| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC 11:04 - Oct 15 with 44715 views | SouthAfricanRanger |
I know very early in the week…..but planning to attack Pompey from the whistle takes mental planning just as Spike Milligan had to deal with his mental struggles in his “Where have all the bullets gone?” brilliant read. Being a QPR supporter has recently (again) been mentally challenging too, but we will overcome this temporary phase and go onto better things, like Spike did 👍👍👍
And yes, it is 754pm in Aus- not touched a drop. So the paragraph above is written with a clear mind, whether it makes sense or not. 😀😀
A 2 1 win for us. Dembele with a bullet pile driver and Frey with a bullet header. |  |
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| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:39 - Oct 19 with 2727 views | E15Hoop |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:26 - Oct 19 by SteveB |
Mate, you can shove your tongue right up MC's arse if that's your want, But do not dig out those who question the current managers' possible short falls and label them as fans who lack loyalty.
You are not a better fan than me, so don't fking judge me. |
I may not be a better fan than you, but I would respectfully suggest I am a somewhat more emotionally mature one than you, given your childish temper tantrum.
What this is about is being prepared to keep a calm head, face problems head on and being prepared to back the hierarchy to sort out the issues, not throw everyone overboard at the first sign of trouble, as we have continually done at this club for the last decade and a half at least.
I'm glad I don't have to work with half of you miserable c*nts! Imagine if this was your company having operational problems? Presumably you'd be looking to throw the whole management team overboard as well, ignorantly neglecting the fact that they probably appointed you in the first place.. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:39 - Oct 19 with 2709 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:22 - Oct 19 by THEBUSH |
I'm trying to think of something positive to say?
All I can think of is, we still have time, for a miracle to happen.
All is not lost yet, or is it? |
Think it probably is lost. We don't have enough goals in the team, and are surprisingly weak at the back. That is a sign of a team heading southwards. Until we get a couple of proven strikers...it could get embarrassing TBH. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:41 - Oct 19 with 2657 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:23 - Oct 19 by Burnleyhoop |
Consensus is to keep your powder dry until the completion of the first ten games.
Now completed, time to light the touch paper and watch the fireworks. |
We are too dull for fireworks 😉 | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:41 - Oct 19 with 2655 views | CamberleyR |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:14 - Oct 19 by Pdog |
Whatever method the Head of Methodology has put in place needs to be methodised out of existence. |
WTF even is one? Money for old rope he's earning whatever he does. |  |
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| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:42 - Oct 19 with 2641 views | Benny_the_Ball |
My that was poor.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've no midfield. Worse still, I can't see how we're going to remedy it until January. Colback aside, there are precious few options. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:43 - Oct 19 with 2634 views | Mr_Beef |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 16:56 - Oct 19 by lassel |
I would guess done after Sunderland and we will back to questioning the wisdom of appointing a 27 year old recruitment consultant to build a team and define the club ethos. |
Agreed. A man whose only football experience was as part of a start up consultancy. Is there any other club where he'd be given a dual role as the CEO and director of football? Meanwhile the club will pay the price as he builds up his CV. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:44 - Oct 19 with 2593 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:24 - Oct 19 by loftboy |
Just on the central line back to get my car at Redbridge, pissed off with all of it but fella bit sorry for Frey today who worked his bollocks off. |
Whole hearted and cares...but still not good enough for this level. If some of the rest matched his application, though...we might have a chance. Too many sulkers as usual in the squad. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:52 - Oct 19 with 2381 views | Damo1962 |
You bigged up Ainsworth if my memory serves me right. Having patience with a plan and vision is of course laudable and sensible...I just don't think we have one personally. | | | |
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| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:52 - Oct 19 with 2379 views | SteveB |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:39 - Oct 19 by E15Hoop |
I may not be a better fan than you, but I would respectfully suggest I am a somewhat more emotionally mature one than you, given your childish temper tantrum.
What this is about is being prepared to keep a calm head, face problems head on and being prepared to back the hierarchy to sort out the issues, not throw everyone overboard at the first sign of trouble, as we have continually done at this club for the last decade and a half at least.
I'm glad I don't have to work with half of you miserable c*nts! Imagine if this was your company having operational problems? Presumably you'd be looking to throw the whole management team overboard as well, ignorantly neglecting the fact that they probably appointed you in the first place.. |
Well now you've made it personal. Adding the word "respectfully" does not make it less so.
