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The Cardiff Forum. 00:13 - Feb 7 with 9968 viewslifelong

I sometimes have a glance at their forum and came across this thread this evening, they’ve gone into ‘Could be as big as Barcelona’ mode again.
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204860
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The Cardiff Forum. on 07:14 - Feb 7 with 6303 viewsThrasher6

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The Cardiff Forum. on 07:28 - Feb 7 with 6243 viewsdickythorpe

Lifey, they've been on the space cakes yet again. They really have a complex that they aren't seen as any different up there.
Every fan will say that they belong to a unique club. But they don't understand that no one give two hoots on the outside.
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The Cardiff Forum. on 07:31 - Feb 7 with 6236 viewsMrSwerve

Blimey, imagine what they’d be like if they had the success that we’ve had over the last 8 or 9 years!

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The Cardiff Forum. on 09:31 - Feb 7 with 5934 viewsBrynmill_Jack

It’s as if the years 2011-2018 have suddenly ceased to exist. We’ve got more fans than them in their heartlands even now! We’ve also been the object of a lot of media attention/affection with the way we claimed from near footballing oblivion TWICE to the top flight, not just here but around the world. They play in blue, were the first to wear an all white kit. Unique? They’re just like any other Tom Dick and Harry also ran club playing in blue. We stand out much more in EVERY aspect.
With Barcelona they have that air of footballing romance and uniqueness. I’m not saying we are the same success wise, of course not! What we do have is that element of that football related romance about us.

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The Cardiff Forum. on 09:32 - Feb 7 with 5931 viewsProfessor

Unless there is a major change (i.e. the money stops flowing in) we have a cartel of clubs at the top. A few clubs could join them but Cardiff is a smaller city than Birmingham, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield and the argument of local population is poppycock. The total catchment area for both Swansea and Cardiff is little more than a million and a half people within an hour's travel. You could argue Wolves have Birmingham, Coventry, Warwick, Leamington, Telford, Shrewsbury, Walsall, Stafford, Stoke, Lichfield, Tamworth,Bromsgrove, Redditch and Solihull in that area-all major towns and a club who are genuinely a sleeping giant. Could do the same argument for Leeds and to a lesser extent Newcastle-or indeed any East Midlands club. Wales means little except to the welsh (I have lived in England more of my life than in Wales and we are inconsequential to most people) so the Capital City idea is again little more than hogwash. Cardiff has relatively little cultural capital-fewer museums, galleries, theatres etc. than Liverpool or Manchester despite its status.

The Premier League will chew up and spit every club out in the end (bar the top 6 and Everton). I find it hard to believe anyone else is a permanent fixture and of those West Ham and Wolves are the two most likely to break through into an elite. Bolton, Wigan, WBA, Fulham, Stoke, Swansea were all considered permanent fixtures (I know Fulham are back) but one day the time will come for Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton, Brighton etc. That is the best Cardiff can really aspire to-having a decent run. They are delusional if they believe otherwise.
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The Cardiff Forum. on 10:13 - Feb 7 with 5836 viewsmonmouth

The Cardiff Forum. on 09:31 - Feb 7 by Brynmill_Jack

It’s as if the years 2011-2018 have suddenly ceased to exist. We’ve got more fans than them in their heartlands even now! We’ve also been the object of a lot of media attention/affection with the way we claimed from near footballing oblivion TWICE to the top flight, not just here but around the world. They play in blue, were the first to wear an all white kit. Unique? They’re just like any other Tom Dick and Harry also ran club playing in blue. We stand out much more in EVERY aspect.
With Barcelona they have that air of footballing romance and uniqueness. I’m not saying we are the same success wise, of course not! What we do have is that element of that football related romance about us.


Ha ha, you're sounding a bit like them mate. We are no more special than a host of other clubs, although it felt that way for a little while.

Truth is Cardiff and Swansea are two small/middling sized clubs that have had a few special seasons in their entire history but have both mostly scrubbed around the lower divisions doing f*ck all, and in the bad times in front of very low crowds.

