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3rd runway at heathrow 14:41 - Jan 29 with 4801 viewsloftboy

But don’t panic, the £12.50 ULEZ charge I pay every home game will negate it.

favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
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3rd runway at heathrow on 14:51 - Jan 29 with 2248 viewsdmm

Yet another act of utter hypocrisy by Starmer. He backed the action against the 3rd runway 4 or 5 years ago saying climate change was the priority. What an absolute charlatan he's turned out to be.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 14:53 - Jan 29 with 2241 viewsTheChef

Another day, another decision by the government made to wind up everyone.

Must get boring but it does seem to work every time.

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3rd runway at heathrow on 14:56 - Jan 29 with 2226 viewscolinallcars

3rd runway at heathrow on 14:51 - Jan 29 by dmm

Yet another act of utter hypocrisy by Starmer. He backed the action against the 3rd runway 4 or 5 years ago saying climate change was the priority. What an absolute charlatan he's turned out to be.


He's been a huge disappointment to me too.
That said he's only been in for what, 4-5 months but I'm not optimistic.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 14:57 - Jan 29 with 2219 viewsJuzzie

"Pollution won't be a problem" we're told "Planes are more fuel efficient and cleaner"

Yeah, but the increase in vehicle traffic around Heathrow will be a problem and the M4/M25 junction is a nightmare as it is.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 14:58 - Jan 29 with 2206 viewsJuzzie

3rd runway at heathrow on 14:51 - Jan 29 by dmm

Yet another act of utter hypocrisy by Starmer. He backed the action against the 3rd runway 4 or 5 years ago saying climate change was the priority. What an absolute charlatan he's turned out to be.


Boris was infamous for his u-turns too. They all do it, left or right. Can't stand the lot of them.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 15:01 - Jan 29 with 2181 viewsTheChef

The reptilians who actually rule us feed off negative energy, and this is how they achieve it.

That and supporting QPR.


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3rd runway at heathrow on 15:04 - Jan 29 with 2139 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

What a complete lack of imagination from the government. Just rehashing old Tory policies that they fought against in the first place.
It will never get built anyway due to the cost etc. Useless the lot of them.

So when do we all think Rachel from accounts will get sacked? Zero credibility. I'm going for before the Autmn budget.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 15:07 - Jan 29 with 2117 viewsGaryHaddock

Sadiq, for all his faults, is against it so a schism there.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 15:39 - Jan 29 with 1929 viewsderbyhoop

Amen. Runway 3 will not get built in my lifetime, let alone the terms of a Starner Govt.

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3rd runway at heathrow on 15:54 - Jan 29 with 1842 viewsGloucs_R

3rd runway at heathrow on 15:39 - Jan 29 by derbyhoop

Amen. Runway 3 will not get built in my lifetime, let alone the terms of a Starner Govt.


I'll jump on HS2 from Manchester to catch a plane using the 3rd runway at LHR.

Oh, hold on.....

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3rd runway at heathrow on 15:58 - Jan 29 with 1813 viewsRangersDave

where the hell are they going to find 3908 metres length and 50 metres wide, plus the open end extensions to either end, plus the taxi ways between the extsting runway and the new one?

Plus they are going to demolish 750 houses to do this.

I cannot see it viable unless they drain the reservoirs, re direct the M25, and build over it!

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:10 - Jan 29 with 1751 views1BobbyHazell

3rd runway at heathrow on 15:58 - Jan 29 by RangersDave

where the hell are they going to find 3908 metres length and 50 metres wide, plus the open end extensions to either end, plus the taxi ways between the extsting runway and the new one?

Plus they are going to demolish 750 houses to do this.

I cannot see it viable unless they drain the reservoirs, re direct the M25, and build over it!


Are people genuinely surprised by this!? I mean, really?

Fair enough if your some innocent, optimistic fresh faced 20 something still to learn how politics really is.

But for me no excuses for anyone who's been around a while and really thought a PM who was already a Sir and only joined Parliament in 2015 wasn't being shoehorned in by the established Power Base.

Everything and I mean EVERYTHING about him has always screamed Blair 2.0.

Edit - not aimed at you Rangersdave. Used quote button by mistake!
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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:17 - Jan 29 with 1704 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Somewhat apt that this government should perform a U-turn bigger than a jumbo jet.

Talking of U-turns, Mandelson now kissing major butt to land the role of US ambassador:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyek73ly70o

Nothing surprises me anymore with politics, whatever your persuasion.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:18 - Jan 29 with 1697 viewsHayesender

3rd runway at heathrow on 14:58 - Jan 29 by Juzzie

Boris was infamous for his u-turns too. They all do it, left or right. Can't stand the lot of them.