We will agree to disagree and go our separate ways.
C**ting us off though?
Well done. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:54 - Oct 19 with 2350 views | Dorse |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:24 - Oct 19 by loftboy |
Just on the central line back to get my car at Redbridge, pissed off with all of it but fella bit sorry for Frey today who worked his bollocks off. |
This.
Frey was a cut above, in both attitude and effort today. Chasing back, winning balls, closing down the oppo, having a row with their CBs, making the right runs (and staring with disbelief as yet another cross gets nowhere near the postcode in which he is standing)...
Can't ask for much more out of him as things stand but, boy, do we need someone, anyone, who can deliver an accurate first time ball |  |
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| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:55 - Oct 19 with 2342 views | E15Hoop |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:04 - Oct 19 by Damo1962 |
Glad Field is finally getting found out. He has got away with it for too long. |
What - the same Sam Field who has continually thrown himself in front of balls in our box, and made countless last ditch tackles, and for large parts of his time at the club has seemed like the last man standing??
That's a pretty unwarranted cheap shot, don't you think, even for you.. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:00 - Oct 19 with 2255 views | AlexandraR43 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:09 - Oct 19 by E15Hoop |
I sincerely hope we're not going down that road again! At some point the club hierarchy simply has to bite the bullet, commit to a plan and stick to it, no matter the consequence.
How many of you on here last season were caling Marti the Messiah? Now you want to crucify him at the first sign of trouble!
And you wonder why this keeps happening?? Loyal supporters my a**e...  |
Echo your thoughts thoroughly.
Before we start going down this path of calling for Marti's head can we please maintain some perspective. With the signing of many new players in the summer, I felt an ominous hope, which now feels misplaced in traditional QPR fashion. Yet I am sure under Marti we will not be relegated and to sack him would be suicidal.
I had the displeasure of watching a lot of Ainsworthball home and away at the time. To call it dreadful would be an underestimation. 30% possession, no goal threat, defence like butter, and the transformative capability of making our squad seemingly terrified of stringing more than two consecutive passes together. I got to the point where I came away from matches feeling not angry, but empathetic for the team who were for my money, applying themselves without any sense of directive or sense of coaching.
That team was utterly doomed. It was hopeless, chronically bereft of confidence and weak. The job Marti did last year was nothing short of messianic. Now if you want to be revisionist and diminish the scale of the task that Marti achieved that's fine but your either painfully blind or excluding evidence to further your inevitable grievances.
Marti has shown his capabilities. This squad has glaring weaknesses but it is still stronger than last year's collectively. Are Marti's tactics failing? Seemingly, repeatedly. Is Marti aware of this? Undoubtedly. Marti not only deserves at least another 5-10 games (as without him we'd be in league one already), we must for our own benefit let him work this turgid spell. The tide will change. Marti has in a myriad of ways demonstrated creative solutions and pragmatism last season and this season will be no different. Can we please keep the toys within the pram.
Now this isn't me saying "How dare you criticise Saint Marti". Harsh and scratching criticism is not only justified but logical and helpful. We're bloody bottom of the League. Yet, even if you entertain the counterfactual of sacking Marti do you really believe an sunny alternative is just around the corner? We're all far too seasoned in JFH and Dutch Schteve trauma for that delusion, or at least we should be. There obviously comes a point in which you would sack the manager if this persisted, but my point is, I don't think it will, if we don't hound Marti out the club first. We are not at the edge, there's no need to jump.
All 24 teams start from 0 so a bad run of form to start the season magnifies results and can make the table look bleak. Even good teams that place well come Spring, can find themselves with runs of dire games where they muster 7 points from 10 games. Coventry most prominently decide to give the league a headstart every year before making a late dive for the play offs. Now, to make it clear, we are not making the play offs, I'm not that mad, but the example stands. [Post edited 19 Oct 18:03]
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| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:11 - Oct 19 with 2137 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:55 - Oct 19 by E15Hoop |
What - the same Sam Field who has continually thrown himself in front of balls in our box, and made countless last ditch tackles, and for large parts of his time at the club has seemed like the last man standing??
