| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:09 - Jan 19 with 2880 views | pembsjack |
I will be shocked if they don't act soon. They are watching their new investment falling to pieces in front of their eyes. Attendances falling, I'd imagine the same will happen on season ticket sales. They need to pull something out of the bag to bring the feel good factor and enjoyment back. |  | |  |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:15 - Jan 19 with 2850 views | onehunglow |
Very disturbing article but worth studying in depth .
I have and I’m full of woe ,frankly.
Tuesday could see the lowest home gate if the season as folk are being driven away in their drives .it really is about winning games and of feeling good .
Sport is about winning ,dreams and a little glory | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:28 - Jan 19 with 2773 views | Chippy69 |
If they have any sense he;d put is foot up is back door this morning |  |
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For saving us from hell
And then they put us through it
It's time the bastards fell
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:35 - Jan 19 with 2716 views | swan65split |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:09 - Jan 19 by pembsjack |
I will be shocked if they don't act soon. They are watching their new investment falling to pieces in front of their eyes. Attendances falling, I'd imagine the same will happen on season ticket sales. They need to pull something out of the bag to bring the feel good factor and enjoyment back. |
Movement sooni imagine , 2 tough games this week, its going to determine our season me thinks |  | | |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:37 - Jan 19 with 2703 views | sons_of_omri |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:09 - Jan 19 by pembsjack |
I will be shocked if they don't act soon. They are watching their new investment falling to pieces in front of their eyes. Attendances falling, I'd imagine the same will happen on season ticket sales. They need to pull something out of the bag to bring the feel good factor and enjoyment back. |
When I found out that the main money man from the U.S. was a swans nut it naturally followed that Williams didn’t have any cover for failure. These people want the team to succeed and with him as manager there is absolutely no hope with that.
I’d be surprised if they played chicken with him to avoid paying out his contract - that would be cutting off our nose to spite our face and for how much money? It can’t be a huge amount, certainly the prospect of relegation would be far more costly.
The trick is to get someone in who isn’t going to need paying out ie a good manager not a hit and hope on someone from the lower leagues with a good power point presentation. | | | |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:48 - Jan 19 with 2621 views | onehunglow |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:35 - Jan 19 by swan65split |
Movement sooni imagine , 2 tough games this week, its going to determine our season me thinks |
It needs sorting now | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 10:04 - Jan 19 with 2528 views | johnlangy |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:48 - Jan 19 by onehunglow |
It needs sorting now |
In the last six league games we've had the Hull, Portsmouth and Cardiff performances. Three utterly shameful efforts.
Every team has some bad games. Every team has some terrible games. There are always games where you say that's the worst performance of the season. You don't have three of those in six games. It's down to the manager to fix that and he seems to be incapable.
How much will it really cost to get rid ? His salary (and the others) would not be enormous in his first job at Champ level. Certainly a fraction of the amount of their investment. | | | |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 10:14 - Jan 19 with 2468 views | onehunglow |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 10:04 - Jan 19 by johnlangy |
In the last six league games we've had the Hull, Portsmouth and Cardiff performances. Three utterly shameful efforts.
Every team has some bad games. Every team has some terrible games. There are always games where you say that's the worst performance of the season. You don't have three of those in six games. It's down to the manager to fix that and he seems to be incapable.
How much will it really cost to get rid ? His salary (and the others) would not be enormous in his first job at Champ level. Certainly a fraction of the amount of their investment. |
Mornin
I am repeating myself ,ok but it is more damaging and more expensive to not sack him.
Martin caused us damage . This chap has upped it several notches .
I really don’t think Duff was as bad. He’s doing fine at Huddersfield .
We are obsessed with possession for possession sake and it’s killing us .
As for hood ball,I’m afraid to burst bubbles of the know alls but folk really will watch this if it’s winning football as that is what sport is all about .
I simply see no joy at all in losing.
Good pros hate it
We don’t have good pros . They are not bothered at all. Look at them . Listen to them . Yiu can smell the contempt they have for our club and fans . And contempt it is because,for sure , no team plays like that in a derby game .
