| Organ Donation. 18:23 - Nov 30 with 12402 views | lifelong |
Will you opt out of donating your organs? |  | | |  |
| Organ Donation. on 20:14 - Dec 1 with 1607 views | dickythorpe |
| Organ Donation. on 19:51 - Dec 1 by skippyjack |
Well.. it's like believing a bible ain't it..
do you believe in god? |
I believe in the mental health act. |  | | |
| Organ Donation. on 20:17 - Dec 1 with 1602 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Organ Donation. on 20:11 - Dec 1 by skippyjack |
People around the world are not buried alive? or have been?..
they don't surround the entirety of the pyramid.. |
They used to put bells in coffins to guard against accidentally burying someone alive. Hence the phrase "saved by the bell".
True story. Not a theory. |  |
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| Organ Donation. on 20:19 - Dec 1 with 1597 views | Pacemaker |
| Organ Donation. on 20:11 - Dec 1 by skippyjack |
People around the world are not buried alive? or have been?..
they don't surround the entirety of the pyramid.. |
Around the world was not a factor because we are talking about Wales.
In Wales I am pretty certain there would be a fair chance one of the three Drs and mortuary technicians would notice that you were still alive.
I don't know enough about Pyramids and magnetic fields but I did have a tour many years ago in the Valley of the Kings and I was prepared to accept they were man made. My daughter has recently toured S America and found the Inca trail and natural beauty of the amazing sites there awe inspiring.
Who knows the background of those lines only visible from space eh. |  |
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| Organ Donation. on 20:19 - Dec 1 with 1596 views | CountyJim |
Seriously it happens regularly that people wake up in the mortury
Or the attendant finds them breathing so yes I would say that some people are buried alive especially if the funeral is held quickly as in some religions |  | | |
| Organ Donation. on 20:25 - Dec 1 with 1584 views | Pacemaker |
| Organ Donation. on 20:19 - Dec 1 by CountyJim |
Seriously it happens regularly that people wake up in the mortury
Or the attendant finds them breathing so yes I would say that some people are buried alive especially if the funeral is held quickly as in some religions |
I don't think regularly is likely although I appreciate it has happened. But before any PM there are always several independent checks which is why they are discovered.
The current state of some staff in the NHS does not fill me with confidence that will always be the case though. | |
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| Organ Donation. on 20:29 - Dec 1 with 1578 views | CountyJim |
| Organ Donation. on 20:25 - Dec 1 by Pacemaker |
I don't think regularly is likely although I appreciate it has happened. But before any PM there are always several independent checks which is why they are discovered.
The current state of some staff in the NHS does not fill me with confidence that will always be the case though. |
They would know straight away with a pm as there would be to much blood
Bearing in mind not everyone has a pm as well | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 20:31 - Dec 1 with 1575 views | skippyjack |
| Organ Donation. on 20:14 - Dec 1 by dickythorpe |
I believe in the mental health act. |
Why?.. mental health.. so 'many' conspiracy theories are brandished towards someone who is mentally unwell..
people automatically look at people with down syndrome and talk differently to them.. like they're a different race.. i'm talking about 'well educated' people an all.
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| Organ Donation. on 21:02 - Dec 1 with 1543 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
| Organ Donation. on 19:26 - Dec 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Skip, that's right up there with your "pyramids" beauty from last week. |
Not millions as claimed, but during the 1800's.
Became bad to the point people wanted to be buried with bells attached to their gravestones connected to string in their coffins - hence the term "dead ringers".
However, skippy and county is talking site on everything else. Stop spouting your fear bullshite. Once you're dead, you're dead! not heard of anyone in a first world country being wrongly declared dead in the last 60 years.
Edit. Actually just noticed you've already posted this tidbit of knowledge, so I'll keep this on to support your info. [Post edited 1 Dec 2015 21:04]
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| Organ Donation. on 21:08 - Dec 1 with 1538 views | CountyJim |
| Organ Donation. on 21:02 - Dec 1 by EvenThisNameIsTaken |
Not millions as claimed, but during the 1800's.
