| Herberts. 12:29 - Oct 24 with 17443 views | dutch |
Among the thousands in the away end and sides at Peterborough yesterday there was a surprisingly large number of young, ie under 25, herbert's indulging in various forms of jolity. A few got out of hand an made fools of themselves (of us), but most were content to wear various caps and sing Rangers songs. My question is where have they come from? I do literally mean where have they come from. In the old days they would have been out of the Bush or the Grove, but today I suspect not. Where are they from? |  | | |  |
| Herberts. on 22:59 - Oct 25 with 2883 views | WatfordR |
I sat ( or stood mostly) in the stand where additional tickets were allocated, and apart from the guy who was carted off for celebrating on the pitch when we scored, I saw no aggro or bad behaviour at all. .
Was the bottle throwing in that end, or behind the goal? |  | | |
| Herberts. on 23:58 - Oct 25 with 2788 views | paulhoop2 |
Behind goal not far from me . You see the point I was making earlier in the thread was that those with issues standing like myself with a dodgy back don’t want to stand cos of the idiots around me. I’m all for a good atmosphere and I love the banter etc but I just want to be able to sit, great idea about being able to pick your own seats away from Home, oh and an answer to another question I’m a ranger unfortunately my dad is a Chelsea fan !! A lot of his Mates from Westbourne Park and Harrow road were split qpr or chelski thankfully I followed another relatives example lol | |
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| Herberts. on 09:14 - Oct 26 with 2551 views | TheChef |
| Herberts. on 15:36 - Oct 25 by Hayesender |
I was chatting to PC Gerard outside the pub on Saturday, when one of the peaky blinder hat brigade said to me, "what you doing talking to that cnt, you a fcking grass or something"
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| Herberts. on 09:44 - Oct 26 with 2460 views | PlanetHonneywood |
For my O’ Level geography back in 1982, I did my course project on: The Sphere of Influence of QPR.
I interviewed fans and i was looking at where from and how fans came to Loftus Road. It was significantly west and west of London; coming down M40/M4 and the Central Line. The immediate vicinity around the ground was surprisingly lower.
Post-war, people became more affluent and moved out of areas that were at the time, maybe seen as being a bit crap, to areas like Greenford, Northolt, Perivale and the likes, which had transport connections into White City. In time, those folks wanted to move further west to more rural areas.
Thing is: areas that were seen as crap 40/50 years ago are now bloody expensive and so is the socio-economic demographic changing and if so: is the immediate vicinity QPR territory? If not, how will this affect the affluent migration pattern to the burbs of Rfosi in years to come?
Picking up on a point raised earlier: I have detected the UK becoming more aggressive with my periodic trips back. I don’t think it’s exclusive to the UK, but the cause of this is, was and will always be, marked economic inequalities. There always be rich and poor, but it’s not so much that the gap is widening, but it’s not being filled by a middle class and the effects of this is more stark than at any stage in the last 40/50 years in my humble.
Sadly, I see no one or anything being done to address it. I would hate to be younger than 30 in 2021. Maybe even 40! |  |
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| Herberts. on 10:07 - Oct 26 with 2386 views | MrSheen |
| Herberts. on 22:59 - Oct 25 by WatfordR |
I sat ( or stood mostly) in the stand where additional tickets were allocated, and apart from the guy who was carted off for celebrating on the pitch when we scored, I saw no aggro or bad behaviour at all. .
Was the bottle throwing in that end, or behind the goal? |
Same for me in the top corner nearest the halfway line...lots of rambling drunken abuse of the officials and subs, but no attempt to intimidate the home fans, no friction with the stewards or police, no tension between the fans, no beer thrown, took it quite well considering. I didn't like the football factowy swaggering outside, we were in a pleasant market town, not the Den. |  | | |
| Herberts. on 10:32 - Oct 26 with 2352 views | robith |
| Herberts. on 13:46 - Oct 25 by toboboly |
People are tvvats. Most things would be much better if half the population wasn't around. |
Thanos' alt exposed |  | | |
| Herberts. on 10:38 - Oct 26 with 2331 views | robith |
| Herberts. on 09:44 - Oct 26 by PlanetHonneywood |
For my O’ Level geography back in 1982, I did my course project on: The Sphere of Influence of QPR.
