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The League we are really in... 09:21 - Nov 4 with 1797 views

We are not going to finish top half in the Premier League. We are in a relegation battle with the other teams that are not going to finish top half. I would say that means we are competing with pretty much everyone from 11th in the current table down. It is amongst these teams that we need to make sure we pick up our points. Other games are 'bonus' opportunities.

Each team in the bottom half will probably pick up at least a win or two against teams in the top half and maybe 4-6 draws. We haven't got a single point in these types of games yet, but hopefully we will definitely get something this coming weekend!

Anyway, this means for a team to secure 40 points (to be sure of avoiding relegation) it needs about 28-30 points against teams in the bottom half of the division and there are only 18 of these fixtures - this means a Points Per Game (PPG) ratio of around 1.6 is required from these fixtures to guarantee survival. Currently, we are averaging 1.75 PPG in these types of games, but all these games for us have been played at home. However, in this type of league table, we would currently be sitting 2nd out of 10! The bottom three teams would be Stoke, Leicester and Burnley.

West Brom - Played against bottom sides:4 (3Home-1Away), Won:2, Drawn:2, Lost:0, Goals For:9- Goals Against:4; Points: 8, Points Per Game: 2.0
QPR - P:4 (4-0), W:2, D:1, L:1, F:5, A:3, Pts: 7, PPG: 1.75
Aston Villa - P4 (2-2), W:2, D:1, L:1, F:3, A:3, Pts: 7, PPG: 1.75
Sunderland - P5 (1-4), W:2, D:2, L:1, F:8, A:6, Pts: 8, PPG: 1.6
Hull - P5 (2-3), W:2, D:2, L:1, F-7, A-5, Pts: 8, PPG: 1.6
Newcastle - P5 (3-2), W: 1, L:3, L:1, F-6, A-6, Pts: 6, PPG: 1.2
Crystal Palace - P6 (3-3), W:1, D:3, L:2, F-8, A-10, Pts: 6, PPG: 1.0
Stoke - P6 (3-3), W:1, D:2, L:3, F-5, A-8, Pts: 5, PPG: 0.83
Leicester - P5 (2-3), W:1, D:1, L:3, F-3, A-6, Pts: 4, PPG: 0.8
Burnley - P4 (1-3), W:0, D;3, L-1, F-3, A-7, Pts: 3, PPG: 0.75

I know it is early days in the season., but if we keep doing well in this league then we should be okay. Another fact that may interest you when looking at these stats is that, although our away form is horrible (P:5, L:5), we have been against the top 10 sides in all of these games, and we are the only side in the league to have not played any of the bottom sides away from home yet.

Anyway, it was nice to see the stats suggesting that as the season plays out we may well begin to climb the table. Here's hoping...

The League we are really in... on 10:08 - Nov 4 with 1738 views

TacticalR

Is this the mini Mini-League?
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/129068/1628000/min

or the big Mini-League?
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/129621/1635862/pos

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Air hostess clique

The League we are really in... on 10:20 - Nov 4 with 1711 views

ozexile

Unless we start to pick up points away from home its all a bit irrelevant.

The League we are really in... on 10:21 - Nov 4 with 1708 views

Antti_Heinola

No such thing as 'bonus' games. This is a ridiculous misnomer that really needs to be buried. We're unlikely to pick up points v Man City, Chelsea etc, but they're not 'bonus games'. We have to try to find a way of getting points from them - because if you don't get any from the top 6, 7 or even 10 - you'll go down. You will. Because you won't win all those other games - it doesn't work like that.

Bare bones.

The League we are really in... on 10:21 - Nov 4 with 1707 views

fakekerby

I don't think we're far off being a mid table team.

I know it sounds mad but games we have conspired to lose when we could easily got a point:-

Hull - missed a penalty and played well
Liverpool - played well and had a mad final 20 seconds
Chelsea - played well but gave them a soft penalty
Saints - clawed our way back but instantly Pelle scores a wondergoal

We could have easily 3 or 4 more points on the board which would put us in touching distance of most teams.

The key is how do we turn losses into draws?? For me a lot of those losses were down to poor concentration and individual errors. Fers stupid free kick vs Liverpool, Vargas with a needless trip on Hazard and Austin missing a penalty for the first time I can remember!

The League we are really in... on 10:29 - Nov 4 with 1692 views

Antti_Heinola

Conspiring to lose points from a decent position is pretty much the definition of a bottom-quarter team, Faker. We're exactly where we deserve to be - some acceptable home performances, a couple of good ones, several dreadful away performances and one good one. That's relegation form. Let's not get too carried away with recent form. If we can keep it going then good - but there's much work to do before we can be even close to being a mid-table team IMO.

Bare bones.

The League we are really in... on 10:42 - Nov 4 with 1677 views

daveB

yeah we are miles from a mid table team, we'll be bottom six and stand a decent change of staying up but no more than that. Agree we need points against the bigger teams and I think we'll get a few but those games next month are absolutely key to us and we'll be as good as down by Christmas if we don't win a few of them.