| Interview with the Owners 19:05 - Sep 3 with 45689 views | Headmaster |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45396360
"Swansea City's owners have warned it could take years for the club to return to the Premier League as they confront the "harsh reality" of relegation." [Post edited 3 Sep 2018 19:08]
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:11 - Sep 3 with 15740 views | Oldjack |
we're not asking for the earth but Potter needs backing you tight arse bastards |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:18 - Sep 3 with 15682 views | Dr_Winston |
No doubt there will be many dissenters but a lot of that rings true for me. We were very expensively run for a club with our non-TV money income, and losing a massive chunk of the Sky cash was always going to cause us big, big difficulties.
Problem is the people responsible for so woefully mismanaging the situation in the first place are still in position. Making sure that the likes of Jenkins and Dineen are no longer involved in the club would go a long way towards getting some of the fans back on board.
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:20 - Sep 3 with 15663 views | waynekerr55 |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:18 - Sep 3 by Dr_Winston |
No doubt there will be many dissenters but a lot of that rings true for me. We were very expensively run for a club with our non-TV money income, and losing a massive chunk of the Sky cash was always going to cause us big, big difficulties.
Problem is the people responsible for so woefully mismanaging the situation in the first place are still in position. Making sure that the likes of Jenkins and Dineen are no longer involved in the club would go a long way towards getting some of the fans back on board.
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We owe Huw a debt of gratitude
8m quid plus 10k per week not enough then |  |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:21 - Sep 3 with 15646 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Reading between the lines the Trust have an interesting role to play. |  |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:27 - Sep 3 with 15598 views | marchamjack |
We don’t want the lawyers in the room when we sit down with The Trust and the former owners...no I bet you don’t...
More weasel words overall and no actions
They’ve lucked out with Potter and the kids stepping up, so far
At least they’re honest enough to say they’ve put none of their own money in. Hopefully the one-eyed happy clappers will finally see it now |  |
| Oh,..Dave, what's occuring? |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:27 - Sep 3 with 15594 views | Al_Bundy |
We consulted Jenkins about signing Woods !??!
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:27 - Sep 3 with 15584 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:18 - Sep 3 by Dr_Winston |
No doubt there will be many dissenters but a lot of that rings true for me. We were very expensively run for a club with our non-TV money income, and losing a massive chunk of the Sky cash was always going to cause us big, big difficulties.
Problem is the people responsible for so woefully mismanaging the situation in the first place are still in position. Making sure that the likes of Jenkins and Dineen are no longer involved in the club would go a long way towards getting some of the fans back on board.
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Agree with that, there's an argument that without the short term loans from the Americans we would not have spent so heavily/badly in the last couple of years.
Something has gone badly wrong with the planning and transition following relegation the Woods transfer sounds like a real saga and we've got imbalances in the squad.
By selling to the Americans, the decision making has been passed over the Atlantic for only personal gain by the old board; no investment.
One question missed what's the rate on the short term loans?
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:29 - Sep 3 with 15551 views | waynekerr55 |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:27 - Sep 3 by marchamjack |
We don’t want the lawyers in the room when we sit down with The Trust and the former owners...no I bet you don’t...
More weasel words overall and no actions
They’ve lucked out with Potter and the kids stepping up, so far
At least they’re honest enough to say they’ve put none of their own money in. Hopefully the one-eyed happy clappers will finally see it now |
Well I for one hope the Trust insist upon it. We wouldn't want one of Huws inaccurate meeting records again, would we? | |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:31 - Sep 3 with 15518 views | TenbySwan |
I have read this through and my thoughts are that I just don't trust them.
What they say and what they do are two different things.
Q. Have you put money into the club
A . Yes, and reading between the lines, we have had it all back.
We are still paying for transfers we made in the past. - so where has all the money gone?
We have players on loan here, there and everywhere.
Perhaps they will issue a FULL set of independently audited accounts out to prove what the situation is.
The sellouts have put us in this position
Support the boys , - FECK the board! |  | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:35 - Sep 3 with 15463 views | hobo |
wtf is this all about??
"Having budgeted for much more, the Swans received a combined total of only around £30m for the departures of defenders Alfie Mawson and Federico Fernandez, forward Jordan Ayew, centre-backs Jordi Amat and Kyle Bartley, midfielder Sam Clucas and goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski.
That combined figure is around £15m less than the sum of the fees widely reported for those players."
Do they mean we only received £30m this season, with further payments to be received in future seasons?
Surely there's no way we'd only sell that lot for £30m? That's abysmal even by the board's standards. Other clubs would have sold Mawson alone for that amount |  | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:35 - Sep 3 with 15462 views | thornabyswan |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:21 - Sep 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Reading between the lines the Trust have an interesting role to play. |
Yes they will try and get the Trust onside and then hope to get the fans onside.
Looks like they are not going anywhere just yet. | |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:36 - Sep 3 with 15448 views | N_T_J |
Nice to see they were doing their due diligence |  | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:37 - Sep 3 with 15436 views | BillyChong |
In terms of that money you put in, does it return to you once those payments come in? Is there a requirement for that money to come back to you out of the football club?
JL: "If we did not have that money back then it would be equity. We would be putting equity in, we have not done that. If we put equity in then there would be no requirement for it to come back to us. Up to now, we have said that they are advances to the club that banks will not give us, and we are ready to step in and do that." | | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:42 - Sep 3 with 15373 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:37 - Sep 3 by BillyChong |
In terms of that money you put in, does it return to you once those payments come in? Is there a requirement for that money to come back to you out of the football club?
