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Embarrassing... 23:08 - Aug 5 with 9224 viewsMorSwan

Just read that all looks agreed for Ayew to join West Ham...

I am honestly quite embarrassed that we're selling arguably our best player to one of our rivals.

Yeah, we may be getting a lot for him but what's money like that if we aren't going to spend it on someone better? Borja Baston's been linked, everybody seems satisfied.

Llorente is a decent signing but it won't be enough to take us to the next level. Probably our first summer since we've been in the Premier League where we've had a chance to take the club to the next level on the pitch and we've sat back and watched it walk past.

I'm honestly gutted and disappointed that we are willing to let Ayew go off to West Ham.

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Embarrassing... on 23:10 - Aug 5 with 5566 viewsNeathJack

Where is this next level you speak of?

Baston scored 18 goals in 36 games last season in La Liga.
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Embarrassing... on 23:11 - Aug 5 with 5558 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Do you not consider Borja's 18 goals in 36 games in La Liga last season a good return?

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Embarrassing... on 23:12 - Aug 5 with 5521 viewslondonlisa2001

Baston scored 18 goals in La Liga last year which is certainly not equivalent to League 1.

If we bring him in together with Llorente and a wide player I'd have no problems in Ayew going if we get good value for him.
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Embarrassing... on 23:13 - Aug 5 with 5514 viewsDarran

18 goals.

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Embarrassing... on 23:14 - Aug 5 with 5493 viewsLandore_Jack

What's the point in keeping an unhappy player? We need players here who want to play for the Swans. My disappointment will be if we sell him for less than £25M. He obviously needs to be replaced with quality. Chadli would be a good replacement.

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Embarrassing... on 23:14 - Aug 5 with 5495 viewsGriffting

Just for the record, Baston scored 18 in 36 last year in a team that finished 14th in la liga.

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Embarrassing... on 23:19 - Aug 5 with 5438 viewsGriffting

Embarrassing... on 23:12 - Aug 5 by londonlisa2001

Baston scored 18 goals in La Liga last year which is certainly not equivalent to League 1.

If we bring him in together with Llorente and a wide player I'd have no problems in Ayew going if we get good value for him.


Agree. An Ayew who does not wish to be here replaced with Llorente, Baston and Chadli would be pretty good business for me. About as sick as Ayew speculation as I am of seeing Pogba's never ending transfer to man Utd.
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Embarrassing... on 23:30 - Aug 5 with 5335 viewsLoyal

Embarrassing... on 23:11 - Aug 5 by Joe_bradshaw

Do you not consider Borja's 18 goals in 36 games in La Liga last season a good return?


Better than Ayew all round.

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Embarrassing... on 23:51 - Aug 5 with 5233 viewsmax936

Embarrassing... on 23:30 - Aug 5 by Loyal

Better than Ayew all round.


I'd love to see Chadli here also, he'd be a superb signing, Pochettino doesn't really fancy him up at Spurs, but he'd be first choice here, I wonder if Siggy can have a word

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Embarrassing... on 00:34 - Aug 6 with 5072 viewsclloy2

Have to say, just watched Baston's goals last season for Eibar. Looks the real deal for me, comfortable in and around the six yard box, nipping in in front of defenders to get on the end of crosses to finish, and also scoring spectacular goals with shots outside the box. Reminded me of a certain M, Michue. Go check em out , his record speaks for itself. I think Baston should be our starter and Llorente supporting probably off the bench. Huw get the deal done
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Embarrassing... on 01:36 - Aug 6 with 4952 viewsSwansNZ

Embarrassing... on 23:10 - Aug 5 by NeathJack

Where is this next level you speak of?

Baston scored 18 goals in 36 games last season in La Liga.
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There is no next level, unless they are talking about regular European qualification, which is stupid. Next level is just PR bullsh1t put out by the shareholders, as a reason to sell (for "investment").

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Embarrassing... on 01:43 - Aug 6 with 4928 viewsNeathJack

Embarrassing... on 01:36 - Aug 6 by SwansNZ

There is no next level, unless they are talking about regular European qualification, which is stupid. Next level is just PR bullsh1t put out by the shareholders, as a reason to sell (for "investment").


