played forward, but it wasn't played in his direction and it subsequently went to an irish player, who then sliced his clearance straight into the path of the Croat who was still behind the last Irish defender, so he was onside.
Now some fans may disagree with that, but with the rules as they are today, it was the correct decision,
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| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:38 - Jun 12 with 1217 views | QPR_ARG |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 10:15 - Jun 12 by antoknee64 |
I was alaways under the impression that if the ball crossed the line (between the goal-posts) it was a goal  .
Lol,has anybody seen the Yanky ref`s with the can of White spray attached to their waste,for the purpose of marking 10 yard`s at freekicks?. |
Yankee refs? That's an Argentine invention. And it will soon be all over the world as it has been approved by the international board.
It looks ridiculous at first, but it proved to be very effective. Distance is kept. It's been used in Argentina for at least 2 or 3 seasons.
Time for the rest of the world to catch up with our modern inventions!  |  | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:41 - Jun 12 with 1215 views | QPR1882 |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:27 - Jun 12 by W7Ranger |
It's a fairly straight forward rule to understand. Some fans don't understand it though.
If you look at Croatia's 2nd goal against Ireland. There was a Croatian player further forward than the last defender when the ball was first played forward, but it wasn't played in his direction and it subsequently went to an irish player, who then sliced his clearance straight into the path of the Croat who was still behind the last Irish defender, so he was onside.
Now some fans may disagree with that, but with the rules as they are today, it was the correct decision,
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Trouble is it is not straight forward.
1st phase,2nd phase bolloxs
It's not only fans that don't understand it....Players,Managers,Commentators,Pundits,Refs and Linos don't understand it either. |  | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:53 - Jun 12 with 1211 views | W7Ranger |
Good point, but I'm would think is because it's more in the direction of the goal and the player scoring from the rebound being directly involved with play. I'm not sure on that one though so you make a fair point there. So maybe the Croatian should've been given offside because had the initial pass actually been a shot on goal and Given had saved it and the Croat furthest forward knocked in the rebound, then I expect he would've been given offside. I can only assume it was because the direction of the "pass" forward wasn't in the general direction of the Croatian player, so therefore wasn't considered "active"?
This is why I was amazed when Daniel Sturridge's goal against us at Stamford Bridge was given, as Lampard had to duck out of the way as it flew in and was clearly running across Kenny's line of vision at the time. In my opinion, that should've been disallowed as he was clearly interfering with play, or "active". Because had Kenny blocked that shot and Lampard scored from the rebound, I'm 100% convinced he would've been offside.
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| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:59 - Jun 12 with 1205 views | W7Ranger |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:41 - Jun 12 by QPR1882 |
Trouble is it is not straight forward.
1st phase,2nd phase bolloxs
It's not only fans that don't understand it....Players,Managers,Commentators,Pundits,Refs and Linos don't understand it either. |
I think you're exaggerating a tad there fella. A straight forward example is the Bolton first goal. In the build up to the goal, the scorer was standing in an "offside position" but was not "active" in the play at the time. But when the ball is eventually crossed in to the forward, he's clearly in an onside position and therefore a goal is given. Correct decision. No appeals from the players or the Management. It wasn't queried or questioned by the commentators or debated by the pundits.
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| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:17 - Jun 12 with 1186 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 13:59 - Jun 12 by AlbRanger |
That's what i thought:
Low to the ground = Close to the lino (ass ref  )
Level = towards the centre of the pitch
Raised = far side of pitch
Or have I been doing it wrong for years?? |
You're right Alb |  | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:18 - Jun 12 with 1185 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 14:17 - Jun 12 by loftboy |
There is no such thing as injury time or added on time, when there is an unnatural stoppage the referee stops his watch so he only ever plays 45 minutes each half. ATAF |
Not true, most refs I know estimate the time to be added on. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:20 - Jun 12 with 1184 views | W7Ranger |
I completely agree and yes I'm sure he would be too.
Maybe it was because it was a pass towards a different player than the one who was in an offside position? So therefore once the Ireland Player touches it, he's no longer offside? The "offside" player was to the left of the Box, the pass was made towards the right of the box, then sliced into the path of the Croatian by the Irish defender.
But a shot on goal is more direct and so the offside player is gaining an advantage and directly involved with play when the shot comes in and he then knocks in the rebound.