I interviewed fans and i was looking at where from and how fans came to Loftus Road. It was significantly west and west of London; coming down M40/M4 and the Central Line. The immediate vicinity around the ground was surprisingly lower.
Post-war, people became more affluent and moved out of areas that were at the time, maybe seen as being a bit crap, to areas like Greenford, Northolt, Perivale and the likes, which had transport connections into White City. In time, those folks wanted to move further west to more rural areas.
Thing is: areas that were seen as crap 40/50 years ago are now bloody expensive and so is the socio-economic demographic changing and if so: is the immediate vicinity QPR territory? If not, how will this affect the affluent migration pattern to the burbs of Rfosi in years to come?
Picking up on a point raised earlier: I have detected the UK becoming more aggressive with my periodic trips back. I don’t think it’s exclusive to the UK, but the cause of this is, was and will always be, marked economic inequalities. There always be rich and poor, but it’s not so much that the gap is widening, but it’s not being filled by a middle class and the effects of this is more stark than at any stage in the last 40/50 years in my humble.
Sadly, I see no one or anything being done to address it. I would hate to be younger than 30 in 2021. Maybe even 40! |
The UK is a very angry place, you're right
I put it down to 3 things
1. The financial crisis, its after effects on inequality, and the culture war that's sprung up to avoid talking about capitalism's failure post 2008
2. The total triumph of individualism over collectivism post Thatcher
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| Herberts. on 11:22 - Oct 26 with 2232 views | stowmarketrange |
| Herberts. on 10:38 - Oct 26 by robith |
The UK is a very angry place, you're right
I put it down to 3 things
1. The financial crisis, its after effects on inequality, and the culture war that's sprung up to avoid talking about capitalism's failure post 2008
2. The total triumph of individualism over collectivism post Thatcher
3. Gear |
With the amount of angry drivers I see on our roads daily,I’d hope it was for the first two reasons rather than the last one. |  | | |
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| Herberts. on 11:40 - Oct 26 with 2165 views | SK_hoops |
| Herberts. on 11:22 - Oct 26 by stowmarketrange |
With the amount of angry drivers I see on our roads daily,I’d hope it was for the first two reasons rather than the last one. |
There's a top gear joke in there somewhere. | | | |
| Herberts. on 11:42 - Oct 26 with 2159 views | headhoops |
alli alli alli oh, Were QPR FC coming down the M40? |  |
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| Herberts. on 11:46 - Oct 26 with 2136 views | willis1980 |
| Herberts. on 20:23 - Oct 25 by SK_hoops |
Definitely not Brentford or Ealing. 0 rangers presence round here. |
I dunno, my wife taught in west acton which is pretty much ealing and she had a few rangers in her class. the previous teacher left a load of rangers posters etc in his desk | | | |
| Herberts. on 13:16 - Oct 26 with 1950 views | PunteR |
| Herberts. on 22:31 - Oct 25 by loftboy |
There’s an answer to that , don’t step out of line. |
Don't you mean , 'don't get caught' stepping out of line ?  |  |
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| Herberts. on 13:22 - Oct 26 with 1931 views | robith |
To the original Q, yeah a lot in that M40 corridor - my dad grew up in Paddington, and I was born in Hammersmith, but mostly grew up in Hillingdon, and at school Rangers had support amongst the kids on par with Utd and Liverpool | | | |
| Herberts. on 13:28 - Oct 26 with 1908 views | plasmahoop |
Quite an interesting discussion. I admit I've been a lot angrier myself recently. I've stopped delivery driving, as I was basically driving round with extreme tourettes like symptoms all day.
