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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:41 6 Oct 2014

Wow... self righteousness seeping through every pore - afterall you're never f*cking wrong are you! Anything that disagrees with your sensitive views is wrong and you will go out of your way to belittle it.

F*ck this! I'm sick of this sh1t. Adios!
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:39 6 Oct 2014

Both examples dumb?

The point, as you've clearly missed, was comments, chants and banners that will "antagonise" and rile up the opposition.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:36 6 Oct 2014

So what do you call people who come from Israel.

Although technically they are Israeli's... many people refer to them generally as Jews. What happened to those Pro-palestinian/Anti-Israel threads here a while back - I'm sure there were a number of references there that didn't appear to raise an eyebrow.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:26 6 Oct 2014

Awesome - we have someone here actually reading the thread!

Well done fella! Beginning to think a two-way discussion was an impossibility here. Someone having a talk without claiming this thread should be banned or binned for doing so.

My counter suggestion to that though is, what about our "F*ck Cardiff" signs and Anti-English chanting. What is the fine line between what is racism and just "something to wind up the opposition?".
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:17 6 Oct 2014

And anti-Islamic banner ISN'T racist you tool!

ISLAM isn't a race!

Just typifies the qualify of conversation you can have here really.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:16 6 Oct 2014

As I said - can't have a proper conversation on this board anymore!
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:10 6 Oct 2014

What do you thnk it was made for?

What do you think the sign Trunds was photographed holding that said "F*ck Cardiff"?? What do you think the song "We hate Cardiff" is chanted in the stands for? Or our very own "England is full of sh*t".

It's to wind up the opposition fans and get them angry I've always thought.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:04 6 Oct 2014

Well that was the aim. The intention of the photo was to show people what we're talking about - as clearly the link doesn't show it and not everyone will know what it said.

We can't erase something that's already happened.

The source of the image was the Daily Mail by the way.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 19:00 6 Oct 2014

How can you determine, from this sign, that there is "hatred"?

Had to be there I suppose. Anyway - the discussion is lost of most here. 'Let's all jump down someone's throat before understanding the point' brigade are in full effect tonight.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 18:50 6 Oct 2014

Seen a couple myself - just not made a big deal of it. However, thought I'd raise the question here as I saw this story....Semi-expecting a more mature discussion of it maybe?

Clearly not.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 18:48 6 Oct 2014

Which is one of my points Lisa.

Racism isn't often seen down our stadium - which is a good thing. But we tend to accept we're being called " Welsh Sheepshaggers" even though, and as you say, it's derogatory.

Haven't seen any other clubs get penalised like this though for being racially derogatory towards us.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 18:43 6 Oct 2014

Wow.... so may self-righteous people here tonight! Sensitive dabs.

Going back to the question, and the point in question - what here is different to what we see against US as a club?!

So get off your high horses - it's a valid question! We've seen signs calling us "Sheepshaggers" and "welsh c*nts".

And no, this thread isn't condoning anything - it's to get a debate going! Too many people seem lively enough to jump in to think the worst all the time of people.

Source of the photo? Dailymail.
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Would you say this was racist?
at 18:11 6 Oct 2014

The punishment was the result of the sign.

As already mentioned - isn't it more an insult or derogatory, rather than 'racist'?
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Would you say this was racist?
at 18:00 6 Oct 2014

Not too sure about it being racist myself. People can't call Jews, Jews now?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29263340



No worse calling us all 'sheepshaggers' surely?!
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Gomis 7 million release clause
at 16:54 6 Oct 2014

As we are all to acutely aware - agents have a tendancy to stir up sh1t too!

Some people just can't accept the fact they must compete for their position and maintain a solid performance...... to, you know... justify their pay and regular performance.
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Gomis 7 million release clause
at 16:27 6 Oct 2014

Not this again.

On the run up to the last transfer window where Bony's was allegedly £9mill, £12 mill and £19 mill.

Best bet? Wait and see - probably all paper talk billox though.
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Why are we so slow on the counter attack?
at 20:50 4 Oct 2014

Weren't slow on the counter against Everton though were we.

More urgency is required - faster ball movements and passes while keeping accuracy are paramount to our style of play in this league!
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I thought the referee.
at 20:39 4 Oct 2014

Wouldn't say 'good'... just 'better' than the others.

Still think Jonjo's card was dubious.
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Emnes
at 18:07 4 Oct 2014

I'll just sit back and assume DYSS has spiked everyones drink with his special negative sauce.

This was a poor performance - but going OTT just makes you look dumb. We're far from in crisis - and to slate TWO players?!?

If anyone is to blame today it's MONK. Clearly!

Any why not post something positive - such as BONY SCORING HIS FIRST LEAGUE GOAL?!
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Neil Taylor
at 18:02 4 Oct 2014

I think you need to sit down and chill for a while before you turn into DYSS.

Taylor has lost his style that we loved before his injury. Whether this will come back - I don't know. But Taylor wasn't the only one on the pitch today.

If he can step up his game and recover what he's lost, then I'd be extremely happy.
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