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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? 08:00 - Feb 5 with 3153 viewsSwansIndependent

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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 08:42 - Feb 5 with 2990 viewsTomsyard

If you can see the obvious trajectory of the club and the obvious limitations of the manager and your not happy with it all then you have to look at what other options are available and if it increases your salary as well then happy days, I don’t blame him for going and especially since it sounds like Coleman didn’t give him the assurances that things were going to change so why put up with it. Also of course is the hatred written about him, who would want to read that, what would he be thinking when he pulled the shirt on a match day. I hope he does really well at Coventry
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 08:55 - Feb 5 with 2918 viewsFireboy2

I can't believe with all the goings on in the last 6 weeks that the new owners haven't noticed, or are they complicit and aren't bothered? I find that hard to believe.

I think that we have a manager who doesn't have a clue and doesn't give a sh!t and a chairman who has no idea how to run a football and is so arrogant that he thinks he can, well Andrew, you dont so get soneone in who does, you canuse the money you are paying your mate who is having a jolly at the expense of the club.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 09:11 - Feb 5 with 2860 viewsSullutaCreturned

Williams needs to go and Coleman needs to stop trying to micromanage everything and delegate responsibility to people with the relevant experience and know-how.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, Coleman has good intentions but it's definitely getting very hot around here
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 09:16 - Feb 5 with 2842 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

We can see the poor team management on the pitch every game. Mrs Grimes posts indicate that something significant has happened to change the family plans.
Coleman has to recognise that someone has to instigate change otherwise things remain the same. Right now the biggest impact can be achieved by getting a manager with good experience at Championship level in, maybe on a short contract followed by a reset in the summer?
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 11:41 - Feb 5 with 2409 viewsQJumpingJack

what adds to all this confusion is Grimes claiming Luke is the right man to lead the club forward in his departure posting on social media.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 12:04 - Feb 5 with 2296 viewsPawelAbbott

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 11:41 - Feb 5 by QJumpingJack

what adds to all this confusion is Grimes claiming Luke is the right man to lead the club forward in his departure posting on social media.


I would guess that he doesn't want to burn bridges.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 12:11 - Feb 5 with 2251 viewsjack247

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 08:42 - Feb 5 by Tomsyard

If you can see the obvious trajectory of the club and the obvious limitations of the manager and your not happy with it all then you have to look at what other options are available and if it increases your salary as well then happy days, I don’t blame him for going and especially since it sounds like Coleman didn’t give him the assurances that things were going to change so why put up with it. Also of course is the hatred written about him, who would want to read that, what would he be thinking when he pulled the shirt on a match day. I hope he does really well at Coventry
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Completely agree. He was one of the few players who would have had the option to move to another Championship side and get more money. I’m fairly confident we’d have seen others doing similar if there was interest in them.

I’m sure Darling is another, but it makes sense for him to sit tight for a few months.

Whatever he said on Twitter, Williams needs to leave before we stagnate any more.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 12:55 - Feb 5 with 2125 viewsGVJack

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 12:04 - Feb 5 by PawelAbbott

I would guess that he doesn't want to burn bridges.


He wouldn't have needed to. He wouldn't have needed to come out and say anything negative. But the fact he's chosen to say something a sportive as he believes he's the right man for the job does cause confusion. Unless he truly means it (which contradicts the article and our thoughts) He'd have been better saying absolutely nothing in relation to the manager and just wishing the Swans every success for the future.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 13:23 - Feb 5 with 2055 viewsunion_jack

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 12:55 - Feb 5 by GVJack

He wouldn't have needed to. He wouldn't have needed to come out and say anything negative. But the fact he's chosen to say something a sportive as he believes he's the right man for the job does cause confusion. Unless he truly means it (which contradicts the article and our thoughts) He'd have been better saying absolutely nothing in relation to the manager and just wishing the Swans every success for the future.


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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 13:38 - Feb 5 with 1992 viewsQJumpingJack

There is speculation on jackarmy.net that the DoF will be from Notts County.
So Luke may have time to improve things?
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:00 - Feb 5 with 1918 viewsTreforys_Jack

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 08:42 - Feb 5 by Tomsyard

If you can see the obvious trajectory of the club and the obvious limitations of the manager and your not happy with it all then you have to look at what other options are available and if it increases your salary as well then happy days, I don’t blame him for going and especially since it sounds like Coleman didn’t give him the assurances that things were going to change so why put up with it. Also of course is the hatred written about him, who would want to read that, what would he be thinking when he pulled the shirt on a match day. I hope he does really well at Coventry
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"Hatred" that's a strong word. Not read any hatred directed to Grimes.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:13 - Feb 5 with 1871 viewsPawelAbbott

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 13:38 - Feb 5 by QJumpingJack

There is speculation on jackarmy.net that the DoF will be from Notts County.
So Luke may have time to improve things?


