| Senny 08:15 - Apr 4 with 4070 views | Lblock |
Hope we had a sell on clause as he might be another source of income this summer
From The Telegraph
Middlesbrough's Seny Dieng has interest from Premier League and European clubs ahead of a busy summer of trading for goalkeepers.
If him and Eze move for decent fees could be a nice little touch for the budget |  |
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| Senny on 08:51 - Apr 4 with 3899 views | stevec |
No idea if we have but I do think sell on clauses should only be allowed, in fact made compulsory, on deals where you directly sell up a Division or more.
In Seny case, we only managed to sell sideways. Dickie same. If Seny has developed such that a Premier club want him now then really only Middlesbrough should stand to gain.
If this was compulsory, it would alleviate the problem of losing good youth players for peanuts to a large extent.
Eze yes, Sterling Yes. Seny no. Dickie no. |  | | |
| Senny on 09:22 - Apr 4 with 3759 views | Lblock |
| Senny on 08:51 - Apr 4 by stevec |
No idea if we have but I do think sell on clauses should only be allowed, in fact made compulsory, on deals where you directly sell up a Division or more.
In Seny case, we only managed to sell sideways. Dickie same. If Seny has developed such that a Premier club want him now then really only Middlesbrough should stand to gain.
If this was compulsory, it would alleviate the problem of losing good youth players for peanuts to a large extent.
Eze yes, Sterling Yes. Seny no. Dickie no. |
But what if they don’t “develop” for reasons the club can’t control and then you have to sell sideways?
For example not being able to settle in an area, personality clash with a new manager or the himself chucking a strop (see post Beale era)
It suits the buying club as it’s a lower fee and they accept the potential % reduction if ever sold on.
If Senny goes for £10mill and we get £2mill I’m sure Boro be happy with their £8mill
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| Senny on 09:28 - Apr 4 with 3730 views | hamptonhillhoop |
| Senny on 08:51 - Apr 4 by stevec |
No idea if we have but I do think sell on clauses should only be allowed, in fact made compulsory, on deals where you directly sell up a Division or more.
In Seny case, we only managed to sell sideways. Dickie same. If Seny has developed such that a Premier club want him now then really only Middlesbrough should stand to gain.
If this was compulsory, it would alleviate the problem of losing good youth players for peanuts to a large extent.
Eze yes, Sterling Yes. Seny no. Dickie no. |
The counter argument to that is that QPR developed him for many years, sending him out on various loans etc and then taking the risk of blooding him in the Championship. He's been at Borough for one season |  | | |
| Senny on 09:28 - Apr 4 with 3719 views | dmm |
I'm pretty sure there was no sell on clause in Dieng's transfer to Borough. He cost them 'up to' £2m so, should it happen, a PL transfer should net them a pretty penny. |  | | |
| Senny on 09:45 - Apr 4 with 3622 views | GroveR |
I think Seny has an agent who knows how to talk up his client. |  | | |
| Senny on 09:50 - Apr 4 with 3589 views | CateLeBonR |
| Senny on 09:28 - Apr 4 by hamptonhillhoop |
The counter argument to that is that QPR developed him for many years, sending him out on various loans etc and then taking the risk of blooding him in the Championship. He's been at Borough for one season |
To counter that you could argue that Boro have generally been a well run club lately and proven very able to develop and sell on it’s players. So in a better position to pick off players from struggling clubs like QPR.
I think you’d need to have much greater parity of budgets and stronger/better rules in the Championship/Premier League for this to work properly and fairly but I like the idea. Also I’m not sure how it would work with players moving from teams in the Championship to top tier clubs in say Scotland/France/Belgium/Netherlands. Would that be classed as a step up or a side ways move? |  | | |
| Senny on 09:54 - Apr 4 with 3559 views | dannyblue |
| Senny on 08:51 - Apr 4 by stevec |
No idea if we have but I do think sell on clauses should only be allowed, in fact made compulsory, on deals where you directly sell up a Division or more.
