| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. 22:15 - Feb 16 with 17216 views | olympicdale |
I don't know what else to say after that 'performance'. The first 6 minutes were brilliant, closing down Crewe and all over them, and then they seemed to stop playing which gave Crewe a perfect chance to get back in to the game. You can not drop the intensity as much as we did after getting two early goals, they were there for the taking and we just decided to stop playing, and in fact, they will probably be a little disappointed not to win, could have easily had 3/4.
There doesn't look to be any visible shape to this team, or any noticible idea to the system being played, McNulty is NOT a full back, how many games before Hill realises this, he's in danger of destroying the lads confidence. Eastham and Lancy should be the preferred choice with what we have at the moment, they appear to have a good partnership, verbally organising each other throughout the game.
What has happened to the midfield, there are no leaders in the middle of the park, no passion and no natural width, it's like there's an invisible shield just past the half way line, that we seem afraid to cross. It is no coincidence tht both goals came from quality play out wide, we need some natural width in our play. I am running out of patience for the situation with Alessandra, we need to be playing him or let him go out on loan, he deserves to be playing every week for someone.
Something needs to change, personal or tactical, because there doesn't look to be any idea or direction in the team atm, and you can easily be dragged in to a relegation battle, it was clear that confidence was low once Crewe got back in to it, and for a team that can beat teams like Wallsall and Burton, it is no excuse. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 22:21]
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:17 - Feb 16 with 10222 views | dingdangblue |
Where's Scott Tanser disappeared to? |  |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:19 - Feb 16 with 10169 views | 1907 |
McNulty and Eastham should be the pairing. Lancashire was absolutely disgraceful yet again tonight. Weak, horrendous distribution, completely lost his man for the first goal... The list is endless. He is quite clearly nowhere near good enough yet appears to be the first name on the team sheet |  | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:23 - Feb 16 with 10092 views | olympicdale |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:17 - Feb 16 by dingdangblue |
Where's Scott Tanser disappeared to? |
I posed the same question tonight, seems to have fallen into the Keith Hill black hole. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:26 - Feb 16 with 10056 views | 442Dale |
McNulty at LB has no vald argument at all. By the second half he'd stopped giving angle for the CHs to pass to him. What message does that send to Tom Kennedy?
RNL back from nowhere and used ahead of Alessandra who did quite well on Saturday?
No Camps, Allen, Cannon?
These were all discussed after the game with the manager I hope. |  |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:29 - Feb 16 with 10016 views | RoChDaLe |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:26 - Feb 16 by 442Dale |
McNulty at LB has no vald argument at all. By the second half he'd stopped giving angle for the CHs to pass to him. What message does that send to Tom Kennedy?
RNL back from nowhere and used ahead of Alessandra who did quite well on Saturday?
No Camps, Allen, Cannon?
These were all discussed after the game with the manager I hope. |
Think he was aiming for height in the side due to the nature of Crewe hence Bennett unusually up top and Mcnulty outwide and no Allen or Camps. He's also doing it to combat the set piece conceding problem i believe. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:29 - Feb 16 with 10002 views | Toffeemanc |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:17 - Feb 16 by dingdangblue |
Where's Scott Tanser disappeared to? |
Hill mentioned he has a leg injury in a recent interview. He is sorely missed at the moment as we do not have a left back with any sort of pace and it is showing. |  |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:32 - Feb 16 with 9956 views | olympicdale |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:19 - Feb 16 by 1907 |
McNulty and Eastham should be the pairing. Lancashire was absolutely disgraceful yet again tonight. Weak, horrendous distribution, completely lost his man for the first goal... The list is endless. He is quite clearly nowhere near good enough yet appears to be the first name on the team sheet |
I dont agree, i think all our CBs are similar quality, having Mcnulty with Eastham wouldn't fix our defensive problems imo. Eastham with Lancashire should be the first choice, a proper LB and a proper idea of some sort of system. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:35 - Feb 16 with 9910 views | 442Dale |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:29 - Feb 16 by RoChDaLe |
Think he was aiming for height in the side due to the nature of Crewe hence Bennett unusually up top and Mcnulty outwide and no Allen or Camps. He's also doing it to combat the set piece conceding problem i believe. |
Apart from Haber and their defenders, where was the height in their side? | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:36 - Feb 16 with 9896 views | olympicdale |
If their guy hadn't gone off injured it could have been worse at half time, he was brilliant on their right side, Mcunlty was really struggling, a lot of impatus was lost (thankfully) after he was stretchered off. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:41 - Feb 16 with 9820 views | RoChDaLe |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:35 - Feb 16 by 442Dale |
Apart from Haber and their defenders, where was the height in their side? |
they were a tall team | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:48 - Feb 16 with 9732 views | dalenumber2 |
Two poor teams tonight. Crewe were playing for the draw in the second half, we were clueless (after our second goal) especially in defence. I cannot understand Hill's team selection, McNulty was like a fish out of water again tonight. Hill's substitutions were just as baffling and I left feeling quite depressed as if we had lost. The thing is, I know we can be so much better than this. That's the frustrating thing. |  | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:48 - Feb 16 with 9732 views | olympicdale |
He seems to have been out for quite a while now, he has certainly been badly missed. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:51 - Feb 16 with 9679 views | TVOS1907 |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:41 - Feb 16 by RoChDaLe |
they were a tall team |
Not really.