Became bad to the point people wanted to be buried with bells attached to their gravestones connected to string in their coffins - hence the term "dead ringers".
However, skippy and county is talking site on everything else. Stop spouting your fear bullshite. Once you're dead, you're dead! not heard of anyone in a first world country being wrongly declared dead in the last 60 years.
Edit. Actually just noticed you've already posted this tidbit of knowledge, so I'll keep this on to support your info. [Post edited 1 Dec 2015 21:04]
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/14/waking-morgue-death-janina-
USA first world enough for you and one happened in Pontyberry a couple years back FACT | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 21:21 - Dec 1 with 1529 views | Pacemaker |
As pointed out in the article the American coroners do not have medical training. | |
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| Organ Donation. on 21:58 - Dec 1 with 1497 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
Doctors have to pronounce death. Didn't you realise that?!
MEDICALLY TRAINED DOCTORS
Besides - what do you have to worry about? Wouldn't your god protect you from this happening? Not prayed hard enough?... or to put it another way, wouldn't you like to see your god ASAP? [Post edited 1 Dec 2015 22:00]
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| Organ Donation. on 22:03 - Dec 1 with 1496 views | controversial_jack |
| Organ Donation. on 18:37 - Dec 1 by BlasterJack |
What part of optional are you not quite grasping?
And technically, a percentage of your tax is going towards certain aid quotas so they are already doing that in effect, the bastards. |
I know there's an option, that's why I have opted out as my previous post stated, however instead of asking you to donate they will take unless you specify otherwise | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 22:05 - Dec 1 with 1494 views | controversial_jack |
| Organ Donation. on 18:47 - Dec 1 by exiledclaseboy |
They already do. It's called the Consolidated Fund. |
How about dead peasants insurance, I'm sure you know all about that. | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 22:07 - Dec 1 with 1488 views | controversial_jack |
| Organ Donation. on 19:16 - Dec 1 by Pacemaker |
What the hell have my possessions got to do with my organs? My possessions have a value to my family my organs have no value to them unless they are on a waiting list themselves.
Are you seriously stating you would want a veto on who had your organs? |
It's not about value, but basic ethics, | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 22:09 - Dec 1 with 1485 views | CountyJim |
| Organ Donation. on 21:58 - Dec 1 by EvenThisNameIsTaken |
Doctors have to pronounce death. Didn't you realise that?!
MEDICALLY TRAINED DOCTORS
Besides - what do you have to worry about? Wouldn't your god protect you from this happening? Not prayed hard enough?... or to put it another way, wouldn't you like to see your god ASAP? [Post edited 1 Dec 2015 22:00]
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Where have I said that a doctor doesn't have to pronounce a death !!
And again is Germany first world enough for you http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/02/dead-woman-92-wakes-up-in-morgue-5323813/
I would quit now if I was you there are hundreds of occasions like this every year there's one in the paper nearly every day | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 22:14 - Dec 1 with 1478 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Organ Donation. on 22:05 - Dec 1 by controversial_jack |
How about dead peasants insurance, I'm sure you know all about that. |
I'm not important enough to be covered. | |
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| Organ Donation. on 22:19 - Dec 1 with 1467 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
Did she wake up in a cave three days later by any chance? Oh, and it was only one (incompetent) doctor, not TWO 'INDEPENDENT' doctors required by NICE policy to initiate donation procedures.
And hey, look! She was discovered before her organs were 'harvested'. Quit your scaremongering.
If anything goes wrong with an essential organ, you not going to accept a replacement on the donor register then? Going to pray instead??
You do realise the difference between death, and braindeath don't you?
And you clearly know very little on this topic, as to remain viable the organs need to be kept alive. Therefore in the vast majority of cases the person donating the organs and who has been pronounced dead remains on life support, ensuring the organs are kept alive and as fresh as possible prior to the transplantation. Parts will be removed on arrival of the specialist carrier who will forward this to the hospital where the recipient donor is located in as fast a time as possible. Additionally life support does not mean the patient receiving this is alive - instead it's a means of allowing the essential organs to keep functioning, thus avoiding necrosis and deterioration through lack of white blood cells etc. Throughout this time brain activity is measured regularly.
