| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! 22:23 - Jan 21 with 21182 views | ItchySphincter |
Buckle up folks!
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 13:16 - Jan 22 with 1549 views | WarwickHunt |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 12:27 - Jan 22 by Ace_Jack |
MPs aren't delegates. They never have been. |
Pork. A prime cut.
Notoriously difficult to educate. |  | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 14:08 - Jan 22 with 1521 views | Ace_Jack |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 13:16 - Jan 22 by WarwickHunt |
Pork. A prime cut.
Notoriously difficult to educate. |
Disappointing that after 2 years of detailed debate the prime leavers have just returned to "Brexit means Brexit" but with the added caveat of "at any cost"
Why should we give brexiteers free reign to drive the country over a cliff because of the 2016 result? No deal will sink us, especially in Wales. There is zero justification for it unless those who advocate for it can demonstrate that we will be successful after its implementation.
Let the government organise a deal and if it can't pass parliament, put that deal to the people. |  | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 14:14 - Jan 22 with 1492 views | trampie |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 14:08 - Jan 22 by Ace_Jack |
Disappointing that after 2 years of detailed debate the prime leavers have just returned to "Brexit means Brexit" but with the added caveat of "at any cost"
Why should we give brexiteers free reign to drive the country over a cliff because of the 2016 result? No deal will sink us, especially in Wales. There is zero justification for it unless those who advocate for it can demonstrate that we will be successful after its implementation.
Let the government organise a deal and if it can't pass parliament, put that deal to the people. |
But its Labour and Labour supporters wish and fault, Plaid have tried educating Labour in Wales but Labour continue to side with the Conservatives which is usual these days for the Labour party, the real opposition to the Government in Westminster is Plaid and the SNP and not the Labour party. |  |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 14:42 - Jan 22 with 1494 views | ItchySphincter |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 08:34 - Jan 22 by trinityann |
Both sides were spouting drivel in main media. Everything that has happened since has been orchestrated by politicians wanting to stay in EU. If there is a second referendum what is the point in voting in the future, If they are not happy with the voters they will just manipulate a different outcome. |
Well no. A vote now would be a vote on something vaguely tangible on not driven by a bunch of old farts who don’t like brown people.  | |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 14:45 - Jan 22 with 1490 views | Ace_Jack |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 14:14 - Jan 22 by trampie |
But its Labour and Labour supporters wish and fault, Plaid have tried educating Labour in Wales but Labour continue to side with the Conservatives which is usual these days for the Labour party, the real opposition to the Government in Westminster is Plaid and the SNP and not the Labour party. |
OMG TRAMP. You've just fixed Brexit, and Wales, and politics. What a cracking f**king insight. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 21:10 - Jan 22 with 1399 views | sherpajacob |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! (n/t) on 12:23 - Jan 22 by howenjack |
A large majority of mps have forgotten the main purpose of their roles in parliament is to represent the views of their constituents.That mp is their one and only voice in parliament.The people who elected them have in many cases felt let down and betrayed. The term right honourable member was never more in question , quite apart from the moral failings of certain labour members highlighted in the press recently. |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 21:36 - Jan 22 with 1369 views | sg1912 |
Remainers conveniently forget that 80% of the electorate voted for parties that stated we would leave on WTO terms in their manifestos..
This is just another desperate attempt to subvert democracy |  | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 21:54 - Jan 22 with 1353 views | WarwickHunt |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 21:36 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
Remainers conveniently forget that 80% of the electorate voted for parties that stated we would leave on WTO terms in their manifestos..
This is just another desperate attempt to subvert democracy |
Amazing considering that only 72% of the electorate voted. | | | |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:14 - Jan 22 with 1337 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 21:54 - Jan 22 by WarwickHunt |
Amazing considering that only 72% of the electorate voted. |
Regardless, my point still stands..
.. and your inability to dispute that fact is evident. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:34 - Jan 22 with 1322 views | exiledclaseboy |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 21:36 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
Remainers conveniently forget that 80% of the electorate voted for parties that stated we would leave on WTO terms in their manifestos..
This is just another desperate attempt to subvert democracy |
No they didn’t. Look at the manifestos again. |  |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:40 - Jan 22 with 1316 views | WarwickHunt |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:34 - Jan 22 by exiledclaseboy |
No they didn’t. Look at the manifestos again. |
Again?  | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:40 - Jan 22 with 1313 views | exiledclaseboy |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:40 - Jan 22 by WarwickHunt |
Again? |
Yeah fair point. | |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:41 - Jan 22 with 1312 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:34 - Jan 22 by exiledclaseboy |
No they didn’t. Look at the manifestos again. |
They did actually..