Haber and the lad at the back, but the rest weren't, not even the 'keeper. |  |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:51 - Feb 16 with 9674 views | olympicdale |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:48 - Feb 16 by dalenumber2 |
Two poor teams tonight. Crewe were playing for the draw in the second half, we were clueless (after our second goal) especially in defence. I cannot understand Hill's team selection, McNulty was like a fish out of water again tonight. Hill's substitutions were just as baffling and I left feeling quite depressed as if we had lost. The thing is, I know we can be so much better than this. That's the frustrating thing. |
The team appears to be playing within themselves at the moment, afraid to play to their potential, because we all know they can beat anyone in this league on their day, very negative approaches recently. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:56 - Feb 16 with 9623 views | TalkingSutty |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:48 - Feb 16 by dalenumber2 |
Two poor teams tonight. Crewe were playing for the draw in the second half, we were clueless (after our second goal) especially in defence. I cannot understand Hill's team selection, McNulty was like a fish out of water again tonight. Hill's substitutions were just as baffling and I left feeling quite depressed as if we had lost. The thing is, I know we can be so much better than this. That's the frustrating thing. |
When I saw the team line up i immediately thought Hilly was looking not to lose the match rather than win it. In the cold light of day when you look at the league table the point is not a bad one. |  | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:57 - Feb 16 with 9610 views | dalenumber2 |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:51 - Feb 16 by olympicdale |
The team appears to be playing within themselves at the moment, afraid to play to their potential, because we all know they can beat anyone in this league on their day, very negative approaches recently. |
Hill needs to take responsibility for this, ultimately. I really don't know what's been going on recently - it's almost as if he does't want us to do well just to prove a point. If anyone has an explanation I would like to hear it. | | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:02 - Feb 16 with 9561 views | Swissdale |
Hilly has mentioned about the lack of confidence in the team, and my God did it show tonight. Our style of football is being affected, and it's frankly boring to watch. So many times we work the ball backwards, for a centre half to whack it upfield and lose possession.
Negativity also lies at the feet of the manager when it comes to team selection. We started a home game against third bottom of the league with SIX defenders, including FOUR centre halfs, not good enough.
Tonight is the first time I've started to feel genuinely worried about our prospects this season. The team has been chopped and changed dramatically over the past few weeks, but the end results are very similar. |  | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:05 - Feb 16 with 9538 views | Daley_Lama |
At least Joe Bunney had a decent game tonight, like all players a run in the team gets you going. |  |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:06 - Feb 16 with 9521 views | RoChDaLe |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 22:51 - Feb 16 by TVOS1907 |
Not really.
Haber and the lad at the back, but the rest weren't, not even the 'keeper. |
you could hardly miss the black fella and their right back was also tall.. that's 4 players who we were most likely aiming to mark with Bennett,Eastham,Lancashire and Mcnulty. | |
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| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:09 - Feb 16 with 9487 views | JimmyRustler |
I've now come to the conclusion that one of two things (possibly both as they sorta go hand in hand) are happening with KH at the moment.
He's either a) totally lost the plot and these 'masterstrokes' such as Jim at LB are feeble attempts to try and show that he's still some sort of tactical demigod
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b) He's being a stubborn tvvat and this tinkering, omission of Alessandra etc is just a big FU I'm in charge to the fans who he thinks are trying to undermine him.
The result in isolation is SH1TE in itself but the fact we completely folded and let them back into it is absolutely terrifying.
We don't defend from the front. (Hendo is the only one who tries to put pressure on oppos)
Our defenders can't defend.
Our defending from set pieces is, at the risk of doing the kids a disservice, schoolboyesque.
Our confidence is now absolutely NIL.
We've used a loan to bring in a defender who by all accounts can't get into Scunthorpe's team and is thought of by their fans as a step below dogshiit in the road on the defensive spectrum.
It's quite clear to me that Eastham is our best defender. He needs to be at least tried with Jim or perhaps even Caravan Park or whatever his name is if KH is feeling extra doped up and frivolous.
We need to try and sell Lancashire to Tranmere because they're probably the only club in England who would take him off our hands right now.
