| January Transfer Thread 13:27 - Dec 23 with 81380 views | KeithHaynes |
Done some asking and Oli McBurnie is most certainly up for a loan back to the UK this window. I’ve been told four Championship clubs are interested. This will all fall on the fee’s involved plus he is on in the region of €36,000 a week. Big numbers but we know how these things can be negotiated.
Do we have the money ?
Yes.
P&S will need to be positive and only the club really know where we are with that at this moment in time, It won’t be massively healthy. Oli has played fourteen games for Las Palmas this season with no return. He has never been a prolific striker, but could he settle into Luke’s team ? |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 15:43 - Jan 20 with 1661 views | ThurrockJack92 |
| January Transfer Thread on 15:29 - Jan 20 by RichardO |
I would add, after the pass forward make sure the passer is in a position to help the recipient of the pass especially if he has someone on his back. Movement when needed on and off the ball is essential, it seems at times that once the pass has been made the job has been done and players sit back and admire their handy work. |
Absolutely, the use of "triangles" has disappeared from our game but was integral to how we played when we were at our best. It is physically and technically more demanding though, which probably goes some way in explaining why we haven't had success in recreating it. |  | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 16:04 - Jan 20 with 1553 views | RichardO |
| January Transfer Thread on 15:43 - Jan 20 by ThurrockJack92 |
Absolutely, the use of "triangles" has disappeared from our game but was integral to how we played when we were at our best. It is physically and technically more demanding though, which probably goes some way in explaining why we haven't had success in recreating it. |
But we have had success doing it Ronald, Key and Franco worked well also using their rotation to make sure we kept our defensive set up as we did against QPR but it is about doing it as a method of driving forward not keeping slow possession getting us out of danger not putting us in danger.
We have seen glimpses of it being done but not as often going forward in a purposeful way. [Post edited 20 Jan 17:02]
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| January Transfer Thread on 18:01 - Jan 20 with 1282 views | Swans9 |
since no new signing been spotted in rossies I did a bit of scouting in the 0 0 benidorm game last night. Their number 7 looked good but he couldn't shoot so they took him off. | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 18:51 - Jan 20 with 1117 views | AnotherJohn |
| January Transfer Thread on 16:04 - Jan 20 by RichardO |
But we have had success doing it Ronald, Key and Franco worked well also using their rotation to make sure we kept our defensive set up as we did against QPR but it is about doing it as a method of driving forward not keeping slow possession getting us out of danger not putting us in danger.
We have seen glimpses of it being done but not as often going forward in a purposeful way. [Post edited 20 Jan 17:02]
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We seem to use "triangles" more when we try to break the press in our own half than we do in attacking positions. In attack it often doesn't work because our technical ability isn't quite there. Of course, even in our own half our limitations with the tactic has led to more than the odd goal. | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 18:54 - Jan 20 with 1103 views | AnotherJohn |
Looking at other transfer business, I see that Burnley have signed JJ Shelvey. Did we miss a trick?  | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 19:16 - Jan 20 with 1018 views | Tomsyard |
| January Transfer Thread on 14:47 - Jan 20 by RichardO |
Can't get that midfield right to enable in Luke's word a successful "Transition" from defence to attack where he has said is our problem area lies. |
Our midfield is really weak and immobile and add to that a tactically inept manager and you end up with the stodgy mess we often witness especially in recent times. It’s his job to work out how to get that transition right and to work on it on the training pitch but it firstly involves how the team is set up without the ball not just the midfield to make it work and that goes back to the manager and his coaches. | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 20:08 - Jan 20 with 846 views | RichardO |
| January Transfer Thread on 18:51 - Jan 20 by AnotherJohn |
We seem to use "triangles" more when we try to break the press in our own half than we do in attacking positions. In attack it often doesn't work because our technical ability isn't quite there. Of course, even in our own half our limitations with the tactic has led to more than the odd goal. |
Wrong place to try something in a way that is being done slowly and doesn't get you up the park quickly. | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 21:44 - Jan 20 with 604 views | guthrieintherain |
| January Transfer Thread on 13:37 - Jan 20 by union_jack |
My patience was wearing thin overall before WBA but I was open to being persuaded. I knew then that he was tactically weak and one directional and that he played the same way regardless of the opposition.