That's how I'm seeing it anyway. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:21 - Jun 12 with 1181 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 15:19 - Jun 12 by QPR1882 |
i know there are exceptions i was talking about the 99% of why offsides are given. Some people do not know there has to be 2 players ( 1 usually being the goalkeeper ) between you and the goal. |
True 1882 - if GK leaves his line and you only have 1 player between you and goal line then you're offside (all other conditions being met of course!) | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:23 - Jun 12 with 1178 views | QPR1882 |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 17:59 - Jun 12 by W7Ranger |
I think you're exaggerating a tad there fella. A straight forward example is the Bolton first goal. In the build up to the goal, the scorer was standing in an "offside position" but was not "active" in the play at the time. But when the ball is eventually crossed in to the forward, he's clearly in an onside position and therefore a goal is given. Correct decision. No appeals from the players or the Management. It wasn't queried or questioned by the commentators or debated by the pundits.
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Not going to disagree re Boltons goal. Just watch motd or the football league show and every single week you will have a discussion re a goal that is offside/onside.
I will stand by what i said the rule is not black and white therefore is open to interpretation by the match day officials,and because of this different officials will give different calls to the same situation. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:24 - Jun 12 with 1176 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:25 - Jun 12 by W7Ranger |
I think it's more to do with being behind the passer of the ball than the actual ball itself. Although in both instances you would obviously be onside.
Mackie was probably a yard from the goal line and Adel was maybe 3 or 4 yards from the goal line, so Mackie rolls it virtually square (maybe slightly backwards) into the path of Adel who runs on to it and scores.
I don't think the scenario of a player crossing backwards to a player further forward of the crosser, who would then move backwards himself to score would ever actually occur though. Because the forward who was waiting for the cross would know he's in an offside position (as would the crosser of the ball) so I can't see that would happen personally.
Where some people get confused is if 2 players are thru on goal against the keeper. The forward with the ball reaches the "D" of the area, with the supporting forward running slightly behind him and to the side of him. As the keeper comes out, the forward with the ball rolls it forward diagonally into the direction/path of where the supporting player is, who then runs onto it and scores. No other defenders in sight, but still onside as the receiver of the ball was behind the passer of the ball at the time the pass was made. |
Its the ball, nothing to do with the passer - although they're obviously pretty close to each other | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:25 - Jun 12 with 1173 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:35 - Jun 12 by andygg |
Is a player allowed to sit on another players shoulders, to get to a header? (like in Rugby line-outs.) |
No - that would be a caution for USB | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:25 - Jun 12 with 1173 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:35 - Jun 12 by andygg |
Is a player allowed to sit on another players shoulders, to get to a header? (like in Rugby line-outs.) |
No - that would be a caution for USB | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:25 - Jun 12 with 1173 views | W7Ranger |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:24 - Jun 12 by PinnerPaul |
Its the ball, nothing to do with the passer - although they're obviously pretty close to each other |
Well, exactly....the ball won't pass itself!!!
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| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:28 - Jun 12 with 1169 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:40 - Jun 12 by stowmarketrange |
Is it illegal for an outfield player to wear gloves which would help to grip the ball for throw-ins?
At least it would do away with the stupid towels.
Also I've asked this question on various occasions.Do the rest of the world use imperial measurements on a football field?
At free-kicks does the wall have to be 10 yards away,or 9.140768244972m?
Is it a 6 yard box in Argentina or a 5.48m box?
Is a penalty taken from 12 yards or 10.96m?
Why does the world have to rely on measures that they would never use in any other form?I'm suprised Platini hasn't tried to change it to the good old French metre.
Help please. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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No, if they had "grips" that were obviously help the thrower or it was August, it could be deemed USB.
Imperial and metric are both quoted in the official Laws of the Game. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:29 - Jun 12 with 1377 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:40 - Jun 12 by W7Ranger |
Or more realistically, put your hands on your team mates shoulders as your jumping up to head a ball. It's not a foul on an opponent, so why not? Never seen it done, but would be interesting to see what would happen if it was done. |
The catch all "Unsporting behaviour" would allow ref to award a free kick and caution. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:31 - Jun 12 with 1377 views | PinnerPaul |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 16:57 - Jun 12 by W7Ranger |
Does knocking 7 bells of shyte out of each other count as ungentlemanly conduct then??? |
Its violent conduct, which doesn't have to be against an opponent. | | | |
| Think you know everything about the rules of football?? on 18:37 - Jun 12 with 1374 views | PinnerPaul |
Offside - its the pundits that have made it complicated.
We've discussed and know now where is offside BUT a player is only penalised if he is active and the ball has been last played by a team mate.
Active (As defined by the laws) is
1) Touches the ball
2) Interferes with an opponent - this means tackles an opponent or very close to GK for example
3) Gains an advantage (and that means playing the ball after it has rebounded to him off an opponent or goal)
Easy!
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