Yesterday ,we were shamed and are on our knees.
Now then,it’s all about how much we want to get up and fight .
Looking at Key,Tymon,MPH,Eom, we have the paradigm of the modern day ,pampered ,soft ,contemptuous footballer . I read they are tired and needed a rest . Really,I did. It is the fans who need a rest from this | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:05 - Jan 19 with 2179 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 10:14 - Jan 19 by onehunglow |
Mornin
I am repeating myself ,ok but it is more damaging and more expensive to not sack him.
Martin caused us damage . This chap has upped it several notches .
I really don’t think Duff was as bad. He’s doing fine at Huddersfield .
We are obsessed with possession for possession sake and it’s killing us .
As for hood ball,I’m afraid to burst bubbles of the know alls but folk really will watch this if it’s winning football as that is what sport is all about .
I simply see no joy at all in losing.
Good pros hate it
We don’t have good pros . They are not bothered at all. Look at them . Listen to them . Yiu can smell the contempt they have for our club and fans . And contempt it is because,for sure , no team plays like that in a derby game .
Yesterday ,we were shamed and are on our knees.
Now then,it’s all about how much we want to get up and fight .
Looking at Key,Tymon,MPH,Eom, we have the paradigm of the modern day ,pampered ,soft ,contemptuous footballer . I read they are tired and needed a rest . Really,I did. It is the fans who need a rest from this |
The passing game is now in the club DNA but is is now stale. The tempo is glacial Winning by passing has to be sharp and crisp and coordinated. Williams cannot coach it and his players cannot play it.
Swansea had slight players with balance vision and we're quicker than ths opponents. Now they are just weak. The kid Watts on the bench is a sharp footballer in the De Guzman mold. Stick Fulton in Laudrup's team would disturb the balance.
Cullen was anonymous again he is not a no 9 how many times does it gave to be said.
Hyper bole as usual from birthday boy. Happy returns [Post edited 19 Jan 11:10]
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:14 - Jan 19 with 2130 views | Luther27 |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:37 - Jan 19 by sons_of_omri |
When I found out that the main money man from the U.S. was a swans nut it naturally followed that Williams didn’t have any cover for failure. These people want the team to succeed and with him as manager there is absolutely no hope with that.
I’d be surprised if they played chicken with him to avoid paying out his contract - that would be cutting off our nose to spite our face and for how much money? It can’t be a huge amount, certainly the prospect of relegation would be far more costly.
The trick is to get someone in who isn’t going to need paying out ie a good manager not a hit and hope on someone from the lower leagues with a good power point presentation. |
Unfortunately due to the recent history of our owners I doubt any manager with decent experience won’t touch us with a barge pole….especially if they do due diligence. I really don’t know where we go next. | | | |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:16 - Jan 19 with 2126 views | magicdaps10 |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 09:09 - Jan 19 by pembsjack |
I will be shocked if they don't act soon. They are watching their new investment falling to pieces in front of their eyes. Attendances falling, I'd imagine the same will happen on season ticket sales. They need to pull something out of the bag to bring the feel good factor and enjoyment back. |
Sack the manager or bring In much needed players are the options to try and bring the feel good back.
Ultimately we could lose a manager and not strengthen, meaning slot of our funds goes on paying off and bringing in a manager....taking away from the desperate need to strengthen.
Logically I would look to strengthen and then re visit the managerial situation in the summer. I fear regardless of any improvement, if there is any, too many fans are digging their heels in on the situation. |  |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:34 - Jan 19 with 2039 views | Boundy |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:16 - Jan 19 by magicdaps10 |
Sack the manager or bring In much needed players are the options to try and bring the feel good back.
Ultimately we could lose a manager and not strengthen, meaning slot of our funds goes on paying off and bringing in a manager....taking away from the desperate need to strengthen.