If that is true, then it will probably be Richard Montague. He was there with Lukey, would explain the reluctance to remove Luke. It would make it less likely that Luke is going anywhere for the foreseeable.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:50 - Feb 5 with 1771 viewsonehunglow

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:00 - Feb 5 by Treforys_Jack

"Hatred" that's a strong word. Not read any hatred directed to Grimes.


There isn’t
People have no idea what hate really is
I do hate what Williams is doing to us
I hate to see us in free fall
Grimes? Just WTF cares
He’s gone
He’s a former employee

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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 15:05 - Feb 5 with 1718 viewsWhiterockin

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:13 - Feb 5 by PawelAbbott

If that is true, then it will probably be Richard Montague. He was there with Lukey, would explain the reluctance to remove Luke. It would make it less likely that Luke is going anywhere for the foreseeable.


Some interesting thoughts here regarding Notts County.

https://prideofnottingham.co.uk/community/topic/12581-so-who-runs-the-notts-firs
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 17:02 - Feb 5 with 1483 viewsswan65split

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:00 - Feb 5 by Treforys_Jack

"Hatred" that's a strong word. Not read any hatred directed to Grimes.


Its not hatred,,,,,,,,,its lost respect , whatever ive thought of MG , what ive seen since the Xmas period and his actions now in the window, as ive said after his 10 years, and what we have a club have done and given him. .....lack of respect, and reading his wifes musings only adds to that.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 19:36 - Feb 5 with 1259 viewsWhiterockin

On the bench tonight.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 07:58 - Feb 6 with 843 viewsjackrmee

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 12:55 - Feb 5 by GVJack

He wouldn't have needed to. He wouldn't have needed to come out and say anything negative. But the fact he's chosen to say something a sportive as he believes he's the right man for the job does cause confusion. Unless he truly means it (which contradicts the article and our thoughts) He'd have been better saying absolutely nothing in relation to the manager and just wishing the Swans every success for the future.


Exactly.
None of this makes sense to me.

If Grines was really leaving because of Williams, he wouldn’t go to the effort to show him so much suppprt and make a point in saying such positive and supportive things about Williams directly.

He could have either snubbed Williams, by saying nothing….just like theclub did about Grimes. They did not even wish him luck on the website. After 10 years as captain. Strange.

The above points make me think that Grimes has no problem with Williams at all. None.
Yet someone else at the club, has an issue with Grimes.
Probably someone who grimes didn’t go out of his was to big up

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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 08:01 - Feb 6 with 840 viewsjackrmee

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 14:50 - Feb 5 by onehunglow

There isn’t
People have no idea what hate really is
I do hate what Williams is doing to us
I hate to see us in free fall
Grimes? Just WTF cares
He’s gone
He’s a former employee


So you don’t think there is any benefit in knowing why our club captain of the last 6-7 years,just upped and left, not long after signing a new contract?

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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 09:52 - Feb 6 with 711 viewsonehunglow

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 08:01 - Feb 6 by jackrmee

So you don’t think there is any benefit in knowing why our club captain of the last 6-7 years,just upped and left, not long after signing a new contract?


Good question.
It matters not why I ,you ,or anyone else thinks why Grimes left .
Personally, as I ve said many times, it’s money based . Nothing else matters to footballers ,who would rather sit on a bench than play so long as they get their megabucks.
Grimes was offered significantly more and he didn’t take long to take it up. Footballers families know the job entails multiple clubs and locations

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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 09:56 - Feb 6 with 705 viewslifelong

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 09:52 - Feb 6 by onehunglow

Good question.
It matters not why I ,you ,or anyone else thinks why Grimes left .
Personally, as I ve said many times, it’s money based . Nothing else matters to footballers ,who would rather sit on a bench than play so long as they get their megabucks.
Grimes was offered significantly more and he didn’t take long to take it up. Footballers families know the job entails multiple clubs and locations


Maybe Grimes’s was offered more money to stay, if that was the case then his move was not about money.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 10:14 - Feb 6 with 676 viewsonehunglow

Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ? on 09:56 - Feb 6 by lifelong

Maybe Grimes’s was offered more money to stay, if that was the case then his move was not about money.


Morning
I read we are all about cost saving
We do it at every stage .
Maybe it’s lunacy to believe we would increase his salary significantly

We didn’t need this window to evidence just how badly we are run . It’s seat of the pants ,at best .

We deserve better . All of us

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