| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport 07:56 - Mar 22 with 26534 views | bosh67 |
Numbers injured, just up on the news. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:57 - Mar 22 with 1914 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:46 - Mar 22 by Maggsinho |
I'm no expert but I would imagine they're looking at increased intelligence sharing between nations, improving the performance of their own intelligence services, increased security at airports, stations, public events etc and increased monitoring of suspects and improving the engagement with the Muslim community.
There's no easy answers but if you're going to introduce internment you might as well invite ISIS to set up a recruitment centre in Molenbeek and be done with it. |
BBC again reporting 94 Jihadists already returned to Mulanbeck, known, untouchable in law, ready to bomb, with access to a cache of arms across Europe. Sounds like Isis already have a recruitment office there and that is the problem.
Agree Internment in Ireland was totally over the top and caused more problems than it solved. These b'stards are a totally different kind of terrorist who will, given half a chance, kill, maim and set off bombs at Frances Nuclear infrastructure without a second thought. It's when not if now. And we idly stand by.... |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:57 - Mar 22 with 1912 views | essextaxiboy |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:46 - Mar 22 by Maggsinho |
I'm no expert but I would imagine they're looking at increased intelligence sharing between nations, improving the performance of their own intelligence services, increased security at airports, stations, public events etc and increased monitoring of suspects and improving the engagement with the Muslim community.
There's no easy answers but if you're going to introduce internment you might as well invite ISIS to set up a recruitment centre in Molenbeek and be done with it. |
They already have . More radicals have gone to join ISIS from Belgium than any other European country .
We are told we are "safer in European Union" . What a fcking joke . They can even keep their own back garden safe .
#Brexit |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:00 - Mar 22 with 1906 views | RBlock |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:36 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Not something I would ordinarily argue for R Block, but these are not any ordinary enemy or terrorists. BBC now reporting Nuclear security people have gone in.....the threat is very real. Appeasement isn't working. |
Whilst that is true there has to be a middle point between appeasement (which for the record is certainly not what I believe is happening at the moment) and interning communities based on their religous pursuasion. That would be absolute lunacy and would just serve to excacerbate the problem. |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:00 - Mar 22 with 1903 views | paulparker |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:46 - Mar 22 by Maggsinho |
I'm no expert but I would imagine they're looking at increased intelligence sharing between nations, improving the performance of their own intelligence services, increased security at airports, stations, public events etc and increased monitoring of suspects and improving the engagement with the Muslim community.
There's no easy answers but if you're going to introduce internment you might as well invite ISIS to set up a recruitment centre in Molenbeek and be done with it. |
Molenbeek is pretty much already a recruitment centre is it not
how long was that fella hiding out there , why did the local "community" then attack the police when they nicked him,
the nicely, nicely approach hasn't worked and never will work
if a group of muslim men have to be stopped and searched in the street so be it
radicals handing out leaflets in the street should be nicked there and then
if a woman in a burqu is acting suspicious and needs to be searched then it needs to happen
we have to stop this pussy footing around, if you don't like it don't be here |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:01 - Mar 22 with 1900 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:57 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
They already have . More radicals have gone to join ISIS from Belgium than any other European country .
We are told we are "safer in European Union" . What a fcking joke . They can even keep their own back garden safe .
#Brexit |
Brexit is a daft argument in this context. Closing the borders will do what to prevent the terrorists in Luton, Slough, Bradford etc? | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:04 - Mar 22 with 1890 views | traininvain |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 11:57 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
They already have . More radicals have gone to join ISIS from Belgium than any other European country .
We are told we are "safer in European Union" . What a fcking joke . They can even keep their own back garden safe .
#Brexit |
Neither can we.
Surely it's important now more than ever to work with other countries facing a similar threat than becoming isolationist. |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:11 - Mar 22 with 1863 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 09:40 - Mar 22 by MrSheen |
If only it were that simple. Murder in the Middle East has been going strong a lot longer than Western Imperialism and doesn't need any help from it to bubble along nicely. If terrorism was just and direct recompense for imperialism then Brussels would be under constant attack from Rwandans and Congolese rather than the children of Moroccans. |
I find your post to be the equivalent of the terrorists saying that Europeans have been slaughtering each other for centuries including millions of each other in two recent World Wars as an excuse for culpability of their actions.
