| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 13:55 - May 4 with 731 views | 1885_SFC |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 13:05 - May 4 by grumpy |
Has anyone asked the Germans how they appear to have this virus under control or do we think we know better? |
They seem to have performed the best in Europe with regard to war on Covid.
Third time lucky I guess. |  |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 14:44 - May 4 with 698 views | Boris_ |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 13:05 - May 4 by grumpy |
Has anyone asked the Germans how they appear to have this virus under control or do we think we know better? |
If you want to remove your political agenda ( which lefties previously used for Brexit ) where every good news story is in spite of the government and ignored ( such as increasing Ventilator and bed capacity ) and every bad news is because of the government then you might be able to look at facts?
When taking everything in to account, we are doing better than the majority of the large population European countries with the exception of Germany... although their healthcare workers don't have any PPE so swings and roundabouts huh? |  |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 15:00 - May 4 with 675 views | DorsetIan |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 14:44 - May 4 by Boris_ |
If you want to remove your political agenda ( which lefties previously used for Brexit ) where every good news story is in spite of the government and ignored ( such as increasing Ventilator and bed capacity ) and every bad news is because of the government then you might be able to look at facts?
When taking everything in to account, we are doing better than the majority of the large population European countries with the exception of Germany... although their healthcare workers don't have any PPE so swings and roundabouts huh? |
Which 'large population European counties' are we doing better than. Be specific. |  |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 15:40 - May 4 with 666 views | Boris_ |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 15:00 - May 4 by DorsetIan |
Which 'large population European counties' are we doing better than. Be specific. |
Italy, Spain and France for a start.
Don't just look at the number of deaths. There's a whole host of different factors to take in to account... that would be a bit simple? | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 15:58 - May 4 with 643 views | DorsetIan |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 15:40 - May 4 by Boris_ |
Italy, Spain and France for a start.
Don't just look at the number of deaths. There's a whole host of different factors to take in to account... that would be a bit simple? |
'for a start'...any others? | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:04 - May 4 with 639 views | Boris_ |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 15:58 - May 4 by DorsetIan |
'for a start'...any others? |
I just mentioned 3 of the 4 biggest countries in the EU.
If I need to spell out to you why we aren't doing quite as bad as you hysterical tarts on the left are trying to say then I'm wasting my breath mush.
Population density matters, which is why the death rate in England is much higher ratio to population than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland when we're all doing the same thing ( all 3 having similar density to France and Spain )
Note: I never said we are doing well, just that we're doing around the same as everyone else with the exception of Germany ( who still have their own problems though such as no PPE for their Healthcare workers ) | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:07 - May 4 with 634 views | huelinsaint |
To be honest i thought that article was a bit rich coming from one of the Centrist dicks that did all they could to prevent a Labour victory | | | |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:25 - May 4 with 616 views | saint68 |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:04 - May 4 by Boris_ |
I just mentioned 3 of the 4 biggest countries in the EU.
If I need to spell out to you why we aren't doing quite as bad as you hysterical tarts on the left are trying to say then I'm wasting my breath mush.
Population density matters, which is why the death rate in England is much higher ratio to population than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland when we're all doing the same thing ( all 3 having similar density to France and Spain )
Note: I never said we are doing well, just that we're doing around the same as everyone else with the exception of Germany ( who still have their own problems though such as no PPE for their Healthcare workers ) |
I wonder if Galicia-Ian is on a Spanish mongboard bemoaning how Portugal is doing so well...rather than actually realising there are so many individual reasons why the virus is more prominent in certain areas/countries...we've had a far greater influx of carriers to this country from around the more infected countries....that would ordinarily mean to level headed people that it would be a consequence....by being more accepting of other citizens and non uk born arrivals but still British passport holders we have by our inclusive nature spread the virus nationwide.
Still taking into account this very important factor isn't even considered by idiots that just want to apportion blame to those in government. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:29 - May 4 with 610 views | Ron11 |
With a name like Cohen on the left it's a miracle Corbyn hasn't stabbed him in the back | | | |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:33 - May 4 with 604 views | Sadoldgit |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:25 - May 4 by saint68 |
I wonder if Galicia-Ian is on a Spanish mongboard bemoaning how Portugal is doing so well...rather than actually realising there are so many individual reasons why the virus is more prominent in certain areas/countries...we've had a far greater influx of carriers to this country from around the more infected countries....that would ordinarily mean to level headed people that it would be a consequence....by being more accepting of other citizens and non uk born arrivals but still British passport holders we have by our inclusive nature spread the virus nationwide.