We have much more in common than either set of fans would want to admit, but there is something in the water up there that does seem to make many people delusional about the 'size'and importance of Cardiff, and not just the football team. It really is like little man syndrome.

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The Cardiff Forum. on 10:17 - Feb 7 with 5824 viewsmonmouth

The Cardiff Forum. on 09:32 - Feb 7 by Professor

Unless there is a major change (i.e. the money stops flowing in) we have a cartel of clubs at the top. A few clubs could join them but Cardiff is a smaller city than Birmingham, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield and the argument of local population is poppycock. The total catchment area for both Swansea and Cardiff is little more than a million and a half people within an hour's travel. You could argue Wolves have Birmingham, Coventry, Warwick, Leamington, Telford, Shrewsbury, Walsall, Stafford, Stoke, Lichfield, Tamworth,Bromsgrove, Redditch and Solihull in that area-all major towns and a club who are genuinely a sleeping giant. Could do the same argument for Leeds and to a lesser extent Newcastle-or indeed any East Midlands club. Wales means little except to the welsh (I have lived in England more of my life than in Wales and we are inconsequential to most people) so the Capital City idea is again little more than hogwash. Cardiff has relatively little cultural capital-fewer museums, galleries, theatres etc. than Liverpool or Manchester despite its status.

The Premier League will chew up and spit every club out in the end (bar the top 6 and Everton). I find it hard to believe anyone else is a permanent fixture and of those West Ham and Wolves are the two most likely to break through into an elite. Bolton, Wigan, WBA, Fulham, Stoke, Swansea were all considered permanent fixtures (I know Fulham are back) but one day the time will come for Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton, Brighton etc. That is the best Cardiff can really aspire to-having a decent run. They are delusional if they believe otherwise.


For them, a decent run would be more than one season.

You could argue they have never actually been a premier league club at all, as if you cant stay there then all you are is a club that had a good season in the championship and was never really good enough for the league above. So they should be concentrating on doing that before aiming for top 6 (rolls eyes).
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The Cardiff Forum. on 11:48 - Feb 7 with 5661 views34dfgdf54

I think they'll stay up this year.

Had a bad feeling about it for a while. Against the mid table/lower half sides they are too strong at home.
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The Cardiff Forum. on 12:11 - Feb 7 with 5589 viewsvalleyboy

The Cardiff Forum. on 09:31 - Feb 7 by Brynmill_Jack

It’s as if the years 2011-2018 have suddenly ceased to exist. We’ve got more fans than them in their heartlands even now! We’ve also been the object of a lot of media attention/affection with the way we claimed from near footballing oblivion TWICE to the top flight, not just here but around the world. They play in blue, were the first to wear an all white kit. Unique? They’re just like any other Tom Dick and Harry also ran club playing in blue. We stand out much more in EVERY aspect.
With Barcelona they have that air of footballing romance and uniqueness. I’m not saying we are the same success wise, of course not! What we do have is that element of that football related romance about us.


“We’ve got more fans than them in their heartland even now”

How delusional are you these days

You can walk around Swansea these days without seeing anyone wearing a Swansea shirt

Cardiff even though they are in the bottom three are getting 10k more attendances than Swansea ever did
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The Cardiff Forum. on 12:12 - Feb 7 with 5585 viewsDevz00

The Cardiff Forum. on 12:11 - Feb 7 by valleyboy

“We’ve got more fans than them in their heartland even now”

How delusional are you these days

You can walk around Swansea these days without seeing anyone wearing a Swansea shirt

Cardiff even though they are in the bottom three are getting 10k more attendances than Swansea ever did


and you're a Swans fan, yeah?


