| Return of the European Super League???? 09:05 - Dec 21 with 9640 views | Lblock |
Ruling just made that FIFA and UEFA acted illegally in blocking it.
Thats good news for me.
Sooner they sod off and play each other four times a year the better.
The rest of us will survive somehow and could be the reset football needs |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:21 - Dec 21 with 6419 views | DWQPR |
Sadly, I can only see the big clubs having even more money and signing second elevens that will remain strong enough to compete at the highest levels in their domestic leagues. If the ruling is that UEFA had acted illegally I suspect that the domestic associations haven’t a chance to banish those club since that will defect. Those clubs will lose plenty of supporters who will have nothing to do with such a concept but those empty seats will soon be filled by tourist supporters. We all know that football as a sport is fùcked, it is even more so this morning. |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:25 - Dec 21 with 6399 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
The report said that when new competitions are "potentially entering the market" Fifa and Uefa must ensure their powers are "transparent, objective, non-discriminatory and proportionate".
The report adds: "However, the powers of Fifa and Uefa are not subject to any such criteria. Fifa and Uefa are, therefore, abusing a dominant position."
"Moreover, given their arbitrary nature, their rules on approval, control and sanctions must be held to be unjustified restrictions on the freedom to provide services."
Surely FFP should be challenged based on this ruling? | | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:26 - Dec 21 with 6400 views | dmm |
Yeah, I feel similarly about the potential effect of the ruling but I also wonder if it'll make much difference. Football has become a hyper capitalist venture through Sky et al, and has international political involvement way beyond what it should have. Football is a dirty, corrupt tool in the hands of the extremely rich and another super elite competition will only add to it. |  | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:27 - Dec 21 with 6397 views | Northernr |
If you look at the new format for the Champions League, and the World Club Championship or whatever the fck it's called, it's here already.
But remember, it's the FA Cup replays at exeter tiring the Liverpool players out. |  | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:38 - Dec 21 with 6352 views | cpgerber |
This thing absolutely does not interest me at all. I would personally much rather watch local leagues instead of this hyped up super league.
But I can see this being a mega succes in the non-European countries in particular where people see the top teams only anyway. |  | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:38 - Dec 21 with 6349 views | TheChef |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:27 - Dec 21 by Northernr |
If you look at the new format for the Champions League, and the World Club Championship or whatever the fck it's called, it's here already.
But remember, it's the FA Cup replays at exeter tiring the Liverpool players out. |
Er well yeah cos there's no money in FA Cup replays is there? |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:44 - Dec 21 with 6318 views | bosh67 |
F*ck em!
Football will survive without them. It may actually reset itself to be sensible. |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:50 - Dec 21 with 6294 views | Konk |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:27 - Dec 21 by Northernr |
If you look at the new format for the Champions League, and the World Club Championship or whatever the fck it's called, it's here already.
But remember, it's the FA Cup replays at exeter tiring the Liverpool players out. |
Mate, anyone with a basic understanding of sports science knows that playing against unglamorous opposition takes 8x as much energy as playing against a glamorous opponent, several thousand miles away. If we're going to protect the stars, we need an 8 team Premier League and 64 CL group games for every club with an official supporters club in Hong Kong. It's the only way to make the numbers work.
I would very happily wave fu ck-off to any club that wanted to join a ESL. In my experience, match-going fans of those clubs hate the idea, whilst armchair fans seem quite keen. And we all know who clubs value the most...📺 |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:54 - Dec 21 with 6282 views | Northernr |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:50 - Dec 21 by Konk |
Mate, anyone with a basic understanding of sports science knows that playing against unglamorous opposition takes 8x as much energy as playing against a glamorous opponent, several thousand miles away. If we're going to protect the stars, we need an 8 team Premier League and 64 CL group games for every club with an official supporters club in Hong Kong. It's the only way to make the numbers work.