No one is claiming Western genocide, both direct and assisted, is the sole reason for today's atrocious actions but to pretend it is not a factor is cognitive dissonance at its worst.
I started a thread a while back on our government's open pride in its part in arms sales to Saudi and the use of them in the murder of 1000's of innocent Yemeni citizens.
If we consider for a moment the angry, fearful, vengeful and violent thoughts and feelings people here in Britain are having over the deaths of 40 odd Belgians could we not reasonably extrapolate that the deaths of 1000's in the Middle East might make terrorist recruitment a far easier task? [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 12:17]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:17 - Mar 22 with 1827 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Hollande wanting 'More intelligence sharing' all very well but..
My mate is ex-army intelligence he told me France gets nothing because it's not in NATO and when given something they sell it therebuy compromising lives and informants.
Hence why no one tells France anything. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:20 - Mar 22 with 1811 views | essextaxiboy |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:01 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Brexit is a daft argument in this context. Closing the borders will do what to prevent the terrorists in Luton, Slough, Bradford etc? |
Nothing , We have to deal with our own scum as our elected Government see fit . If we dont like how they do it , we chuck them out .
We dont need to add to their number by being legally obliged to admit their pals.
Thats why its not daft IMO | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:25 - Mar 22 with 1792 views | essextaxiboy |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:04 - Mar 22 by traininvain |
Neither can we.
Surely it's important now more than ever to work with other countries facing a similar threat than becoming isolationist. |
Deciding who you want to come into your country is not isolationist . Australia , America ?
Not even got to B yet .. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:27 - Mar 22 with 1768 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 10:53 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Well, given these attacks have continued without resolution and intensify now, for over a decade, that gives good reason to introduce Internment for that Muslim community in that suburb of Brussels. From a few suburban streets, welcomed and hidden amongst them, they are able to launch devastating bombings right across Europe. So they are all culpable and need to be isolated. It's only a matter of time until they breach Nuclear security, which France is very vulnerable to, and they lay waste to western Europe. They will stop at nothing. Looking the other way and pretending they are otherwise containable is patently not true.
Bazza, your last comment is beyond stupid, no one is advocating for the burning of Mosques ffs. |
Brighton, you advocate for the internment of a whole community, based solely on their religion...
"that gives good reason to introduce Internment for that Muslim community in that suburb of Brussels"
...and then describe some-one else's comment as "beyond stupid"?
Now I know you will think me unreasonable, so let me explain why I think your suggestion is totally out of order.
Not only is it wrong to imprison people who have not committed any crime, you want to imprison people who are not even suspected of committing any crime. We cannot even claim that these people owe any allegiance to a national government that we are in a state of war with.
The other reason is such a unilateral, unjust act would be heaven sent to radical Islam terrorists everywhere. Failure to respect moderate, law-abiding Muslims will only increase radical support. Don't feed their appetite for more Muslim embitterment with the West. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:44 - Mar 22 with 1710 views | essextaxiboy |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:27 - Mar 22 by isawqpratwcity |
Brighton, you advocate for the internment of a whole community, based solely on their religion...
"that gives good reason to introduce Internment for that Muslim community in that suburb of Brussels"
...and then describe some-one else's comment as "beyond stupid"?
Now I know you will think me unreasonable, so let me explain why I think your suggestion is totally out of order.
Not only is it wrong to imprison people who have not committed any crime, you want to imprison people who are not even suspected of committing any crime. We cannot even claim that these people owe any allegiance to a national government that we are in a state of war with.
The other reason is such a unilateral, unjust act would be heaven sent to radical Islam terrorists everywhere. Failure to respect moderate, law-abiding Muslims will only increase radical support. Don't feed their appetite for more Muslim embitterment with the West. |
I agree that it would tip Muslims towards ISIS .
IMO a large majority of Muslims are sympathetic to the cause of ISIS but disagree with the violent means in trying to achieve it .