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The Cardiff Forum. on 12:15 - Feb 7 with 5567 viewssainthelens

The Cardiff Forum. on 12:11 - Feb 7 by valleyboy

“We’ve got more fans than them in their heartland even now”

How delusional are you these days

You can walk around Swansea these days without seeing anyone wearing a Swansea shirt

Cardiff even though they are in the bottom three are getting 10k more attendances than Swansea ever did


Fck do we need people like you !!
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The Cardiff Forum. on 12:25 - Feb 7 with 5532 viewsjack_lord

The Cardiff Forum. on 12:11 - Feb 7 by valleyboy

“We’ve got more fans than them in their heartland even now”

How delusional are you these days

You can walk around Swansea these days without seeing anyone wearing a Swansea shirt

Cardiff even though they are in the bottom three are getting 10k more attendances than Swansea ever did


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The Cardiff Forum. on 12:40 - Feb 7 with 5479 viewslifelong

The Cardiff Forum. on 12:11 - Feb 7 by valleyboy

“We’ve got more fans than them in their heartland even now”

How delusional are you these days

You can walk around Swansea these days without seeing anyone wearing a Swansea shirt

Cardiff even though they are in the bottom three are getting 10k more attendances than Swansea ever did


The Cardiff City Stadium has 10k more capacity than the Liberty...it’s not rocket science.
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The Cardiff Forum. on 13:23 - Feb 7 with 5390 viewsunion_jack

The Cardiff Forum. on 10:13 - Feb 7 by monmouth

Ha ha, you're sounding a bit like them mate. We are no more special than a host of other clubs, although it felt that way for a little while.

Truth is Cardiff and Swansea are two small/middling sized clubs that have had a few special seasons in their entire history but have both mostly scrubbed around the lower divisions doing f*ck all, and in the bad times in front of very low crowds.

We have much more in common than either set of fans would want to admit, but there is something in the water up there that does seem to make many people delusional about the 'size'and importance of Cardiff, and not just the football team. It really is like little man syndrome.


They have these delusions of grandeur because they are being led to believe that as a city they are something special. By who - WAG.

Professor us right, Wales is inconsequential in England and Cardiff no more than a medium sized town. And certainly not regarded as potentially or otherwise, a footballing powerhouse.

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The Cardiff Forum. on 13:59 - Feb 7 with 5310 viewsBrynmill_Jack

The Cardiff Forum. on 10:13 - Feb 7 by monmouth

Ha ha, you're sounding a bit like them mate. We are no more special than a host of other clubs, although it felt that way for a little while.

Truth is Cardiff and Swansea are two small/middling sized clubs that have had a few special seasons in their entire history but have both mostly scrubbed around the lower divisions doing f*ck all, and in the bad times in front of very low crowds.

We have much more in common than either set of fans would want to admit, but there is something in the water up there that does seem to make many people delusional about the 'size'and importance of Cardiff, and not just the football team. It really is like little man syndrome.


No, I’m not saying that I believe we’re bigger than Barcelona. Just staying two facts that make us different from other clubs (as small as we are) :-
1. We were the first to sport an all White kit.
2. We climbed after near footballing oblivion (re-election and then the Hull game) to the top league in the country.

Both are kind of unique aren’t they Mon?

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The Cardiff Forum. on 14:20 - Feb 7 with 5239 viewsTWGL

The Cardiff Forum. on 13:23 - Feb 7 by union_jack

They have these delusions of grandeur because they are being led to believe that as a city they are something special. By who - WAG.

Professor us right, Wales is inconsequential in England and Cardiff no more than a medium sized town. And certainly not regarded as potentially or otherwise, a footballing powerhouse.


No offence , how do you conclude it’s a medium sized town when it is 8th biggest city in the U.K and has significant population growth.

It is expected to be around 450,000 in another 5 years
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The Cardiff Forum. on 14:40 - Feb 7 with 5180 viewsThrasher6

The Cardiff Forum. on 14:20 - Feb 7 by TWGL

No offence , how do you conclude it’s a medium sized town when it is 8th biggest city in the U.K and has significant population growth.

It is expected to be around 450,000 in another 5 years
[Post edited 7 Feb 2019 14:22]


Swansea Bay City Region = 685,000

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The Cardiff Forum. on 15:17 - Feb 7 with 5120 viewsunion_jack

The Cardiff Forum. on 14:20 - Feb 7 by TWGL

No offence , how do you conclude it’s a medium sized town when it is 8th biggest city in the U.K and has significant population growth.