That's a pretty unwarranted cheap shot, don't you think, even for you.. |
Nope.Over rated...by people like you. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:16 - Oct 19 with 2092 views | slmrstid |
In fairness to Field I always hark back to Ian Holloway talking about having a central midfield with a piano shifter to piano player. He talked about himself being the shifter with Wilkins the player.
In more recent times Derry was an excellent shifter whilst Faurlin played.
Field, I think, is an excellent shifter. Unfortunately, he never has a player with him and that exposes him. I hoped Madsen would be that player but so far...no. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:25 - Oct 19 with 2026 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:16 - Oct 19 by slmrstid |
In fairness to Field I always hark back to Ian Holloway talking about having a central midfield with a piano shifter to piano player. He talked about himself being the shifter with Wilkins the player.
In more recent times Derry was an excellent shifter whilst Faurlin played.
Field, I think, is an excellent shifter. Unfortunately, he never has a player with him and that exposes him. I hoped Madsen would be that player but so far...no. |
With respect, he isn't close to Holloway and Derry. Don't think anyone can deny that his performance level has dropped off alarmingly - and not from that high either.Just think the he is overrated by a lot of people, while other players get pelters. He cares obviously...but that's not enough for me personally.And I said the same thing when he had better options alongside him as well, so this isn't scapegoating. In his defence, he isn't our biggest problem...just one of many. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:36 - Oct 19 with 1967 views | Spaceman_P |
Unable to watch today, but heart sank when I saw it was 2-1, heart sank more when the game ended and I saw we lost.
we really are Sado-masicists to support this team OR we are cucks.
I don't get why QPR does this to us, year in year out.
So much promise at the beginning of the season and just utter-poop. Its weird cos on paper we're a good team, but wtf has happened.
I's like they're all in summer mode still, there are a few exceptions Dunne, Frey and Nardi, but jebus christ this is depressing.
It just creates so much apathy towards the team.
Something needs to happen soon. Looks like we'll all be hoping for a non-relegation bottom spot again like last season.... I think if someone offers us 18th place, we'll bite their hand off right now. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:46 - Oct 19 with 1922 views | charmr |
Sounds more like the fans have lost the message board rather then has Marti has lost the dressing room.
Wrong acquisitions on the playing side seems the problem to me, again.
Come to Rangers and earn a living. That’s it. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:54 - Oct 19 with 1866 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:36 - Oct 19 by Spaceman_P |
Unable to watch today, but heart sank when I saw it was 2-1, heart sank more when the game ended and I saw we lost.
we really are Sado-masicists to support this team OR we are cucks.
I don't get why QPR does this to us, year in year out.
So much promise at the beginning of the season and just utter-poop. Its weird cos on paper we're a good team, but wtf has happened.
I's like they're all in summer mode still, there are a few exceptions Dunne, Frey and Nardi, but jebus christ this is depressing.
It just creates so much apathy towards the team.
Something needs to happen soon. Looks like we'll all be hoping for a non-relegation bottom spot again like last season.... I think if someone offers us 18th place, we'll bite their hand off right now. |
Sorry Spaceman, we aren't a good team on paper. The table doesn't lie unfortunately. There are some on here(not you fella) - who think I get some perverse pleasure out stating the reality of our situation - well they couldn't be further from the truth.If it helps their own frustrations...then sobe it.I hate what is happening to our club as much as anyone else. But I will not be told things are better than they obviously are. Walk the walk Rangers. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 19:02 - Oct 19 with 1793 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 18:00 - Oct 19 by AlexandraR43 |
Echo your thoughts thoroughly.
Before we start going down this path of calling for Marti's head can we please maintain some perspective. With the signing of many new players in the summer, I felt an ominous hope, which now feels misplaced in traditional QPR fashion. Yet I am sure under Marti we will not be relegated and to sack him would be suicidal.
I had the displeasure of watching a lot of Ainsworthball home and away at the time. To call it dreadful would be an underestimation. 30% possession, no goal threat, defence like butter, and the transformative capability of making our squad seemingly terrified of stringing more than two consecutive passes together. I got to the point where I came away from matches feeling not angry, but empathetic for the team who were for my money, applying themselves without any sense of directive or sense of coaching.