Exactly.
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Embarrassing... on 07:20 - Aug 6 with 4637 viewsWatchman

lovely player

but would you start him ahead of Llorente up front or Siggy in midfield plus he has not got the overall extra gear to play out wide

lovely squad player but no specialist position

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Embarrassing... on 07:25 - Aug 6 with 4621 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Embarrassing... on 07:20 - Aug 6 by Watchman

lovely player

but would you start him ahead of Llorente up front or Siggy in midfield plus he has not got the overall extra gear to play out wide

lovely squad player but no specialist position


At 31, it may not end up being wise to try to force more than 25 matches out of Llorente, even if he is our preferred striker. We shall see, but that needs to be considered.

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Embarrassing... on 07:37 - Aug 6 with 4548 viewsAnotherJohn

I'd be pleased if we got Llorente and Baston, and I wouldn't be too devastated if we replaced Ayew with Chadli. But what I don't get is the failure to appreciate that there is a risk involved. Goals in La Liga do not always translate into goals in the EPL. There have been plenty of flops in the past, and Llorente in particular has gone through a difficult spell. The reason there is interest in Ayew is that he has a recent track record of delivering on EPL goals. Over time clubs that buy on known track record are likely to do better than clubs that gamble - and they are willing to pay a premium to reduce uncertainty. Naturally I hope that our gamble pays off this time, and I hope we make West Ham pay the premium that is due.
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Embarrassing... on 07:54 - Aug 6 with 4486 viewsclloy2

How much will Baston cost- Anyone know
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Embarrassing... on 07:54 - Aug 6 with 4482 viewsWatchman

Embarrassing... on 07:25 - Aug 6 by Tummer_from_Texas

At 31, it may not end up being wise to try to force more than 25 matches out of Llorente, even if he is our preferred striker. We shall see, but that needs to be considered.


thats where the other forwards we buy will be important. I can see 3-5-2 on the horizon.
#9 will not be running around too much so that secondary striker is all important and important that he fits!

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Embarrassing... on 07:59 - Aug 6 with 4465 viewsSwaneeRiver

I really like Ayew and wish we'd keep him - if he wants to stay.
However if he does go then we have to get a decent price for him. £15 - £20 million isn't a decent price
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Embarrassing... on 08:33 - Aug 6 with 4326 viewsjasper_T

Embarrassing... on 07:54 - Aug 6 by Watchman

thats where the other forwards we buy will be important. I can see 3-5-2 on the horizon.
#9 will not be running around too much so that secondary striker is all important and important that he fits!


We haven't got enough CBs for 3 at the back, and Guidolin has repeatedly stated we won't be using it.
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Embarrassing... on 08:39 - Aug 6 with 4279 viewsMurph75

Embarrassing... on 08:33 - Aug 6 by jasper_T

We haven't got enough CBs for 3 at the back, and Guidolin has repeatedly stated we won't be using it.


Technically we do.
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Embarrassing... on 09:59 - Aug 6 with 3986 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Embarrassing... on 08:33 - Aug 6 by jasper_T

We haven't got enough CBs for 3 at the back, and Guidolin has repeatedly stated we won't be using it.


We haven't finished shopping yet I reckon. I wouldn't rule out anything with Guido. He's tactically very flexible, we didn't see that much variation last season because we were just focussed on staying up last season.

I reckon FG will surprise a lot of people this season and I'm mildly optimistic, especially if we get Borja, Chadli and a good RB in.

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Embarrassing... on 10:00 - Aug 6 with 3969 viewsStarsky

Embarrassing... on 09:59 - Aug 6 by Brynmill_Jack

We haven't finished shopping yet I reckon. I wouldn't rule out anything with Guido. He's tactically very flexible, we didn't see that much variation last season because we were just focussed on staying up last season.

I reckon FG will surprise a lot of people this season and I'm mildly optimistic, especially if we get Borja, Chadli and a good RB in.


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Embarrassing... on 10:03 - Aug 6 with 3935 viewsItchySphincter

Our team fell apart with Ayew all over the place. He gets credited with 12 goals in a low scoring side without anyone coming out and saying he is one of the reasons we are a low scoring side, despite his personal return. Nothing against him but he's not a great player for us and I'll be happy to see him gone.

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Embarrassing... on 10:04 - Aug 6 with 3929 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Embarrassing... on 10:00 - Aug 6 by Starsky

& Chico!


Now you're talking. Could definitely play 3 at the back with Chico back.

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Embarrassing... on 10:08 - Aug 6 with 3887 viewsClinton

Embarrassing... on 10:00 - Aug 6 by Starsky

& Chico!


Id love to see Chico back. I thought he was vastly underrated. I can't understand why he has never been picked up by another PL club.

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