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TOMMY ROBINSON 07:42 - May 26 with 74581 viewsgetcarter

Not a fan but his arrest yesterday challenges freedom of speech.

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 07:59 - May 26 with 13691 viewsSirjohnalot

Just read that there are reporting restrictions in place so I’ve removed my comment
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 10:54 - May 26 with 13520 viewstheloneranger

It's a a disgrace and a shame on the British justice system if it's true what's going on behind closed doors.


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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 11:01 - May 26 with 13496 viewsTheResurrection

Hope he never sees the light of day again, the utter self serving kunt.

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 11:11 - May 26 with 13451 viewsDarran

Lets be honest here Robinson is nothing but an antagonistic prick sticking his beak in things that are no business of his own.

What happened yesterday is an utter disgrace though. I saw the video on twitter and honestly couldn’t believe what I was seeing.

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 11:31 - May 26 with 13425 viewsdickythorpe

What has he done?
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:10 - May 26 with 13374 viewsSirjohnalot

TOMMY ROBINSON on 10:54 - May 26 by theloneranger

It's a a disgrace and a shame on the British justice system if it's true what's going on behind closed doors.


EDIT

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-
[Post edited 26 May 2018 10:56]


It's nothing to do with things going on behind closed doors, its because the case that he was reporting on is still on going.

Therefore any reporting on his case could affect the ongoing trial. After the ongoing trial finishes, it will be reported

Makes perfect sense.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:24 - May 26 with 13339 viewstheloneranger

TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:10 - May 26 by Sirjohnalot

It's nothing to do with things going on behind closed doors, its because the case that he was reporting on is still on going.

Therefore any reporting on his case could affect the ongoing trial. After the ongoing trial finishes, it will be reported

Makes perfect sense.


So taking Robinson out of the equation, do all major trials ban reporting until the trial is completed??
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:42 - May 26 with 13306 viewsHighjack

TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:10 - May 26 by Sirjohnalot

It's nothing to do with things going on behind closed doors, its because the case that he was reporting on is still on going.

Therefore any reporting on his case could affect the ongoing trial. After the ongoing trial finishes, it will be reported

Makes perfect sense.


Apparantly was filming members of the jury entering the court as well.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:49 - May 26 with 13282 viewsHighjack

TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:24 - May 26 by theloneranger

So taking Robinson out of the equation, do all major trials ban reporting until the trial is completed??
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I imagine in cases of grooming and rape there are a lot of interests surrounding confidentiality and witness protection which results in curbs of journalistic freedoms.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:50 - May 26 with 13273 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:49 - May 26 by Highjack

I imagine in cases of grooming and rape there are a lot of interests surrounding confidentiality and witness protection which results in curbs of journalistic freedoms.


Indeed there are


He’s thick as pig sh!t

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:42 - May 26 with 13202 viewsSirjohnalot

TOMMY ROBINSON on 12:24 - May 26 by theloneranger

So taking Robinson out of the equation, do all major trials ban reporting until the trial is completed??
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No. Reporting is one thing. I am not going to comment on this case but, what you are not allowed to do is to put things in the public media , eg opinions on the on going case as that may influence jurors if they see it

Jurors are told that they cannot discuss the case with their family, friends, eg, only amongst themselves when the case has finished. Obviously if someone were to comment on a case, giving their opinions, putting it on social media, family, friends of the jury may see it and increase the risk of a fair trial not happening.

That is different to reporting on the facts of the case as it is happening in court,
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:44 - May 26 with 13194 viewsomarjack

Freedom of speech is believing that even your worst enemies have the right to speak their minds.

He should be allowed to be a semi-illiterate trashy c*nt..And I should be allowed to call him that :)
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:48 - May 26 with 13177 viewsLord_Bony

TOMMY ROBINSON on 11:31 - May 26 by dickythorpe

What has he done?


Well this classic for a start...


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TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:55 - May 26 with 13160 viewsNeath_Jack

TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:42 - May 26 by Sirjohnalot

No. Reporting is one thing. I am not going to comment on this case but, what you are not allowed to do is to put things in the public media , eg opinions on the on going case as that may influence jurors if they see it

Jurors are told that they cannot discuss the case with their family, friends, eg, only amongst themselves when the case has finished. Obviously if someone were to comment on a case, giving their opinions, putting it on social media, family, friends of the jury may see it and increase the risk of a fair trial not happening.

That is different to reporting on the facts of the case as it is happening in court,


In today's social media driven world, try finding me an on-going case that isn't being dissected to the nth degree online.