Still taking into account this very important factor isn't even considered by idiots that just want to apportion blame to those in government. |
I’m not sure what your point has to do with being late to lockdown, messing up PPE provisions and testing and leaving those in care homes out on a limb? |  | | |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:46 - May 4 with 592 views | saint68 |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:33 - May 4 by Sadoldgit |
I’m not sure what your point has to do with being late to lockdown, messing up PPE provisions and testing and leaving those in care homes out on a limb? |
I will reiterate that I have no intention to further converse with you due to your polarised political biased nature and inability to accept or even acknowledge the far wider and more significant challenges that this country has been subjected too.
You choose to relentlessly lambast the government for every single aspect that suits your agenda. .the fact is we are under significant pressure and are coping as is clearly possible to the best of our abilities with the provisions that are available globally ...
I really have no desire to have any more interaction with you on this subject...football related of course...but that only. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:47 - May 4 with 586 views | DorsetIan |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:04 - May 4 by Boris_ |
I just mentioned 3 of the 4 biggest countries in the EU.
If I need to spell out to you why we aren't doing quite as bad as you hysterical tarts on the left are trying to say then I'm wasting my breath mush.
Population density matters, which is why the death rate in England is much higher ratio to population than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland when we're all doing the same thing ( all 3 having similar density to France and Spain )
Note: I never said we are doing well, just that we're doing around the same as everyone else with the exception of Germany ( who still have their own problems though such as no PPE for their Healthcare workers ) |
You mentioned the three countries - Italy, Spain and France - who have also not done well. We are not doing better than them, we are at best on a par with them. In fact, we have overtaken France and Spain in terms of recorded deaths and are now only a few hundred behind Italy. Soon, we will be second only to the US.
How anyone can characterise this as anything other than bad is completely beyond me.
And, yes, additional information in the future may paint a different picture, maybe other countries have under reported, maybe we will come out of the lockdown in a sustained manner while other countries hit second peaks. Who knows. For the moment, approaching the runners up spot in the worldwide table, a bit of realism and humility wouldn't go amiss. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:06 - May 4 with 567 views | Boris_ |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:47 - May 4 by DorsetIan |
You mentioned the three countries - Italy, Spain and France - who have also not done well. We are not doing better than them, we are at best on a par with them. In fact, we have overtaken France and Spain in terms of recorded deaths and are now only a few hundred behind Italy. Soon, we will be second only to the US.
How anyone can characterise this as anything other than bad is completely beyond me.
And, yes, additional information in the future may paint a different picture, maybe other countries have under reported, maybe we will come out of the lockdown in a sustained manner while other countries hit second peaks. Who knows. For the moment, approaching the runners up spot in the worldwide table, a bit of realism and humility wouldn't go amiss. |
We are doing better than them, not that your politically biased mind will be able to process that.
Spain 544 deaths per 1 million population.
Italy 488
France 381
UK 419
Population density ( I know you are ironically dense so I will break it down after )
England 430
France 117
Spain 91
Italy 207
Now allow me to explain. You put Coronavirus in a room with the breakdown of people above. Which country do you reckon gets the most individual cases?
There are loads more factors, such as hardly any countries counting deaths in the community, yet we are. Despite loads of countries only declaring those who have died BECAUSE of Coronavirus and not simply WITH as we are.
Keep spouting your anti-tory agenda though, it won't stop Boris being in charge for the next 5 years or us leaving the EU  [Post edited 4 May 2020 17:08]
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:18 - May 4 with 560 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:33 - May 4 by Sadoldgit |
I’m not sure what your point has to do with being late to lockdown, messing up PPE provisions and testing and leaving those in care homes out on a limb? |
Zzzzzzz. The most boring man on the web ruins another thread. |  |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:28 - May 4 with 551 views | Sadoldgit |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:18 - May 4 by Occasional_Showers |
Zzzzzzz. The most boring man on the web ruins another thread. |
Isn’t it odd that only views opposing your own ruin threads? Perhaps you should join the Tory Party Internet forum and then you can spend all day patting each other on the back.
It really is very simple. Put people on ignore if you do not want to read their posts. | | | |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:28 - May 4 with 551 views | RednWight |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 16:29 - May 4 by Ron11 |
With a name like Cohen on the left it's a miracle Corbyn hasn't stabbed him in the back |
I think you’ll find that’s the other way around |  |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:32 - May 4 with 546 views | RednWight |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 14:44 - May 4 by Boris_ |
If you want to remove your political agenda ( which lefties previously used for Brexit ) where every good news story is in spite of the government and ignored ( such as increasing Ventilator and bed capacity ) and every bad news is because of the government then you might be able to look at facts?