Logically I would look to strengthen and then re visit the managerial situation in the summer. I fear regardless of any improvement, if there is any, too many fans are digging their heels in on the situation. |
The problem with not sacking the Manager if its true and I have no reason to think otherwise after watching the disgraceful recent performances ,that the players are not playing for him , moaning about training , taking team talks then to build a squad in his image is foolish, bite the bullet and sack him with in mind of giving Alan Sheehan ( obviously if he'd take it ) to get us through the rest of the season or until another more suited Manager is employed | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:14 - Jan 19 with 1919 views | max936 |
That's a very sombre read indeed and worrying. |  |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:14 - Jan 19 with 1914 views | union_jack |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:34 - Jan 19 by Boundy |
The problem with not sacking the Manager if its true and I have no reason to think otherwise after watching the disgraceful recent performances ,that the players are not playing for him , moaning about training , taking team talks then to build a squad in his image is foolish, bite the bullet and sack him with in mind of giving Alan Sheehan ( obviously if he'd take it ) to get us through the rest of the season or until another more suited Manager is employed |
This is the reply I had in mind when I read Daps’s post but you beat me to it.
I think the team have downed tools for the reasons mentioned of which LW is mostly responsible.
With him here provides a much greater chance of relegation than him not, even if we don’t strengthen in the next week or two. Sacking him I fervently believe will put a spring in our step.
There’s a lot of weighing up to be done by those far closer to this than we are that’s for sure. |  |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:23 - Jan 19 with 1870 views | max936 |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:34 - Jan 19 by Boundy |
The problem with not sacking the Manager if its true and I have no reason to think otherwise after watching the disgraceful recent performances ,that the players are not playing for him , moaning about training , taking team talks then to build a squad in his image is foolish, bite the bullet and sack him with in mind of giving Alan Sheehan ( obviously if he'd take it ) to get us through the rest of the season or until another more suited Manager is employed |
Sheehan is part of the coaching team, I honestly can't see him making a difference at this moment in time, we need a complete change in ethos with a manager with fresh idea's and confidence to brighten the up the players, it costs what it costs, it's to late when we're looking to start next season in League One, don't think that can't happen cause it certainly can, look back to our last few months in the premiership we had a lot of people with their heads in the sand and thinking we'll be fine and look what happened then ! | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:25 - Jan 19 with 1855 views | max936 |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:14 - Jan 19 by union_jack |
This is the reply I had in mind when I read Daps’s post but you beat me to it.
I think the team have downed tools for the reasons mentioned of which LW is mostly responsible.
With him here provides a much greater chance of relegation than him not, even if we don’t strengthen in the next week or two. Sacking him I fervently believe will put a spring in our step.
There’s a lot of weighing up to be done by those far closer to this than we are that’s for sure. |
Not a time for them to be dragging their heels Uni, Coleman needs to open his eyes and make a positive decision. | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:45 - Jan 19 with 1774 views | Boundy |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:25 - Jan 19 by max936 |
Not a time for them to be dragging their heels Uni, Coleman needs to open his eyes and make a positive decision. |
and it has to be a positive decision, I was rather hoping the old days and ways were behind us but a yet again we find ourselves scrambling in the dark both on and off the pitch.
Williams still has time to turn this season around but the question and decision should be based on do the Club and players want him to.
The previous incumbents of the Club have done far more damage than just weakening the squad and selling off the jewels without replacing but damaged our reputation in being a stable ship and one which is backed. | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:55 - Jan 19 with 1741 views | pete |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:25 - Jan 19 by max936 |
Not a time for them to be dragging their heels Uni, Coleman needs to open his eyes and make a positive decision. |
but Max thats part of the problem the new board look as if they are on the same street as the old board
CLEARLY there is a maior problem as the performances and lack of goals and points must show bt words are no good action both on and off the field is required and VERY quickly | | | |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 12:59 - Jan 19 with 1710 views | Whiterockin |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 11:16 - Jan 19 by magicdaps10 |
Sack the manager or bring In much needed players are the options to try and bring the feel good back.
