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Just a thought on this subject which is all over the news saying we are a disgrace and should do more to help -
Oxford English Dictionary definition of Refugee - "A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster". So when a person flees their country for those reasons they are a refugee (and that is of course a terrible thing to happen to anyone and is yet another sad fact about humanity as a species). However, it could (and should) then be implied that once a 'refugee' passes through a 'safe' country then (s)he is no longer a refugee but a migrant, and most likely a migrant for economic reasons. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but all this rhetoric about taking in 'refugees' is completely misguided or a (deliberate?) misinterpretation of the facts IMO. If people wish to show their support for accommodating these people then that is of course their prerogative, but they should at least be clear that that they support accommodating 'economic migrants' as opposed to 'refugees' (although that would be far less sensationalist and may not suit their agenda).
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:03 - Sep 9 with 2802 views
We're all migrants, but it seems cut off times are arbitrary. Much like national borders as it happens. Nationalism, another word for ignorance.
Our family is descended from the paid assassins to King John,named after the type of knife that was popular in our particular line of work. Might just come out of retirement.
Our Local Church Has called for 50 families in our borough to take in a migrant family , and the priest , who looks as excitable as lord janner at the bottom of a mcdonalds ball pen, has offered to take a family in, which is fair enough. ..
AT least this story originates from aSensible chap who saw the outline of john the baptist scorched on to his toast this morning and can negate the Boroughs housing crisis with a shake of a replica sea shell covered spear of destiny, made out of balsa wood by the women in his Flock.
Its better than listening to the temerity of yet another MP on his/her High minded Steed of moral utopia , telling us to welcome displaced peoples of apocolyptic wastelands of Hungary, then throwing themselves to the floor like james brown when a tv camera is on them, and wailing for the uk to House these Migrants.
Hows about that they put a family up in one of their two homes ?
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The Duke Of New York. A-Number One.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:20 - Sep 9 with 2764 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:10 - Sep 9 by Discodroids
Our Local Church Has called for 50 families in our borough to take in a migrant family , and the priest , who looks as excitable as lord janner at the bottom of a mcdonalds ball pen, has offered to take a family in, which is fair enough. ..
AT least this story originates from aSensible chap who saw the outline of john the baptist scorched on to his toast this morning and can negate the Boroughs housing crisis with a shake of a replica sea shell covered spear of destiny, made out of balsa wood by the women in his Flock.
Its better than listening to the temerity of yet another MP on his/her High minded Steed of moral utopia , telling us to welcome displaced peoples of apocolyptic wastelands of Hungary, then throwing themselves to the floor like james brown when a tv camera is on them, and wailing for the uk to House these Migrants.
Hows about that they put a family up in one of their two homes ?
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agreed. They won't though. Not one of them. That's where you have to hand it to Geldof and not Bono.
At least Geldof has had the guts to put his money where his mouth is and said he'd take in families in both of his residences. not sure the neighbours will be so happy with him.
Bono hasn't.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:28 - Sep 9 with 2752 views
agreed. They won't though. Not one of them. That's where you have to hand it to Geldof and not Bono.
At least Geldof has had the guts to put his money where his mouth is and said he'd take in families in both of his residences. not sure the neighbours will be so happy with him.
Bono hasn't.
I can see it becoming the new chic, having a refugee family in the annex/granny flat.
Strong and stable my arse.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:28 - Sep 9 with 2748 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:10 - Sep 9 by Discodroids
Our Local Church Has called for 50 families in our borough to take in a migrant family , and the priest , who looks as excitable as lord janner at the bottom of a mcdonalds ball pen, has offered to take a family in, which is fair enough. ..
AT least this story originates from aSensible chap who saw the outline of john the baptist scorched on to his toast this morning and can negate the Boroughs housing crisis with a shake of a replica sea shell covered spear of destiny, made out of balsa wood by the women in his Flock.
Its better than listening to the temerity of yet another MP on his/her High minded Steed of moral utopia , telling us to welcome displaced peoples of apocolyptic wastelands of Hungary, then throwing themselves to the floor like james brown when a tv camera is on them, and wailing for the uk to House these Migrants.
Hows about that they put a family up in one of their two homes ?
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I'm still reeling from the Lord Janner comment.
'Excuse me Sir, this play area is for children only'
'err......where am I .........who am I..... can you pass me my ermine?'
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:40 - Sep 9 with 2727 views
agreed. They won't though. Not one of them. That's where you have to hand it to Geldof and not Bono.
At least Geldof has had the guts to put his money where his mouth is and said he'd take in families in both of his residences. not sure the neighbours will be so happy with him.
Bono hasn't.
Just seeing bonos name makes me want to shunder..do gooding arsewipe.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:46 - Sep 9 with 2707 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 15:12 - Sep 9 by 2Thomas2Bowles
Brixton... before they burnt it
Love the hammy voice over... "From Barnsley to beruit ".. What?.. My uncle Pete talked like that when he answered the phone.. Dead posh, then you asked him,"who was that on the phone uncle?"....he'd revert straight back to his Bethnal Green roots.." Just some w@nker".!