As someone far brighter than me once said, left wing or right wing is all part of the same bird

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:18 - Jan 29 with 1698 viewsR_from_afar

3rd runway at heathrow on 14:57 - Jan 29 by Juzzie

"Pollution won't be a problem" we're told "Planes are more fuel efficient and cleaner"

Yeah, but the increase in vehicle traffic around Heathrow will be a problem and the M4/M25 junction is a nightmare as it is.


"Pollution won't be a problem" we're told "Planes are more fuel efficient and cleaner".

sophistry
ˈsɒfɪstri
noun
the use of clever but false arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving.
trying to argue that I had benefited in any way from the disaster was pure sophistry
a fallacious argument.

That could've been written by Willie Walsh.

Yes, it is true that planes are getting more efficient and are producing less CO2 but we are decades away from the aviation industry being decarbonised.


"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:18 - Jan 29 with 1683 viewsJuzzie

3rd runway at heathrow on 15:58 - Jan 29 by RangersDave

where the hell are they going to find 3908 metres length and 50 metres wide, plus the open end extensions to either end, plus the taxi ways between the extsting runway and the new one?

Plus they are going to demolish 750 houses to do this.

I cannot see it viable unless they drain the reservoirs, re direct the M25, and build over it!


That's exactly the plan... to build over the M25! It'll be north of the airport so won't affect the reservoirs.

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:23 - Jan 29 with 1624 viewsRsole

3rd runway at heathrow on 15:58 - Jan 29 by RangersDave

where the hell are they going to find 3908 metres length and 50 metres wide, plus the open end extensions to either end, plus the taxi ways between the extsting runway and the new one?

Plus they are going to demolish 750 houses to do this.

I cannot see it viable unless they drain the reservoirs, re direct the M25, and build over it!


I’ve seen the plans and it is clearly mapped directly onto BusStop Stadium (TM).

Should keep everyone happy.

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:23 - Jan 29 with 1623 viewsnick_hammersmith

3rd runway at heathrow on 14:51 - Jan 29 by dmm

Yet another act of utter hypocrisy by Starmer. He backed the action against the 3rd runway 4 or 5 years ago saying climate change was the priority. What an absolute charlatan he's turned out to be.


This was approved in '21 under the last government.
The only "news" is that this government are not going to try and stop the 3rd runway being built
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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:30 - Jan 29 with 1573 viewsBoston

Plane stop in Hillingdon
You're just a plane stop in Hillingdon...
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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:31 - Jan 29 with 1568 viewsR_from_afar

3rd runway at heathrow on 16:18 - Jan 29 by Juzzie

That's exactly the plan... to build over the M25! It'll be north of the airport so won't affect the reservoirs.

[Post edited 29 Jan 16:59]


Couldn't we be green and repurpose the Olympic Games lane of the M4 instead?

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:38 - Jan 29 with 1531 viewsBoston

3rd runway at heathrow on 16:31 - Jan 29 by R_from_afar

Couldn't we be green and repurpose the Olympic Games lane of the M4 instead?


Why doesn't Heathrow dig down?

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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:42 - Jan 29 with 1513 viewsswisscottage

Air traffic pollution or climate change is not a valid argument against a 3rd runway.

By the time it is finally built which will be 10 years minimum, the odds will be that Airliners with Electric or at least Hybrid Jet Engines will have entered production. And with a more realistic timeline of 15+ years, that will be even more likely.

And to be fair to those about turning from their position 4 or 5 years ago based on climate change, the actuality of electric Jet Engines was a lot further away. And that's about the first time I've ever said anything vaguely in support of Starmer.
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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:50 - Jan 29 with 1478 viewsPaddyhoops

3rd runway at heathrow on 14:51 - Jan 29 by dmm

Yet another act of utter hypocrisy by Starmer. He backed the action against the 3rd runway 4 or 5 years ago saying climate change was the priority. What an absolute charlatan he's turned out to be.


I think parties of all colours are hypocrites.
Look at how Lammy and Mandelson have changed their tune about Trump .
At least the other lot are Trump arse lickers and up front about it.
Pathetic . The lot of them .
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3rd runway at heathrow on 16:57 - Jan 29 with 1439 viewscolinallcars

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3rd runway at heathrow on 17:13 - Jan 29 with 1368 viewsdaveB

3rd runway at heathrow on 16:50 - Jan 29 by Paddyhoops

I think parties of all colours are hypocrites.
Look at how Lammy and Mandelson have changed their tune about Trump .
At least the other lot are Trump arse lickers and up front about it.
Pathetic . The lot of them .


6 months ago was worst govertment in my lifetime and worst opposition, they've just switched roles now

Labour have been so disapointing and have opened the door to Farage being the next PM

The left are an absolute shambles these days, that should be where my political views go but they have left working people behind and I'm not sure what they stand for anymore.
At least with Trump he does what mad shit he said he was going to do rather than get in power and do something different, people who voted for him are getting what they voted for. You can't say that with our lot
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