That team was utterly doomed. It was hopeless, chronically bereft of confidence and weak. The job Marti did last year was nothing short of messianic. Now if you want to be revisionist and diminish the scale of the task that Marti achieved that's fine but your either painfully blind or excluding evidence to further your inevitable grievances.
Marti has shown his capabilities. This squad has glaring weaknesses but it is still stronger than last year's collectively. Are Marti's tactics failing? Seemingly, repeatedly. Is Marti aware of this? Undoubtedly. Marti not only deserves at least another 5-10 games (as without him we'd be in league one already), we must for our own benefit let him work this turgid spell. The tide will change. Marti has in a myriad of ways demonstrated creative solutions and pragmatism last season and this season will be no different. Can we please keep the toys within the pram.
Now this isn't me saying "How dare you criticise Saint Marti". Harsh and scratching criticism is not only justified but logical and helpful. We're bloody bottom of the League. Yet, even if you entertain the counterfactual of sacking Marti do you really believe an sunny alternative is just around the corner? We're all far too seasoned in JFH and Dutch Schteve trauma for that delusion, or at least we should be. There obviously comes a point in which you would sack the manager if this persisted, but my point is, I don't think it will, if we don't hound Marti out the club first. We are not at the edge, there's no need to jump.
All 24 teams start from 0 so a bad run of form to start the season magnifies results and can make the table look bleak. Even good teams that place well come Spring, can find themselves with runs of dire games where they muster 7 points from 10 games. Coventry most prominently decide to give the league a headstart every year before making a late dive for the play offs. Now, to make it clear, we are not making the play offs, I'm not that mad, but the example stands. [Post edited 19 Oct 18:03]
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Agree that we absolutely must not look at changing manager again. We've got to allow Marti the full season irrespective of what happens and, if we go down, he gets next season too | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 19:22 - Oct 19 with 1701 views | E15Hoop |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 17:52 - Oct 19 by SteveB |
Well now you've made it personal. Adding the word "respectfully" does not make it less so.
We will agree to disagree and go our separate ways.
C**ting us off though?
Well done. |
And you're suggesting that your original remarks weren't personal?
Beware the four fingers pointing back at you, when you start pointing fingers yourself.
All I've done is act like a grown-up - I'm sorry that you clearly can't deal with it honestly and maturely.
Anyway, have a good evening yourself.. | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 19:30 - Oct 19 with 1605 views | BostonR |
It’s obvious that Marti doesn’t fancy some of the new players. Something has gone horribly wrong behind the scenes given his management approach last season.
This club just drifts from on heap of stupid to another huge pile of stupid! We’ve been flirting with relegation for too many seasons and this is beginning to look like the beginning of the end.
Utter shite all round. |  | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 21:21 - Oct 19 with 1307 views | lave16 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 19:30 - Oct 19 by BostonR |
It’s obvious that Marti doesn’t fancy some of the new players. Something has gone horribly wrong behind the scenes given his management approach last season.
This club just drifts from on heap of stupid to another huge pile of stupid! We’ve been flirting with relegation for too many seasons and this is beginning to look like the beginning of the end.
Utter shite all round. |
It's not all doom and gloom guys we're only 12 points of the playoffs | |
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| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 21:31 - Oct 19 with 1279 views | Damo1962 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 21:21 - Oct 19 by lave16 |
It's not all doom and gloom guys we're only 12 points of the playoffs |
At least the hope won't be killing us this season 😁Quite liberating in a way🤔😉 | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 21:38 - Oct 19 with 1248 views | loftus77 |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 19:02 - Oct 19 by The_Beast1976 |
Agree that we absolutely must not look at changing manager again. We've got to allow Marti the full season irrespective of what happens and, if we go down, he gets next season too |
This. Stability.
Changing the manager/management team does not (will not) solve anything. Has been proved time and time and time again. JFH to Olly to Schteve to Warbs to MB to Critch to Gaz.on and on and on... | | | |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 21:41 - Oct 19 with 1232 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Our Pomp and Ceremony - Match thread vs PFC on 21:38 - Oct 19 by loftus77 |
This. Stability.
Changing the manager/management team does not (will not) solve anything. Has been proved time and time and time again. JFH to Olly to Schteve to Warbs to MB to Critch to Gaz.on and on and on... |
You’ve missed off Ainsworth to Cifuentes….. |  | | |
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