RNL in from the cold was honesty laughable over Alessandra who may as well just ask for a mutual termination. I've never ever been so pissed off with regards to a player situation and I feel so sorry for the lad.
Bunney may have scored but he's still poop. If he's the best we can hope for (whatever position he plays) then I think I'm gonna put the deposit down for the weekend in Morecame now.
Oh and one last thing, why oh why have we abandoned our free flowing football? It isn't an excuse to say that KH doesn't think this squad is capable of playing that way as it's virtually the same team as last season and he assembled the feckin thing!
My wife is gonna get it tonight and I don't care if she's asleep when I get in. |  | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:16 - Feb 16 with 9441 views | TalkingSutty |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:09 - Feb 16 by JimmyRustler |
I've now come to the conclusion that one of two things (possibly both as they sorta go hand in hand) are happening with KH at the moment.
He's either a) totally lost the plot and these 'masterstrokes' such as Jim at LB are feeble attempts to try and show that he's still some sort of tactical demigod
Or
b) He's being a stubborn tvvat and this tinkering, omission of Alessandra etc is just a big FU I'm in charge to the fans who he thinks are trying to undermine him.
The result in isolation is SH1TE in itself but the fact we completely folded and let them back into it is absolutely terrifying.
We don't defend from the front. (Hendo is the only one who tries to put pressure on oppos)
Our defenders can't defend.
Our defending from set pieces is, at the risk of doing the kids a disservice, schoolboyesque.
Our confidence is now absolutely NIL.
We've used a loan to bring in a defender who by all accounts can't get into Scunthorpe's team and is thought of by their fans as a step below dogshiit in the road on the defensive spectrum.
It's quite clear to me that Eastham is our best defender. He needs to be at least tried with Jim or perhaps even Caravan Park or whatever his name is if KH is feeling extra doped up and frivolous.
We need to try and sell Lancashire to Tranmere because they're probably the only club in England who would take him off our hands right now.
RNL in from the cold was honesty laughable over Alessandra who may as well just ask for a mutual termination. I've never ever been so pissed off with regards to a player situation and I feel so sorry for the lad.
Bunney may have scored but he's still poop. If he's the best we can hope for (whatever position he plays) then I think I'm gonna put the deposit down for the weekend in Morecame now.
Oh and one last thing, why oh why have we abandoned our free flowing football? It isn't an excuse to say that KH doesn't think this squad is capable of playing that way as it's virtually the same team as last season and he assembled the feckin thing!
My wife is gonna get it tonight and I don't care if she's asleep when I get in. |
Make sure you wake her up first, you could end up in trouble otherwise.Its always wise to seek permission first. | | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:19 - Feb 16 with 9418 views | WhiteyBFC |
McNulty played his best football for us at LB.
RNL had shoulder surgery recently did he not? Was tonight his first appearance back?
Crewe aren't the mugs people expect. A point's a point.
(some) Rochdale and Bury fans need to take stock and realise that mid table in L1 isn't as bad as they make it sound. I'm a Barnsley supporter, sat in mid table during one of the worst seasons in living memory. In L1. I accept it. It's where we are. It's where we deserve to be. It is what it is.
For Dale not to be bottom four is something in itself. I honestly think Keith's over-achievements previously give folk a false perspective.
You're not as bad as a lot of you keep insisting you are. |  | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:19 - Feb 16 with 9417 views | dalenumber2 |
Worryingly for me was that when the Fleetwood match was announced at the end of the match, I had an overwhelming feeling of doom and dread at the thought of another cold Tuesday night watching all that again! | | | |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:28 - Feb 16 with 9357 views | JimmyRustler |
| No shape, no system, no midfield, no idea. on 23:19 - Feb 16 by WhiteyBFC |
McNulty played his best football for us at LB.
RNL had shoulder surgery recently did he not? Was tonight his first appearance back?
Crewe aren't the mugs people expect. A point's a point.
(some) Rochdale and Bury fans need to take stock and realise that mid table in L1 isn't as bad as they make it sound. I'm a Barnsley supporter, sat in mid table during one of the worst seasons in living memory. In L1. I accept it. It's where we are. It's where we deserve to be. It is what it is.
For Dale not to be bottom four is something in itself. I honestly think Keith's over-achievements previously give folk a false perspective.
You're not as bad as a lot of you keep insisting you are. |
If the season was to finish now this would all be true but we're pretty much in free fall with 6 wins in our last 20 games in all comps.
It's the manner of the results as much as the results themselves. I can't see us putting a run together like you did.
We aren't even losing the right way anymore. Everything KH has built here he seems to be systemically destroying with every passing game.
PS TS I was only kidding don't worry. | | | |
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