These last few games have proved me right and there’s no way back for him as far as I’m concerned. |
I have been bored for a while well before West Brom.
It's all to predictable and slow.
It's a continuation of Russ Martin only worse
Sick of watching posession for posession sake especially when we are getting trounced as well. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 22:07 - Jan 20 with 521 views | jackrmee |
| January Transfer Thread on 12:55 - Jan 20 by theloneranger |
Kyle Joseph on his way to Hull for £2.5m + add ons.
Hope we've got a tidy sell on clause!! |
I was very disappointed when he left |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:25 - Jan 21 with 194 views | Dr_Winston |
Got to be honest, I'm coming around to the idea that we shouldn't be making any permanent signings the way things are. Loans only. Otherwise we'd only be spending money buying players for a manager who probably won't even make the end of the window.
Suspect that has rapidly become a factor in the clubs thinking since the whole WBA saga started. They have been badly let down by Luke Williams, except he's probably going to escape much of the blame for it. |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:34 - Jan 21 with 175 views | Daggyjack |
| January Transfer Thread on 07:25 - Jan 21 by Dr_Winston |
Got to be honest, I'm coming around to the idea that we shouldn't be making any permanent signings the way things are. Loans only. Otherwise we'd only be spending money buying players for a manager who probably won't even make the end of the window.
Suspect that has rapidly become a factor in the clubs thinking since the whole WBA saga started. They have been badly let down by Luke Williams, except he's probably going to escape much of the blame for it. |
Not escaping blame from me.
I agree with you. I'd imagine that the board were willing to sanction transfers but after WBA and the poor performances in January, they are probably keeping their money safe until a new manager / pre-season. |  | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 07:41 - Jan 21 with 158 views | magicdaps10 |
| January Transfer Thread on 07:25 - Jan 21 by Dr_Winston |
Got to be honest, I'm coming around to the idea that we shouldn't be making any permanent signings the way things are. Loans only. Otherwise we'd only be spending money buying players for a manager who probably won't even make the end of the window.
Suspect that has rapidly become a factor in the clubs thinking since the whole WBA saga started. They have been badly let down by Luke Williams, except he's probably going to escape much of the blame for it. |
Clubs still sign players permanently even under those circumstances, only need to look at Plymouth and even Wycombe yesterday who signed a player and have no managers in place.
I think the loan scenario would just be a short term fix and would highlight even further the lack of planning and forward thinking in place at the club. |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:44 - Jan 21 with 152 views | Dr_Winston |
| January Transfer Thread on 07:41 - Jan 21 by magicdaps10 |
Clubs still sign players permanently even under those circumstances, only need to look at Plymouth and even Wycombe yesterday who signed a player and have no managers in place.
I think the loan scenario would just be a short term fix and would highlight even further the lack of planning and forward thinking in place at the club. |
Thanks for providing an immediate example of Luke Williams escaping much of the blame for it. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:57 - Jan 21 with 112 views | magicdaps10 |
| January Transfer Thread on 07:44 - Jan 21 by Dr_Winston |
Thanks for providing an immediate example of Luke Williams escaping much of the blame for it. |
I don't see how that is an example of excusing blame from Williams!
I have used teams without managers as an example.
Let's not use the Williams situation as a blame for the board not signing permanent players and giving them loans as something to hide behind.
Regardless who is in place as manager, the powers at be should have a system in place to be signing players as other clubs clearly have.
It has nothing to do with who the manager is or in some cases even if a manager is in place as I have pointed out.
It's poor organisation. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 08:01 - Jan 21 with 88 views | magicdaps10 |
And let's not forget that Coleman has stated the club want to keep away from the loan system.
So in doing this it would just highlight another contradiction that would be stacking up quick for the guy. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 08:06 - Jan 21 with 57 views | Dr_Winston |
There is no planet where the sensible (or even sane) thing to do is go out and spend several million quid on players who the next manager might not want.
I'm sure the club had every intent on going out and backing Williams this window. It's a shame that the feeling wasn't mutual. | |
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