Ultimately we could lose a manager and not strengthen, meaning slot of our funds goes on paying off and bringing in a manager....taking away from the desperate need to strengthen.
Logically I would look to strengthen and then re visit the managerial situation in the summer. I fear regardless of any improvement, if there is any, too many fans are digging their heels in on the situation. |
Williams has lost the players and lost the supporters in my opinion. Leave it until the summer and it will be very hard to turn it around. Even a couple of wins now won't bring the supporters back. None of the season ticket holders I know have renewed yet, some are holding out to see how the next 6 weeks go up until the early window closes, some are seriously considering not renewing. Once gone supporters are very hard to get back. Colman needs to back him or sack him now, preferably the latter. |  | | |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 13:22 - Jan 19 with 1621 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Many fans are bored watching this team. Possession without penetration. The team can only pass accurately uncontested.. Fiddling about in their own half. Passing must be accurate in the opponents half and that is not easy.
Swnsea were a dull as chip in the first half at 0-0. Cullen went back to being anonymous against two low mobility bruisers. Back to goal forward weak on the all is like shelling peas. No problem at all. Running at them with pace like Dan James used t do is a very different matter. Swnsea do not run anymore. I wonder what the stats say. If they do not run then they need super accurate passing. They just give the ball away. Crossing high balls to Cullen is a waste of time. Eom delivered a few.
Williams s tactics need auditing. | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 13:26 - Jan 19 with 1583 views | union_jack |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 13:22 - Jan 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Many fans are bored watching this team. Possession without penetration. The team can only pass accurately uncontested.. Fiddling about in their own half. Passing must be accurate in the opponents half and that is not easy.
Swnsea were a dull as chip in the first half at 0-0. Cullen went back to being anonymous against two low mobility bruisers. Back to goal forward weak on the all is like shelling peas. No problem at all. Running at them with pace like Dan James used t do is a very different matter. Swnsea do not run anymore. I wonder what the stats say. If they do not run then they need super accurate passing. They just give the ball away. Crossing high balls to Cullen is a waste of time. Eom delivered a few.
Williams s tactics need auditing. |
I’m watching the Leeds game and seeing Dan James run at players makes me weep. | |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 13:32 - Jan 19 with 1544 views | raynor94 |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 13:26 - Jan 19 by union_jack |
I’m watching the Leeds game and seeing Dan James run at players makes me weep. |
Solomon as well, what a difference to our wingers, a game played at a high tempo by both teams
They are light years ahead of our pass around the back, I do belive we need a new coach to get us out of the Martin /Williams way |  |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 14:03 - Jan 19 with 1422 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Anthony Wright to step up from the Academy to support Joe Allen ? . Go all in with the academy prospects. The u21 play a good style of football and I can see what Wright is tying to do.
They lose a few games but always by being out muscled not 'out footballed'. I watched a few games. They were a joy to watch. Not the turgid stuff Williams produces. Abdullai is the next prospect to be messed about.
Kyle Joseph is now worth £2.5m. He runs too much for Swansea. Bad teams sell good players cheaply. [Post edited 19 Jan 14:05]
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 14:37 - Jan 19 with 1322 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 13:26 - Jan 19 by union_jack |
I’m watching the Leeds game and seeing Dan James run at players makes me weep. |
Unfortunately the players the Swans have employed to do this haven’t got the skills base. Ronald, Bianchini, Peart-Harris etc.
Sam Parker is a few games away from a full game, maybe this week. He can do that. |  |
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| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 14:50 - Jan 19 with 1260 views | union_jack |
| Is Andrew Coleman on the brink with Williams and the new investors ? on 14:37 - Jan 19 by KeithHaynes |
Unfortunately the players the Swans have employed to do this haven’t got the skills base. Ronald, Bianchini, Peart-Harris etc.
Sam Parker is a few games away from a full game, maybe this week. He can do that. |
The question then becomes will he be asked to? He may need some extra coaching to be able to turn 180 and pass back. | |
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