In Seny case, we only managed to sell sideways. Dickie same. If Seny has developed such that a Premier club want him now then really only Middlesbrough should stand to gain.
If this was compulsory, it would alleviate the problem of losing good youth players for peanuts to a large extent.
Eze yes, Sterling Yes. Seny no. Dickie no. |
It's a private negotiation between two parties both trying to get a good deal. Is there a reason for anyone else to interfere with it?
Hope we have a clause and well done Seny if he gets such a move. |  | | |
| Senny on 09:55 - Apr 4 with 3554 views | E17hoop |
| Senny on 09:45 - Apr 4 by GroveR |
I think Seny has an agent who knows how to talk up his client. |
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| Senny on 10:04 - Apr 4 with 3437 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Senny on 08:51 - Apr 4 by stevec |
No idea if we have but I do think sell on clauses should only be allowed, in fact made compulsory, on deals where you directly sell up a Division or more.
In Seny case, we only managed to sell sideways. Dickie same. If Seny has developed such that a Premier club want him now then really only Middlesbrough should stand to gain.
If this was compulsory, it would alleviate the problem of losing good youth players for peanuts to a large extent.
Eze yes, Sterling Yes. Seny no. Dickie no. |
And let's say a club comes down from the Prem with a shed load of parachute payments, then by your rationale, sell-on clauses would ot be allowed.
If I have a player and you want to buy him, then depending on the relative bargaining positions, the seller, and the parties in general, should be free to negotiate a sell-on or appearance or performance clause as they see fit, regardless of the division of the buying club, wherever they are in the world.
However, in terms of young players brought through a club's youth systems, then a mandatory sell-on clause aimed at mitigating the potential loss from poaching by richer clubs might be a good thing. |  |
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| Senny on 11:55 - Apr 4 with 3077 views | Superhoops2808 |
I have a Boro supporting friend and they really love and rate him. Think they will be disappointed if he does go. Would be a good signing for a lower placed PL side |  | | |
| Senny on 12:04 - Apr 4 with 3033 views | kensalriser |
| Senny on 08:51 - Apr 4 by stevec |
No idea if we have but I do think sell on clauses should only be allowed, in fact made compulsory, on deals where you directly sell up a Division or more.
In Seny case, we only managed to sell sideways. Dickie same. If Seny has developed such that a Premier club want him now then really only Middlesbrough should stand to gain.
If this was compulsory, it would alleviate the problem of losing good youth players for peanuts to a large extent.
Eze yes, Sterling Yes. Seny no. Dickie no. |
Surprised to see you speak in favour of intervention in free markets.
Who should have the power to decree this rule? |  |
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| Senny on 12:09 - Apr 4 with 3012 views | Dorse |
| Senny on 12:04 - Apr 4 by kensalriser |
Surprised to see you speak in favour of intervention in free markets.
Who should have the power to decree this rule? |
This guy. |  |
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| Senny on 12:11 - Apr 4 with 2981 views | dmm |
| Senny on 12:09 - Apr 4 by Dorse |
This guy. |
Oooo, Count Binface has got a nice new costume. | | | |
| Senny on 12:17 - Apr 4 with 2931 views | kensalriser |
I'd be concerned about his compliance with fire safety regs tbh. | |
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| Senny on 13:15 - Apr 4 with 2750 views | hantssi |
We can all agree or disagree but the only fact we’re certain of is that none of us actually know! |  | | |
| Senny on 22:10 - Apr 4 with 2242 views | hoops_legend |
| Senny on 13:15 - Apr 4 by hantssi |
We can all agree or disagree but the only fact we’re certain of is that none of us actually know! |
Great player - some were pleased when we sold and I couldn’t work out why |  |
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| Senny on 15:13 - Apr 5 with 1667 views | Dorse |
| Senny on 22:10 - Apr 4 by hoops_legend |
Great player - some were pleased when we sold and I couldn’t work out why |
They were Middlesbrough fans? | |
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