It is definitely something that is impossible to control.

But it's the same as many things in life, authorities choose who they will target.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:59 - May 26 with 13143 viewsSirjohnalot

TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:55 - May 26 by Neath_Jack

In today's social media driven world, try finding me an on-going case that isn't being dissected to the nth degree online.

It is definitely something that is impossible to control.

But it's the same as many things in life, authorities choose who they will target.


I agree, but there’s a difference between Joe from Penarth discussIng it with his 3 mates and another person who has 100,000 odd plus people supporting and following what they say.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:59 - May 26 with 13142 viewsHighjack

TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:44 - May 26 by omarjack

Freedom of speech is believing that even your worst enemies have the right to speak their minds.

He should be allowed to be a semi-illiterate trashy c*nt..And I should be allowed to call him that :)
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Exactly right

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:01 - May 26 with 13139 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

He was also on a suspended sentence

He’s a Facking idiot

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:12 - May 26 with 13118 viewscontroversial_jack

He was arrested for preventing a breech of the peace. It didn't even come close to breeching the peace.I can't stand him, but those police were out of order
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:22 - May 26 with 13102 viewsDr_Winston

AS I understand it there are a number of interlinked proceedings. Reportage of one could ultimately conflict with the others, hence the media blackout, hence Robinson getting lifted for trying to breach that. It's f*ckall to do with freedom of speech.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:23 - May 26 with 13096 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:22 - May 26 by Dr_Winston

AS I understand it there are a number of interlinked proceedings. Reportage of one could ultimately conflict with the others, hence the media blackout, hence Robinson getting lifted for trying to breach that. It's f*ckall to do with freedom of speech.


Correct
It’s the law
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:24 - May 26 with 13093 viewsSirjohnalot

TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:22 - May 26 by Dr_Winston

AS I understand it there are a number of interlinked proceedings. Reportage of one could ultimately conflict with the others, hence the media blackout, hence Robinson getting lifted for trying to breach that. It's f*ckall to do with freedom of speech.


Exactly right.

As I said above, as soon as the other trial concludes, it will be reported.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:28 - May 26 with 13075 viewsexiledclaseboy

TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:22 - May 26 by Dr_Winston

AS I understand it there are a number of interlinked proceedings. Reportage of one could ultimately conflict with the others, hence the media blackout, hence Robinson getting lifted for trying to breach that. It's f*ckall to do with freedom of speech.


Sense. Robinson’s disciples are nauseating in their devotion to the c*nt.

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TOMMY ROBINSON on 14:38 - May 26 with 13052 viewsNeath_Jack

TOMMY ROBINSON on 13:59 - May 26 by Sirjohnalot

I agree, but there’s a difference between Joe from Penarth discussIng it with his 3 mates and another person who has 100,000 odd plus people supporting and following what they say.


We've has hundreds if not thousands of posts on here, on any given high profile case, Ched Evans for example. So why isn't that particular blackout observed by those in position, for example, the owner of this website (And thousands of others of the same ilk).

I'm in no way trying to defend that goon by the way. He's a vile bloke, who appeals to the Daily Mail readers and facebook types who go by the middle names of "Madbloke", "Onamission", "Yummymummy", etc, etc.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 15:39 - May 26 with 12967 viewsSirjohnalot

Yes, and I’ve said exactly the same on those threads too that they should not be discussed (as far as opinions on guilt etc) when the trial is ongoing. In theory, as soon as a person is charged,

I’ve prosecuted and defended cases which have been in the paper and some of the public discussion bared no resemblance to what was happening in court or any of the details of the case. How on earth could anyone realistically have an opinion on a verdict unless they were in court and watched it ?
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TOMMY ROBINSON on 16:12 - May 26 with 12909 viewsBadlands

The opinions he expressed could have been expressed in other situations and he would have been entitled to express them - but he chose to act as he has in breach of the law, knowing he was breaking the law and knowing it would get him publicity.

Freedom of speech only extends to being with the law.

If you believe freedom of speech is the freedom to say anything, anywhere and to anybody you are advocating a completely lawless society. It would mean pedophiles could groom children under the 'freedom of speech'; people could come up to you (me, your loved ones or anyone) in the street and hurl vicious abuse at them under 'freedom of speech'; women could be propositioned and verbally abused at work (in the street, on the doorstep) under 'freedom of speech'.

Our police and legal system has gone soft and should put thugs like Robinson and his religious counterpart in the dock.

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