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 15:25 - Sep 9 with 2578 views
The problem is their human and they need to be loved.just like everybody else does, see the'rve already waited too long, and all their hope is gone....
sorry.
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The Duke Of New York. A-Number One.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 15:34 - Sep 9 with 2552 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 15:21 - Sep 9 by WilloW4
Love the hammy voice over... "From Barnsley to beruit ".. What?.. My uncle Pete talked like that when he answered the phone.. Dead posh, then you asked him,"who was that on the phone uncle?"....he'd revert straight back to his Bethnal Green roots.." Just some w@nker".!
This is interesting, Our Jamaican Problem 1955 About Housing and the Mayor of Brixton on what the solution is and the Jamaican just after, assuring there will be no troubles
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 15:34 - Sep 9 by 2Thomas2Bowles
This is interesting, Our Jamaican Problem 1955 About Housing and the Mayor of Brixton on what the solution is and the Jamaican just after, assuring there will be no troubles
Sounds a lot like today
Good video mate, on a lighter note..I love the whistles and titfers... Everyone who gets off the wind rush boat looks very dapper..quality.!!
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 21:42 - Sep 13 with 2404 views
Germany full up already? Germany's vice-chancellor has said the country is "at the limit of its capabilities" as more than 13,000 migrants arrived in Munich on Saturday.
Germany full up already? Germany's vice-chancellor has said the country is "at the limit of its capabilities" as more than 13,000 migrants arrived in Munich on Saturday.
talks a lot of sense to me
Where does it say Germany is full? They're introducing a temporary border control, not re-building the Berlin Wall. Makes perfect sense for them to have some control over access to the country.
You don't like immigrants from certain places. That's essentially your point.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 22:30 - Sep 13 with 2349 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 16:09 - Sep 8 by batmanhoop
there is no way ex-pats will be kicked out of Spain, France, Portugal, Timbuktoo wherever. Because there be a damned sight more going the other way. It won't happen
I think it's unlikely that EU would expel UK ex-pats, even though they would no longer have a right to remain within EU countries.
But, if they did, there would be an influx of retirees who could not afford to buy property at UK prices. At the moment roughly 1/3 of the Social Security expenditure goes on pensioners. Can the UK afford a big increase in that bill?
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 22:54 - Sep 13 with 2323 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 22:30 - Sep 13 by derbyhoop
I think it's unlikely that EU would expel UK ex-pats, even though they would no longer have a right to remain within EU countries.
But, if they did, there would be an influx of retirees who could not afford to buy property at UK prices. At the moment roughly 1/3 of the Social Security expenditure goes on pensioners. Can the UK afford a big increase in that bill?
so much going on that is the last scenario to worry about
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 23:25 - Sep 13 with 2291 views
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 21:57 - Sep 13 by Watford_Ranger
Where does it say Germany is full? They're introducing a temporary border control, not re-building the Berlin Wall. Makes perfect sense for them to have some control over access to the country.
You don't like immigrants from certain places. That's essentially your point.
I think it was this bit Germany's vice-chancellor has said the country is "at the limit of its capabilities.
i don't like them from Any country when they are coming in un screened its a total joke that we have so little control of our borders ,being an island we are at a massive advantage and yet no one has a clue as to how many people have been smuggled in and how many of them are criminals or worse
bottom line it the answer isn't filling Europe with them the answer is fixing Syria and destroying is but no ones go the stomach for it
Migrant/Refugee crisis on 00:02 - Sep 14 by 2Thomas2Bowles
I don't think many have a problem helping genuine refugees escaping war.
But what Germany has done is walk all over the EU rules and regulations on entry to the EU and have put the whole of Europe at high risk of terrorism.
No account what so ever has been taken on who these people really are.
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No, lets just be honest. The problem is with Muslims. I can tell many on here have Muslim friends and families and are not at all influenced by the daily mail. Just replace Muslims with pakis-blacks-Irish-Jews etc. depending on the era and we are there again. Every debate ends up being fck the Muslims, on here. When did this site become so right wing? We all have different opinions, and I respect that people's opinions vary from mine and I respect that, just had to say my piece. Anyhow, good night.
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Migrant/Refugee crisis on 07:54 - Sep 14 with 2145 views
No, lets just be honest. The problem is with Muslims. I can tell many on here have Muslim friends and families and are not at all influenced by the daily mail. Just replace Muslims with pakis-blacks-Irish-Jews etc. depending on the era and we are there again. Every debate ends up being fck the Muslims, on here. When did this site become so right wing? We all have different opinions, and I respect that people's opinions vary from mine and I respect that, just had to say my piece. Anyhow, good night.
Nice bit of spin that
If people have concerns about the security of the EU, they are just being anti Muslim
I don't think that is true at all, I think people have genuine concerns as to who a lot of these people really are, you can not ignore the security risks from PEOPLE coming from a region of the world that has so much conflict Muslim v Muslim and against western countries and where the majority of terrorism have come from.
That is NOT a tarring of all Muslims as you like to portray it.
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