When taking everything in to account, we are doing better than the majority of the large population European countries with the exception of Germany... although their healthcare workers don't have any PPE so swings and roundabouts huh? |
I see German doctors etc. nude on camera to highlight lack of PPE
Saw a few swings. No roundabouts [Post edited 4 May 2020 17:33]
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:45 - May 4 with 530 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:28 - May 4 by Sadoldgit |
Isn’t it odd that only views opposing your own ruin threads? Perhaps you should join the Tory Party Internet forum and then you can spend all day patting each other on the back.
It really is very simple. Put people on ignore if you do not want to read their posts. |
What’s odd is how you moan about everything all day every day. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 18:14 - May 4 with 504 views | Sadoldgit |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 17:45 - May 4 by Occasional_Showers |
What’s odd is how you moan about everything all day every day. |
Once again. Put me on ignore and you won’t have to put up with it then will you! | | | |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 19:43 - May 4 with 472 views | saint68 |
So when logic and reality are put to the fore, SOG and DopeyDorsetboy have zero to input.. just fade away and can't acknowledge the reality or condition.
Maybe blaming Boris is all they have and taking stock of the greater picture is too much for their blinkered political minds...
I'm not here to wind up , just level some perspective to the horrendous situation we are in due to ridiculous behaviour in china. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 20:01 - May 4 with 457 views | grumpy |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 18:09 - May 4 by DorsetIan |
What has Boris being in charge in five years or us leaving the EU got to do with Corona?
You’re in denial, there’s no other way to explain your complacency.
But here’s another question before I hang up my boots for the day. If it was so obvious that a densely populated country like ours would be hit hard by this, why were the scientists talking early doors about possibly less than 20,000 deaths and, why, more to the point weren’t areas of high population density locked down or social distancing introduced much much earlier? You can’t have it both ways fella.
(I won’t even ask how a densely populated country like South Korea managed to deal with this so much more effectively than we did.) |
The Government congratulating themselves is beginning get on my nerves. We are only just behind Italy and the third worst for deaths in the world. Mistakes happen and been very difficult to deal with but stop talking about how well we’re doing. |  | | |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 20:19 - May 4 with 439 views | saint68 |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 20:01 - May 4 by grumpy |
The Government congratulating themselves is beginning get on my nerves. We are only just behind Italy and the third worst for deaths in the world. Mistakes happen and been very difficult to deal with but stop talking about how well we’re doing. |
Look past the inseccant need to aportion blame and acknowledge due to our global outreach and multiculturalism we are a hub for this virus to exacerbate and cause more devastation than in any other European country...then if that slowly becomes a reality that you can accommodate...move forward and accept that due to this wonderful country being one of the most accepting and welcoming destinations on the planet that it will sadly be on the top of the list for infections globally...if you can't relate the two then there is absolutely no point in trying to lay blame...it makes you look incapable of parallel acknowledgment...and knowing you over many year's on this forum I know that is most definitely not true. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 20:20 - May 4 with 436 views | DorsetIan |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 19:43 - May 4 by saint68 |
So when logic and reality are put to the fore, SOG and DopeyDorsetboy have zero to input.. just fade away and can't acknowledge the reality or condition.
Maybe blaming Boris is all they have and taking stock of the greater picture is too much for their blinkered political minds...
I'm not here to wind up , just level some perspective to the horrendous situation we are in due to ridiculous behaviour in china. |
I had a quick look back at your posts on just this thread. I was looking for some perspective.
I found out that increased testing should reveal the true number of infections. I also found out that you had been in ill back in December.
I will pay more attention in the future - I didn't know what I was missing. | |
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| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 20:29 - May 4 with 430 views | DorsetIan |
| Antibody tests to be rolled out on 20:01 - May 4 by grumpy |
The Government congratulating themselves is beginning get on my nerves. We are only just behind Italy and the third worst for deaths in the world. Mistakes happen and been very difficult to deal with but stop talking about how well we’re doing. |
Mine too. It's all the fighting metaphors that are really getting to me. Absolutely no acknowledgement that we've become one of the worst countries in the world for this virus. It's all about our plucky struggle against the unseen assailant/street mugger/invisible killer. Ridiculous. | |
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