JL: "If we did not have that money back then it would be equity. We would be putting equity in, we have not done that. If we put equity in then there would be no requirement for it to come back to us. Up to now, we have said that they are advances to the club that banks will not give us, and we are ready to step in and do that." |
And what rate do they charge? | |
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| Interview with the Owners on 19:44 - Sep 3 with 15339 views | angryjack |
I felt physically sick reading that also anger,I would love to just hurt the kants badly just short of death the kants | | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:44 - Sep 3 with 15340 views | 3swan |
"The American businessmen have also revealed they are considering putting equity into the club - by buying more shares, possibly from the Supporters' Trust - in order to help absorb losses related to relegation."
Am I missing something here?
Isn't that just buying shares (transfer from the Trust to them)? so not extra money for the club.
Also is that just another way of glossing over the 5%? that they offered to buy from the Trust and then delayed. | | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:48 - Sep 3 with 15293 views | stAteSwan |
I want to see a full release of the audited financial records from the past two years. They can sit there and admit they made mistakes all they want, but when you have supporters open accusing you of pocketing money meant from the club, that person would surely want to clear their name...surely?
Also, they will never sack Jenkins. He's a perfect scapegoat. The minute Levien/Kaplan made that decision, they are essentially admitting every mistake from there on out is strictly on them. That could be a problem if this season does not turn out well. | | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:52 - Sep 3 with 15249 views | JethroJack |
For some weird reason, these 2 Yanks are a lot more tolerant of repeated incompetence that your average American businessman, otherwise HJ would have been on his bike long ago. |  | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:52 - Sep 3 with 15248 views | jack247 |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:35 - Sep 3 by hobo |
wtf is this all about??
"Having budgeted for much more, the Swans received a combined total of only around £30m for the departures of defenders Alfie Mawson and Federico Fernandez, forward Jordan Ayew, centre-backs Jordi Amat and Kyle Bartley, midfielder Sam Clucas and goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski.
That combined figure is around £15m less than the sum of the fees widely reported for those players."
Do they mean we only received £30m this season, with further payments to be received in future seasons?
Surely there's no way we'd only sell that lot for £30m? That's abysmal even by the board's standards. Other clubs would have sold Mawson alone for that amount |
I think one of their biggest problems was heavily overestimating what we’d get for those players as a relegated club who were plainly desperate to offload.
The £45m sounds about right, conservative if anything. Very rough figures, but Mawson - £20m, Fernandez - £8m, Fabianski, Clucas, Mesa £6m each, plus Bartley, Amat and whatever loan fees we got for the Ayews and Borja | | | |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:54 - Sep 3 with 15226 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:48 - Sep 3 by stAteSwan |
I want to see a full release of the audited financial records from the past two years. They can sit there and admit they made mistakes all they want, but when you have supporters open accusing you of pocketing money meant from the club, that person would surely want to clear their name...surely?
Also, they will never sack Jenkins. He's a perfect scapegoat. The minute Levien/Kaplan made that decision, they are essentially admitting every mistake from there on out is strictly on them. That could be a problem if this season does not turn out well. |
As one of my old CEOs used to say always have someone covering the big risks, Jenkins is covering reputational, legal and potentially financial risks. | |
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| Interview with the Owners on 20:02 - Sep 3 with 15128 views | _ |
That's an extremely fair and open statement and backs up what most rational fans have been saying since relegation.
We should be encouraged by it and jump on board with the exciting changes happening at the Club.
Time to move on and support. |  |
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| Interview with the Owners on 20:05 - Sep 3 with 15101 views | monmouth |
| Interview with the Owners on 19:44 - Sep 3 by 3swan |
"The American businessmen have also revealed they are considering putting equity into the club - by buying more shares, possibly from the Supporters' Trust - in order to help absorb losses related to relegation."
Am I missing something here?
Isn't that just buying shares (transfer from the Trust to them)? so not extra money for the club.
Also is that just another way of glossing over the 5%? that they offered to buy from the Trust and then delayed. |
Equity instead of loans to cover a financial hole?
This all has a very bad feel. I'm wondering about the motivation at the moment though. Is it to try and publicly blame the Trust if they take the shithouses to court? "The legal action means that we can't fund working capital and the club is at risk".
Buying shares off the Trust brings no new money into the club and gives them no benefit so they would only offer again if they were pretty sure they would lose in court.
As a club, we are a state. The Trust has never needed to be at the top of its game so desperately. [Post edited 3 Sep 2018 20:08]
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| Interview with the Owners on 20:06 - Sep 3 with 15095 views | Oldjack |
| Interview with the Owners on 20:02 - Sep 3 by _ |
That's an extremely fair and open statement and backs up what most rational fans have been saying since relegation.
We should be encouraged by it and jump on board with the exciting changes happening at the Club.
Time to move on and support. |
bollocks ! theses bastards are tarting this up like we haven't got a pot to piss in ,the figures speak differently ,and why hasn't your mate taken a pay cut ,it;s not as if he can't afford it | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Interview with the Owners on 20:06 - Sep 3 with 15095 views | Flashberryjack |
That interview will have cost us about 20% of our season ticket sales for next season.
Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot" |  |
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| Interview with the Owners on 20:07 - Sep 3 with 15077 views | jack2jack |
Surely it won't take years, only took em two years to get us out of it.(Alright calm down).
Can we trust them to rebuild that's the question! |  | | |
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