Labour stated “Labour is committed to the rules-based system of the World Trade Organisation (WTO)”
.. and the Conservatives pledged “.. we will no longer be members of the Single Market or Customs Union “.. therefore their default position is WTO. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:42 - Jan 22 with 1310 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:40 - Jan 22 by WarwickHunt |
Again? |
Well obviously you two haven’t read them? | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:49 - Jan 22 with 1292 views | exiledclaseboy |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:41 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
They did actually..
Labour stated “Labour is committed to the rules-based system of the World Trade Organisation (WTO)”
.. and the Conservatives pledged “.. we will no longer be members of the Single Market or Customs Union “.. therefore their default position is WTO. |
I love context. Other quotes from labour’s manifesto.
“The EU accounts for 44 per cent of our current exports and will continue to be a priority trading partner. As our trading relationship with the EU changes it is vital that we retain unrestricted access for our goods and services.”
“We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single ô°€arket and the Customs Union — whichare essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first.”
“Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and if needs be negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ô°cliff-edge’ for the economy.” | |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:52 - Jan 22 with 1289 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:49 - Jan 22 by exiledclaseboy |
I love context. Other quotes from labour’s manifesto.
“The EU accounts for 44 per cent of our current exports and will continue to be a priority trading partner. As our trading relationship with the EU changes it is vital that we retain unrestricted access for our goods and services.”
“We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single ô°€arket and the Customs Union — whichare essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first.”
“Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and if needs be negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ô°cliff-edge’ for the economy.” |
Can we not trade with the EU under WTO terms then? 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
You’ve had a mare here. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:55 - Jan 22 with 1280 views | WarwickHunt |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:52 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
Can we not trade with the EU under WTO terms then? 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
You’ve had a mare here. |
Fûck me - we’ve got a live one here!
😂😂😂 | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 23:22 - Jan 22 with 1261 views | Ace_Jack |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:52 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
Can we not trade with the EU under WTO terms then? 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
You’ve had a mare here. |
Oh you must be the smart brexiteer... | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 23:57 - Jan 22 with 1249 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 23:22 - Jan 22 by Ace_Jack |
Oh you must be the smart brexiteer... |
You and your mate above you have literally made no counter argument..
Even when I present indisputable evidence you still revert to petty name calling.. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 04:26 - Jan 23 with 1196 views | CarlHeggs |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 23:57 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
You and your mate above you have literally made no counter argument..
Even when I present indisputable evidence you still revert to petty name calling.. |
I mean where to start?
You said that 80% of the electorate voted for parties that said, in their manifesto, we'd leave on WTO terms (i.e. No Deal). We'll ignore that dubious figure.
You were then provided with quotes from the Labour manifesto in which they said that they'd be seeking a deal that would retain the benefits of the customs union and single market- about the softest Brexit imaginable with trade between the UK and the EU remaining on its current terms. They explicitly said that No Deal (leaving on WTO terms) was not an option.
The Conservative manifesto said that we'd be leaving the customs union and single market, but said "as we leave the EU, we want to negotiate...free trade between the UK and the EU's member states". Again, about as far from leaving on WTO terms as possible.
And faced with evidence, in the form of policies the Labour manifesto, that are entirely contrary to your bullshit statements, you say that no one has presented a counter argument. It's like you genuinely don't comprehend the words you're reading.
Honestly, I know everyone has different opinions on Brexit, but if you think that retaining the benefits of the customs union and single market = leaving on WTO terms, then I absolutely dispair that someone can have so little understanding of the issue after 3 years of this stuff... [Post edited 23 Jan 2019 4:34]
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 07:20 - Jan 23 with 1180 views | WarwickHunt |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 23:57 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
You and your mate above you have literally made no counter argument..
Even when I present indisputable evidence you still revert to petty name calling.. |
Probably because the only “indisputable evidence” you provide is that you’re a fûcking idiot. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 07:40 - Jan 23 with 1170 views | waynekerr55 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 22:52 - Jan 22 by sg1912 |
Can we not trade with the EU under WTO terms then? 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
You’ve had a mare here. |
We can but it's (a) more costly and (b) more beaurocratic |  |
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| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 09:10 - Jan 23 with 1118 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 07:20 - Jan 23 by WarwickHunt |
Probably because the only “indisputable evidence” you provide is that you’re a fûcking idiot. |
How can links to manifestos that 80% voted for, make me ‘a fcking idiot’?
Perhaps you’re the ‘fckin idiot’ for not understanding what you voted for? | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 09:11 - Jan 23 with 1117 views | sg1912 |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 07:40 - Jan 23 by waynekerr55 |
We can but it's (a) more costly and (b) more beaurocratic |
It’s still what people voted for. | | | |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 09:17 - Jan 23 with 1114 views | ItchySphincter |
| BREAKING!! Corbyn endorses campaign for second EU referendum! on 09:11 - Jan 23 by sg1912 |
It’s still what people voted for. |
I think people here might be inviting you to clarify the difference between WTO terms, aka 'no deal', and .....erm....'no deal'?
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