It is expected to be around 450,000 in another 5 years
[Post edited 7 Feb 2019 14:22]


Where do you get that from.

See link of English cities, relatively recently. Bristol in 10th with over 600k. Who is feeding you this info?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-cities-in-england.html

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The Cardiff Forum. on 15:22 - Feb 7 with 5103 viewsmonmouth

The Cardiff Forum. on 13:59 - Feb 7 by Brynmill_Jack

No, I’m not saying that I believe we’re bigger than Barcelona. Just staying two facts that make us different from other clubs (as small as we are) :-
1. We were the first to sport an all White kit.
2. We climbed after near footballing oblivion (re-election and then the Hull game) to the top league in the country.

Both are kind of unique aren’t they Mon?


I don't know mate I was only teasing you. You are nothing like them.

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The Cardiff Forum. on 15:28 - Feb 7 with 5081 viewsJoe_bradshaw

The Cardiff Forum. on 13:59 - Feb 7 by Brynmill_Jack

No, I’m not saying that I believe we’re bigger than Barcelona. Just staying two facts that make us different from other clubs (as small as we are) :-
1. We were the first to sport an all White kit.
2. We climbed after near footballing oblivion (re-election and then the Hull game) to the top league in the country.

Both are kind of unique aren’t they Mon?


Almost unique.

Burnley needed to win their last game and rely on others to lose to avoid going into the conference around the early 90s. All those things happened and look at them now.

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The Cardiff Forum. on 17:05 - Feb 7 with 4944 viewsTWGL

The Cardiff Forum. on 15:17 - Feb 7 by union_jack

Where do you get that from.

See link of English cities, relatively recently. Bristol in 10th with over 600k. Who is feeding you this info?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-cities-in-england.html


Cardiff Population Data
Year Population Growth
2025 495,378 17,751
2020 477,627 3,440
2019 474,187 13,245
2015 460,942 17,183

Bristol is 449,000 2018 figures , but the urban area is 600k

The wider urban area of Cardiff is close on 1m and they are building 45,000 new homes by 2025 hence the rapid growth projection. (Plas Dwr, areas around Lisvane and St Mellon’s )

I think Cardiff is the 11th biggest city in the Uk so I stand corrected ,but is the fastest growing city outside of London
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The Cardiff Forum. on 17:21 - Feb 7 with 4884 viewstaffpunk

I've just read the link, I don't go on there much. There's only 8 replies in two days, and three of those are basically disagreeing with the original post. So, let's get this into perspective, 5 people who post on that board could be said to agree with what the OP said. I think there's a few thousand registered on there, so hardly representative of what most CCFC supporters think, I'm sure you'd agree?

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The Cardiff Forum. on 18:08 - Feb 7 with 4787 viewsOldjack

The Cardiff Forum. on 11:48 - Feb 7 by 34dfgdf54

I think they'll stay up this year.

Had a bad feeling about it for a while. Against the mid table/lower half sides they are too strong at home.


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The Cardiff Forum. on 18:14 - Feb 7 with 4772 viewsTNT

The Cardiff Forum. on 13:59 - Feb 7 by Brynmill_Jack

No, I’m not saying that I believe we’re bigger than Barcelona. Just staying two facts that make us different from other clubs (as small as we are) :-
1. We were the first to sport an all White kit.
2. We climbed after near footballing oblivion (re-election and then the Hull game) to the top league in the country.

Both are kind of unique aren’t they Mon?


Their first kit was shit brown and puke yellow.

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The Cardiff Forum. on 18:55 - Feb 7 with 4666 viewsraynor94

The Cardiff Forum. on 15:28 - Feb 7 by Joe_bradshaw

Almost unique.

Burnley needed to win their last game and rely on others to lose to avoid going into the conference around the early 90s. All those things happened and look at them now.


Northampton town rose from the 4th division to the first in 4 seasons as well, and then went back down again

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