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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad 12:08 - Dec 27 with 1813 viewsstainrods_elbow

https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/cifuentes-im-happy-with-my-squad

So, if we do sink, the manager won't be blaming his tools!

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:20 - Dec 27 with 1747 viewsQPR_Jim

What exactly do you expect him to say? You've brought it up before and when I've said that he can't really say anything else when he has to manage them and you accused him of lying but you're happy to accept spin from Nourry:

"I read his address and found it well-written, informative and reasonably reflective while maintaining the mostly positive 'spin' one would expect from any official statement of this kind"

So what exactly do you expect a manager to say about a squad he's going to have to work with. You also don't like him alluding to things regarding injuries but again if you're speaking publicly it's best to keep the details in house.
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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:30 - Dec 27 with 1673 viewsstainrods_elbow

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:20 - Dec 27 by QPR_Jim

What exactly do you expect him to say? You've brought it up before and when I've said that he can't really say anything else when he has to manage them and you accused him of lying but you're happy to accept spin from Nourry:

"I read his address and found it well-written, informative and reasonably reflective while maintaining the mostly positive 'spin' one would expect from any official statement of this kind"

So what exactly do you expect a manager to say about a squad he's going to have to work with. You also don't like him alluding to things regarding injuries but again if you're speaking publicly it's best to keep the details in house.


This is so utterly garbled as a picture of what I've written on this issue, and so unilluminating of anything, you might as well have written it in Klingon!

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:36 - Dec 27 with 1651 viewscolinallcars

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:30 - Dec 27 by stainrods_elbow

This is so utterly garbled as a picture of what I've written on this issue, and so unilluminating of anything, you might as well have written it in Klingon!


Sorry, haven't heard this for years….


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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:50 - Dec 27 with 1584 viewsStainrod

In the history of football, has a manager ever gone into a season and said the board has let him down and that his squad is completely cr*p?
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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 13:19 - Dec 27 with 1502 viewsstainrods_elbow

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:50 - Dec 27 by Stainrod

In the history of football, has a manager ever gone into a season and said the board has let him down and that his squad is completely cr*p?


Why take a reasonable point and then turn it into its extreme opposite unless your sole interest is to caricature what's being said?

I quoted Marti in that WLS piece, and his August interview, to highlight the disconnect between those fans who are telling us every week that the squad is light, unbalanced, etc. etc., and MC's own (perhaps surprising) view.

Of course, as someone tried to tell me, the head coach could be putting out statements that are the opposite of what he actually thinks, which, silly me, I lack the lit. crit. skills to turn upside down to read rightly.

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 14:49 - Dec 27 with 1309 viewsmart_Goblin

If I had a pound for every time someone has tried to explain this …..it’s just not worth the time or effort
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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 14:53 - Dec 27 with 1281 viewsBoston

Is it 'Nourry out' again time?

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 15:15 - Dec 27 with 1220 viewsDannyPaddox

Slim chance but should the Rs go into the last 10 minutes at Carrow Road tomorrow I’ll be shouting “Rangers Klingon!

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 16:09 - Dec 27 with 1067 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 12:30 - Dec 27 by stainrods_elbow

This is so utterly garbled as a picture of what I've written on this issue, and so unilluminating of anything, you might as well have written it in Klingon!


I'd say it was spot on. You're trust trying to cause arguments on here with most people.

Boooooooooring.
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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 16:17 - Dec 27 with 1034 viewsStainrod

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 13:19 - Dec 27 by stainrods_elbow

Why take a reasonable point and then turn it into its extreme opposite unless your sole interest is to caricature what's being said?

I quoted Marti in that WLS piece, and his August interview, to highlight the disconnect between those fans who are telling us every week that the squad is light, unbalanced, etc. etc., and MC's own (perhaps surprising) view.

Of course, as someone tried to tell me, the head coach could be putting out statements that are the opposite of what he actually thinks, which, silly me, I lack the lit. crit. skills to turn upside down to read rightly.


Not sure what you think you are proving, that’s all.

Short of Marti being dragged around Shepherd’s Bush Green in tar and feathers for our first defeat in 8 games, I don’t get what you want.

Could the squad be better? Of course.

Was the summer transfer window a success? Some good arrivals but the two most expensive players remain, at the very best, unproven.

How much credit/blame attaches to the head coach for transfers? From what little we know he is one of four decision-makers. With the exception of Andersen and maybe one or two others, his primary input has probably been on the position and type of player as he is unlikely to have seen them perform in person.

Does Marti really think the squad is good enough? Only he and presumably Nourry know because like most professionals he would not air direct criticisms in public or undermine the confidence of his players.