Radicals hiding in plain sight in the Muslim community both here and it would appear in European Cities, large attendances at mosques where radical preaching takes place. As far as I know not one attack thwarted by information received from the Muslim community.
Platitudes after days like today are just empty words. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:45 - Mar 22 with 1704 views | MrSheen |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:11 - Mar 22 by 1BobbyHazell |
I find your post to be the equivalent of the terrorists saying that Europeans have been slaughtering each other for centuries including millions of each other in two recent World Wars as an excuse for culpability of their actions.
No one is claiming Western genocide, both direct and assisted, is the sole reason for today's atrocious actions but to pretend it is not a factor is cognitive dissonance at its worst.
I started a thread a while back on our government's open pride in its part in arms sales to Saudi and the use of them in the murder of 1000's of innocent Yemeni citizens.
If we consider for a moment the angry, fearful, vengeful and violent thoughts and feelings people here in Britain are having over the deaths of 40 odd Belgians could we not reasonably extrapolate that the deaths of 1000's in the Middle East might make terrorist recruitment a far easier task? [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 12:17]
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I never said that Western actions hadn't inflamed anger, although I wonder what "genocides" you are referring to. Moved on a bit from "Imperial". Kropotkin wrote:
It is an uncomfortable truth for those who would rather pretend that evil sprouts spontaneously from under rocks in distant countries that what has happened in the Middle East has been a result of the imperial and foreign policies of the West. This isn't in any way to justify the murder of innocents, only to suggest that this will go on until there is a pretty fundamental change in the way power is thrown around the world.
I am wholly dubious that there is anything that can be done to the way the world is ordered to stop "This" - indiscriminate murder of non-combatants as a religious duty. |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:48 - Mar 22 with 1689 views | Boston |
The "ruling class" of Europe and their community activist advocate foot soldiers on the streets, are playing roulette using the lives of ordinary working people as chips. The delicate balance of ensuring growth and profits with an acceptable 'civilized' adjustment to the way of life of the plebiscite is, in their opinion, totally justifiable in the macro economic picture. The big gamble is that over time the problems will be ended by westernization, that money and mammon will be the new God, that this Allah thing will meekly fade away, in the meantime you,your family and neighbours are collateral damage. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:50 - Mar 22 with 1678 views | ingeminate |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 09:42 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Agree with you both, Kropotkin and Paul Parker.
There is a significant problem, the scenes of people on the streets ready to attack the police in Brussels when that b'stard was arrested last week was like scenes out of sectarian Belfast from years gone by, when the Republicans would not tolerate a large RUC/Army presence and attack. Difference being Brussels is not sectarian.
WTF are those scummy people doing protecting murderers within their community? No, not all Muslims, not even a majority can be held accountable, but when the vermin are hidden and protected within Muslim communities and able to launch local attacks like this morning it's reasonable to ask these questions of the whole Muslim community, whether it relates to bombers or peedo gangs why are they so easily able to hide in their communities, and more importantly, what are the Muslim community doing about it? Clearly not enough. Hundreds is Mulenbeck will have known that knut was still present in the neighbourhood. And French/Belgian Security Services have a lot to answer for too. The arguments about Islam being a peaceful religion or ALL muslims being innocent is allowing these cowardly scum to operate and kill with impunity, so the Muslims have to stand up to these knuts in their community without excuse.
Bombing Syria helps no one too. Fcking insane. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 9:44]
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Brighton, got a question for you old bean. A few actually.
On average in the UK two women are killed every week because of domestic violence.so roughly 730 a year. A call goes in to the old bill on average every minute.
So in the last ten years let's call it 7300, in the same time line in the UK I think I am right in saying one person has been killed by Islamic terrorists - Lee Rigby.
I in 3 women will suffer from it at some point.
What have you done about that as a man? What steps have you taken within your community of drinking mates, football mates, work colleagues? How many times have you contacted the police to ask them to take action based on a hunch, slip of the tongue? How many marches have you gone on to make it clear this is not happening in your name?