I would very happily wave fu ck-off to any club that wanted to join a ESL. In my experience, match-going fans of those clubs hate the idea, whilst armchair fans seem quite keen. And we all know who clubs value the most...📺 |
Yeh we know full well the audience this is for. It's the same audience that piles into every Man Utd post saying they should bring back "our star boy" Mason Greenwood. | | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 09:58 - Dec 21 with 6267 views | Paddyhoops |
Anyone really care anymore? We’re the real supporters of the game .It’s been a two tiered game for decades now. Designed for armchair viewers who profess to be life long Chelsea / Liverpool/ Barca fans. I’ve long since given up on watching or caring about top flight football. | | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:25 - Dec 21 with 6171 views | Konk |
There seems to be a weird thing here in Bristol, where loads of people support/watch City/Rovers, but also have a Premier League club. Not sure if people in say, Plymouth, Lincoln, Preston etc are the same. But I reckon our game is plenty strong enough that if the biggest clubs broke away, people would still watch their local club, but maybe have a ESL team too.
Personally, I have zero interest in CL football, and other than the odd final, have probably watched about four CL games in the last ten years. No idea who the coach is at Barcelona, PSG, Juve, Milan, Inter etc. Fuc k 'em all. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 10:31]
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:31 - Dec 21 with 6137 views | Northernr |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:25 - Dec 21 by Konk |
There seems to be a weird thing here in Bristol, where loads of people support/watch City/Rovers, but also have a Premier League club. Not sure if people in say, Plymouth, Lincoln, Preston etc are the same. But I reckon our game is plenty strong enough that if the biggest clubs broke away, people would still watch their local club, but maybe have a ESL team too.
Personally, I have zero interest in CL football, and other than the odd final, have probably watched about four CL games in the last ten years. No idea who the coach is at Barcelona, PSG, Juve, Milan, Inter etc. Fuc k 'em all. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 10:31]
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Used to be a huge thing in Grimsby and Scunny when I lived there. On a Saturday they'd go to Blundell Park or Glanny Park and watch Grimsby and Scunny. They'd even do some away games, have the shirts etc. They were, as you and I would understand it, a Grimsby or a Scunthorpe fan. But ask them who they support, and straight away it's Man Utd or Liverpool. Sometimes Leeds. Never went to see them, only ever watched on TV.
It was always this argument I put forward in favour of keeping the 3pm blackout. If you had a Man Utd game on TV at the same times as a Grimsby or particularly a Scunny game it would wipe 1,000 off the gate. Now you can just stream every game anyway I'm not so sure, but there is still a sizeable chunk of older blokes who wouldn't even know where to begin with a firestick, but would definitely stay in the pub to watch "United" if they were on rather than walk down the road to watch Scunny.
We had an intensely annoying exchange with somebody in The Green a few years ago who'd had a few and wanted to know who "our Prem team is". "Yeh, yeh, I know, QPR, but who's your Prem team, when you're watching EPL you must have one". We musn't, actually. | | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:32 - Dec 21 with 6131 views | BrianMcCarthy |
There's no way this ends well for clubs like ours. |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:39 - Dec 21 with 6112 views | Konk |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:31 - Dec 21 by Northernr |
Used to be a huge thing in Grimsby and Scunny when I lived there. On a Saturday they'd go to Blundell Park or Glanny Park and watch Grimsby and Scunny. They'd even do some away games, have the shirts etc. They were, as you and I would understand it, a Grimsby or a Scunthorpe fan. But ask them who they support, and straight away it's Man Utd or Liverpool. Sometimes Leeds. Never went to see them, only ever watched on TV.
It was always this argument I put forward in favour of keeping the 3pm blackout. If you had a Man Utd game on TV at the same times as a Grimsby or particularly a Scunny game it would wipe 1,000 off the gate. Now you can just stream every game anyway I'm not so sure, but there is still a sizeable chunk of older blokes who wouldn't even know where to begin with a firestick, but would definitely stay in the pub to watch "United" if they were on rather than walk down the road to watch Scunny.
We had an intensely annoying exchange with somebody in The Green a few years ago who'd had a few and wanted to know who "our Prem team is". "Yeh, yeh, I know, QPR, but who's your Prem team, when you're watching EPL you must have one". We musn't, actually. |
It's really weird! I take my son to City games with 3 blokes who grew up ten minutes from Ashton Gate, who have been regulars since they were kids, have followed England etc, so proper match-going fans, and if you ask them who they support: 'City and Arsenal/Spurs/Man Utd'. Can understand it with misguided kids, but assumed it was something you grew out of by secondary school. Gonna be interesting if City ever get to the Premier league. | |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:41 - Dec 21 with 6100 views | ted_hendrix |
Work on a building site Saturday morning.