Does it matter if Marti thinks the players are as good as he would like? Not really, because these are the players we have who were bought to the best of the club’s scouting ability and budget.

Is Marti underperforming? He kept us up against huge odds last season and this season if you go by budget we are roughly where we should be. Given our injury crisis, arguably better.

Was yesterday frustrating? Yes. Just as it must have been for Norwich when we beat them 3-0.

So is everything fine and dandy? Clearly not. While our home form has improved significantly our last two away performances have grown much worse. Even without the injury crisis the squad has holes, notably the lack of Hayden. But then fans of even the most successful teams moan they lack this or that player.

How surprised should we be that QPR failed to make it 8 games unbeaten? Not very when the two linchpins of our recent defensive success were unavailable.

Is being in a perpetual state of apparent anger with your club healthy, particularly when generally things are improving? On balance unlikely but I’m not a psychologist.

Does a blame culture tend to improve an organisation? I’m struggling to think of success stories here.

Hope this helps.
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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 20:29 - Dec 27 with 794 viewsstainrods_elbow

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 14:49 - Dec 27 by mart_Goblin

If I had a pound for every time someone has tried to explain this …..it’s just not worth the time or effort


Well, I gave up on you months ago and your pitiful 'adult in the room' pose, so that probably makes us quits.

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 20:32 - Dec 27 with 782 viewsstainrods_elbow

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 16:17 - Dec 27 by Stainrod

Not sure what you think you are proving, that’s all.

Short of Marti being dragged around Shepherd’s Bush Green in tar and feathers for our first defeat in 8 games, I don’t get what you want.

Could the squad be better? Of course.

Was the summer transfer window a success? Some good arrivals but the two most expensive players remain, at the very best, unproven.

How much credit/blame attaches to the head coach for transfers? From what little we know he is one of four decision-makers. With the exception of Andersen and maybe one or two others, his primary input has probably been on the position and type of player as he is unlikely to have seen them perform in person.

Does Marti really think the squad is good enough? Only he and presumably Nourry know because like most professionals he would not air direct criticisms in public or undermine the confidence of his players.

Does it matter if Marti thinks the players are as good as he would like? Not really, because these are the players we have who were bought to the best of the club’s scouting ability and budget.

Is Marti underperforming? He kept us up against huge odds last season and this season if you go by budget we are roughly where we should be. Given our injury crisis, arguably better.

Was yesterday frustrating? Yes. Just as it must have been for Norwich when we beat them 3-0.

So is everything fine and dandy? Clearly not. While our home form has improved significantly our last two away performances have grown much worse. Even without the injury crisis the squad has holes, notably the lack of Hayden. But then fans of even the most successful teams moan they lack this or that player.

How surprised should we be that QPR failed to make it 8 games unbeaten? Not very when the two linchpins of our recent defensive success were unavailable.

Is being in a perpetual state of apparent anger with your club healthy, particularly when generally things are improving? On balance unlikely but I’m not a psychologist.

Does a blame culture tend to improve an organisation? I’m struggling to think of success stories here.

Hope this helps.


Thanks for your perfectly balanced reply, but I'm still struggling to understand what part of my own 2nd paragraph in my original post you're not getting. It's a fairly simple point, surely?

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 20:48 - Dec 27 with 719 viewssdm1508

And so it begins. The poster who likes using words can't be understood by anyone again or when they try to clarify your point it is so far removed from what you supposedly was trying to say, even though everyone reads it the same way. They will point out that your agenda is clear to see from the tone of your post or question your view point. You will get frustrated, make it clear it is them who have the issue and teanishing you with the same brush but you are so self unaware you can't see how you repeat the same things or can't see how with the way your writr people will question it. Wash and repeat and the merry go round starts again
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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 21:03 - Dec 27 with 650 viewsdanehoop

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 20:48 - Dec 27 by sdm1508

And so it begins. The poster who likes using words can't be understood by anyone again or when they try to clarify your point it is so far removed from what you supposedly was trying to say, even though everyone reads it the same way. They will point out that your agenda is clear to see from the tone of your post or question your view point. You will get frustrated, make it clear it is them who have the issue and teanishing you with the same brush but you are so self unaware you can't see how you repeat the same things or can't see how with the way your writr people will question it. Wash and repeat and the merry go round starts again


The ignore button works so well I have found.

Never knowingly understood

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Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 21:07 - Dec 27 with 631 viewssdm1508

Marti (still) 'very happy' with his squad on 21:03 - Dec 27 by danehoop

The ignore button works so well I have found.


I'm just glutton for punishment and what to see if the chain of events will follow the same way lol
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