As for society, I feel there is a parallel with the late 70s, with there being this sense of general decline, and nothing working properly at all. The main difference though being that there is a lot more drug use unfortunately. I like drinking, probably way too much, but if you stick to beer you're normally still fairly with it when the match is on. Large sections of the population seem to want to get totally off their faces and don't watch the football /cricket /racing. And whilst there are societal inequalities these folk can afford to get to Peterborough / get test match tickets etc | | | |
| Herberts. on 13:40 - Oct 26 with 1836 views | Silverfoxqpr |
| Herberts. on 13:28 - Oct 26 by plasmahoop |
Quite an interesting discussion. I admit I've been a lot angrier myself recently. I've stopped delivery driving, as I was basically driving round with extreme tourettes like symptoms all day.
As for society, I feel there is a parallel with the late 70s, with there being this sense of general decline, and nothing working properly at all. The main difference though being that there is a lot more drug use unfortunately. I like drinking, probably way too much, but if you stick to beer you're normally still fairly with it when the match is on. Large sections of the population seem to want to get totally off their faces and don't watch the football /cricket /racing. And whilst there are societal inequalities these folk can afford to get to Peterborough / get test match tickets etc |
Yes interesting point and something myself and my mate were talking about on the way back Saturday. Although there were plenty of young 'erberts around us (they were in the main fine though) what really struck me was the amount of guys in their 40's and 50's absolutely off their casket. Three of them were in front of me, turned up at 15.15, spent the next half an hour literally holding each other up they were so pi55ed and coked up, chatted and shouted at each other throughout, watched zero of the match then buggered off never to be seen again. I said to my mate, how did that lot get themselves together enough to even purchase tickets? And what the hell do they do for a living? Amazing scenes. |  | | |
| Herberts. on 13:45 - Oct 26 with 1795 views | Juzzie |
Herberts & Sherbert.
Could be the name of a band. |  | | |
| Herberts. on 13:57 - Oct 26 with 1744 views | robith |
| Herberts. on 13:40 - Oct 26 by Silverfoxqpr |
Yes interesting point and something myself and my mate were talking about on the way back Saturday. Although there were plenty of young 'erberts around us (they were in the main fine though) what really struck me was the amount of guys in their 40's and 50's absolutely off their casket. Three of them were in front of me, turned up at 15.15, spent the next half an hour literally holding each other up they were so pi55ed and coked up, chatted and shouted at each other throughout, watched zero of the match then buggered off never to be seen again. I said to my mate, how did that lot get themselves together enough to even purchase tickets? And what the hell do they do for a living? Amazing scenes. |
I came out of the sainsburys on Uxbridge Road before the Coventry game to see 3 Cov fans the same age as my dad doing bumps of coke off the back of their hands in the middle of the street. Madness. | | | |
| Herberts. on 14:19 - Oct 26 with 1685 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Herberts. on 13:57 - Oct 26 by robith |
I came out of the sainsburys on Uxbridge Road before the Coventry game to see 3 Cov fans the same age as my dad doing bumps of coke off the back of their hands in the middle of the street. Madness. |
Out of interest, do you know if Sainsbury’s paid them their nectar points? | |
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| Herberts. on 14:44 - Oct 26 with 1604 views | Discodroids |
I put the burning magnesium rage in society down to three things.
1. Societal failure to grasp that philosophical argumentation can only be achieved via the prism of Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics underpinned by cicero's theorem on mankinds hierarchy of needs.
2. Post brexit provocative Union Jack Logos stamped on Asda own Brand custard creams.
3. Gear. [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 14:48]
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| Herberts. on 15:22 - Oct 26 with 1506 views | ted_hendrix |
I've basically become Mr Angry over the last two years.
I'm quite cross right now, when I say cross bloody hell I mean cross. [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 15:23]
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| Herberts. on 16:43 - Oct 26 with 1354 views | stantheman10 |
I assume none of you were around in the 70's and early 80's if you think these 'Erberts are intimidating! Even 20 years ago there were Police vans and running street fights against Colchester! So I think you're all getting carried away if you think this lot are trouble. | | | |
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