Jump on the tube.
Pints In the White Horse.
Run down Loftus Road at 14.56.
Stand behind the goal and moan and slash on the floor.
Go 1-0 down.
Half time talk crap with Twenty other blokes who are talking crap and smoking enormous roll ups that keep bursting into flames.
Second half starts but your still talking crap with Twenty other blokes who are talking crap and smoking enormous roll ups that keep bursting into flames.
Go back and start watching the game and then we equalize and we all do the pogo and tell each other that we love each other.
Just as the game Is about to end we get a corner and lo and behold we only go and score from It so we do the pogo again and in the mayhem that follows I'm hugging a bloke who lives In Leighton Buzzard and some bus conductor bloke from Walthamstow.
The fat referee blows his whistle to restart the game and then promptly blows It again to end the game.
We all walk out of the ground and walk up Loftus Road with our hands In our pockets and daydream. |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:46 - Dec 21 with 6073 views | slmrstid |
The most annoying thing with all this is the big clubs who wanted the European Super League want to stay in their domestic competitions as well as this monstrosity.
So they want the Super League, but want to stay in the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup etc too.
That should be a no-no - they want all of the reward and none of the risk - it should be one or the other and make your bed and lie in it. |  | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:50 - Dec 21 with 6057 views | Konk |
From the Guardian:
Real Madrid’s president, Florentino Pérez, said after the ruling: “Today will mark a before and after; it is a great day for the history of football and the history of sport.” Pérez said clubs could now be “the masters of their destiny” and the Super League would give football “the new impetus it so badly needs”.
Yeah, cos football is dying on its ar se, and is less visible than badminton these days...
What he meant to say was: 'Today will mark a before and after; it is a great day for the history of football and the history of sport.” Pérez said clubs could now be “the masters of their destiny” and the Super League would give the richest clubs “the extra money that we so badly need because we've been paying every cu nt €500,000 a week for the past 20 years”. | |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:01 - Dec 21 with 6008 views | dmm |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 10:46 - Dec 21 by slmrstid |
The most annoying thing with all this is the big clubs who wanted the European Super League want to stay in their domestic competitions as well as this monstrosity.
So they want the Super League, but want to stay in the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup etc too.
That should be a no-no - they want all of the reward and none of the risk - it should be one or the other and make your bed and lie in it. |
It's probably not long before we see big clubs' B teams in league and cup competitions. | | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:01 - Dec 21 with 6010 views | loftboy |
Would be nice to get a quote from the PL and the Fa on the ruling. |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:14 - Dec 21 with 5959 views | Hayesender |
Will there be a place at the top table for Newcastle I wonder 🤔 |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:15 - Dec 21 with 5957 views | aston_hoop |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:14 - Dec 21 by Hayesender |
Will there be a place at the top table for Newcastle I wonder 🤔 |
I imagine it will be Saudi funded so probably! |  |
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:17 - Dec 21 with 5944 views | Toast_R |
I'm not sure how it will look when the teams are playing their games in mostly empty stadiums. Will die on it's arse. When the teams want back in to the English domestic leagues, they can re-start from League 2. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 11:19]
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| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:19 - Dec 21 with 5933 views | Northernr |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:17 - Dec 21 by Toast_R |
I'm not sure how it will look when the teams are playing their games in mostly empty stadiums. Will die on it's arse. When the teams want back in to the English domestic leagues, they can re-start from League 2. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 11:19]
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At domestic level or the Super League level?
Super League I see mostly taking place in the big stadiums in the US and Far East, which would easily sell. | | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:21 - Dec 21 with 5921 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I might be wrong, but I think the government are proposing legislation that will make a breakaway league impossible. |  | | |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:24 - Dec 21 with 5899 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Return of the European Super League???? on 11:21 - Dec 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I might be wrong, but I think the government are proposing legislation that will make a breakaway league impossible. |
The FSA concurs:
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