It is ONLY when all other avenues have been reviewed that a person is considered dead. Braindeath occurs approximately three minutes after you stop breathing, and no further oxygen has been received in the brain. This may be slightly longer in cases of hyperthermia, but this is taken into account by the medical specialists.
Your counter-arguments here are nothing short of scaremongering. You are ill-informed and counter productive to this discussion. If you personally don't want to register, please don't expect organs in return should you need this! [Post edited 1 Dec 2015 22:39]
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| Organ Donation. on 01:20 - Dec 2 with 1406 views | Highjack |
| Organ Donation. on 19:50 - Dec 1 by Lohengrin |
The Jews had the contract for that one, didn't they? |
In fairness, they did a good job. |  |
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| Organ Donation. on 09:49 - Dec 2 with 1367 views | BlasterJack |
I wonder if those wishing to opt out of donating would also opt out of receiving one if needed? |  |
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| Organ Donation. on 09:55 - Dec 2 with 1363 views | SwaneeRiver |
No. they can have whatever they can use - just hope they wait until I'm dead first !  | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 09:58 - Dec 2 with 1362 views | Lohengrin |
| Organ Donation. on 01:20 - Dec 2 by Highjack |
In fairness, they did a good job. |
Built to last. |  |
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| Organ Donation. on 10:28 - Dec 2 with 1339 views | Loyal |
Organ donation is very much a personal choice. Being a charitable chap I have donated my organ on more than one occassion and in a variety of circumstances. Long gone are the those donatable days of a quick nasal in the pub toilet, I now prefer to wine and dine a lady before shafting the shit out of her. |  |
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| Organ Donation. on 13:04 - Dec 2 with 1310 views | CountyJim |
| Organ Donation. on 22:19 - Dec 1 by EvenThisNameIsTaken |
Did she wake up in a cave three days later by any chance? Oh, and it was only one (incompetent) doctor, not TWO 'INDEPENDENT' doctors required by NICE policy to initiate donation procedures.
And hey, look! She was discovered before her organs were 'harvested'. Quit your scaremongering.
If anything goes wrong with an essential organ, you not going to accept a replacement on the donor register then? Going to pray instead??
You do realise the difference between death, and braindeath don't you?
And you clearly know very little on this topic, as to remain viable the organs need to be kept alive. Therefore in the vast majority of cases the person donating the organs and who has been pronounced dead remains on life support, ensuring the organs are kept alive and as fresh as possible prior to the transplantation. Parts will be removed on arrival of the specialist carrier who will forward this to the hospital where the recipient donor is located in as fast a time as possible. Additionally life support does not mean the patient receiving this is alive - instead it's a means of allowing the essential organs to keep functioning, thus avoiding necrosis and deterioration through lack of white blood cells etc. Throughout this time brain activity is measured regularly.
It is ONLY when all other avenues have been reviewed that a person is considered dead. Braindeath occurs approximately three minutes after you stop breathing, and no further oxygen has been received in the brain. This may be slightly longer in cases of hyperthermia, but this is taken into account by the medical specialists.
Your counter-arguments here are nothing short of scaremongering. You are ill-informed and counter productive to this discussion. If you personally don't want to register, please don't expect organs in return should you need this! [Post edited 1 Dec 2015 22:39]
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Fair dos your good at copy and pasting
You really have lost it you said that it wouldn't happen in a first world country Wrong!
*waits for him to google and copy and paste | | | |
| Organ Donation. on 19:00 - Dec 2 with 1279 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Organ Donation. on 13:04 - Dec 2 by CountyJim |
Fair dos your good at copy and pasting
You really have lost it you said that it wouldn't happen in a first world country Wrong!
*waits for him to google and copy and paste |
I don't know why you bother, Jim. He appears to be an unpleasant and intolerant individual. Definitely not worth the time of a decent man like yourself. | |
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| Organ Donation. on 19:28 - Dec 2 with 1258 views | Trefor_Giddings |
I won't be opting out, whether anyone would want my organs is a different matter. | |
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