If you are like most people the answer to those questions is going to be not much and no.
Doesn't make you a monster, course it doesn't but what it does do is betray the double standards that you demand of another set of people.
Most people keep their head down and get on with life. And don't start quoting stats saying yeah but x percent of Muslims support terrorism. those surveys are 99% a crock of shit. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 21:17]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:54 - Mar 22 with 1654 views | Juzzie |
Just waiting for #prayforbrussels all over social media.
Do people not realise the irony in all this #prayforxxxx crap? It's this whole religious schit that's causing all these problems in the first place.
RIP. |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:58 - Mar 22 with 1639 views | Westy75 |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 10:53 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Well, given these attacks have continued without resolution and intensify now, for over a decade, that gives good reason to introduce Internment for that Muslim community in that suburb of Brussels. From a few suburban streets, welcomed and hidden amongst them, they are able to launch devastating bombings right across Europe. So they are all culpable and need to be isolated. It's only a matter of time until they breach Nuclear security, which France is very vulnerable to, and they lay waste to western Europe. They will stop at nothing. Looking the other way and pretending they are otherwise containable is patently not true.
Bazza, your last comment is beyond stupid, no one is advocating for the burning of Mosques ffs. |
Indeed, just locking up innocent people in concentration camps. Definitely the way to achieve lasting peace. |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:04 - Mar 22 with 1606 views | QPR_John |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:11 - Mar 22 by 1BobbyHazell |
I find your post to be the equivalent of the terrorists saying that Europeans have been slaughtering each other for centuries including millions of each other in two recent World Wars as an excuse for culpability of their actions.
No one is claiming Western genocide, both direct and assisted, is the sole reason for today's atrocious actions but to pretend it is not a factor is cognitive dissonance at its worst.
I started a thread a while back on our government's open pride in its part in arms sales to Saudi and the use of them in the murder of 1000's of innocent Yemeni citizens.
If we consider for a moment the angry, fearful, vengeful and violent thoughts and feelings people here in Britain are having over the deaths of 40 odd Belgians could we not reasonably extrapolate that the deaths of 1000's in the Middle East might make terrorist recruitment a far easier task? [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 12:17]
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"the deaths of 40 odd Belgians"
I think you could have worded that a little better | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:08 - Mar 22 with 1580 views | kensalriser |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:17 - Mar 22 by Metallica_Hoop |
Hollande wanting 'More intelligence sharing' all very well but..
My mate is ex-army intelligence he told me France gets nothing because it's not in NATO and when given something they sell it therebuy compromising lives and informants.
Hence why no one tells France anything. |
France is a founding and still very much existent member of NATO.
Just as well your mate is ex-army intelligence and not current. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 13:16]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:09 - Mar 22 with 1571 views | traininvain |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:25 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
Deciding who you want to come into your country is not isolationist . Australia , America ?
Not even got to B yet .. |
But it clearly doesn't work as both countries you mentioned have had terrorist attacks. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:14 - Mar 22 with 1537 views | Discodroids |
Nuclear Powerplant now being evacuated in Belgium. The Left cannow have an intellectual wa nk over radical islam with a dinner of dead rat tomorrow in an upturned Tin bath. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 13:21]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:15 - Mar 22 with 1539 views | Metallica_Hoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:08 - Mar 22 by kensalriser |
France is a founding and still very much existent member of NATO.
Just as well your mate is ex-army intelligence and not current. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 13:16]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:15 - Mar 22 with 1537 views | kensalriser |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:44 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
I agree that it would tip Muslims towards ISIS .
IMO a large majority of Muslims are sympathetic to the cause of ISIS but disagree with the violent means in trying to achieve it .
Radicals hiding in plain sight in the Muslim community both here and it would appear in European Cities, large attendances at mosques where radical preaching takes place. As far as I know not one attack thwarted by information received from the Muslim community.
Platitudes after days like today are just empty words. |
The guy they picked up in Brussels last week was apparently as a result of a tip-off.
Plots are foiled on a regular basis. It's not credible that no information comes out of the communities of would-be terrorists. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 13:18]
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