Konchesky on 11:49 - Aug 19 with 4351 views | RANGERS4EVER | Wouldn't be a bad signing, better than any Left Back we have, but I still think Baird would be better signing, and there probably are younger options that could be found | |
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Konchesky on 12:07 - Aug 19 with 4313 views | imustbemad | Why cant we coach the players we have here already or but a young left back we can make into a better player. Buying Konchesky is wrong on so many fronts. He may well be good enough and help us get promotion but if/when we get promoted he will no longer be good enough and we will have to replace him. fcuking madness and TF is talking up his arris | | | |
Konchesky on 12:12 - Aug 19 with 4288 views | mikeygunn | We are clearly trying to get a former England XI! | | | |
Konchesky on 12:17 - Aug 19 with 4261 views | fakekerby | Would be a good signing. Started Leicester's first two games, 1 goal conceded, so a good defender and weakens a rival. Harry's policy seems to be working so far, so we should give it a chance even if it is a bit short-termist, but we know Harry wants to go up this year, and this year only. | | | |
Konchesky on 12:21 - Aug 19 with 4238 views | Gloucs_R |
Konchesky on 12:17 - Aug 19 by fakekerby | Would be a good signing. Started Leicester's first two games, 1 goal conceded, so a good defender and weakens a rival. Harry's policy seems to be working so far, so we should give it a chance even if it is a bit short-termist, but we know Harry wants to go up this year, and this year only. |
Exactly. IMO Harry will get a large bonus for getting us up and will then retire. So he is bringing in players who will get us up. Then it will be handed over to someone else next year, probably Mclaren, to keep us up. | |
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Konchesky on 13:01 - Aug 19 with 4140 views | baz_qpr |
Konchesky on 12:21 - Aug 19 by Gloucs_R | Exactly. IMO Harry will get a large bonus for getting us up and will then retire. So he is bringing in players who will get us up. Then it will be handed over to someone else next year, probably Mclaren, to keep us up. |
Is that why we are putting together Mclaren's 2006/7 England squad | | | |
Konchesky on 13:18 - Aug 19 with 4084 views | ozranger |
Konchesky on 12:17 - Aug 19 by fakekerby | Would be a good signing. Started Leicester's first two games, 1 goal conceded, so a good defender and weakens a rival. Harry's policy seems to be working so far, so we should give it a chance even if it is a bit short-termist, but we know Harry wants to go up this year, and this year only. |
Yes he may be a good signing, but your logic is unsound. This was the same logic we signed Bosingwa - played in a defence that did well. I am not saying he is bad, but we need to look at the player, not the team or defence he has come from. | | | |
Konchesky on 13:24 - Aug 19 with 4050 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Konchesky on 12:12 - Aug 19 by mikeygunn | We are clearly trying to get a former England XI! |
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Konchesky on 13:29 - Aug 19 with 4034 views | HOOPNO7 | I don't mind us signing Konchesky and others as a short term fix. We just need to start using the youngsters as subs to let them gain experience. Saturday was a good example, Hithcock on for a poor Zamora. 2 Points gained instead of lost. | | | |
Konchesky on 13:40 - Aug 19 with 3999 views | RBlock | Would be a good signing in the short term, but we do need to keep integrating Yun in to the team. Hill as cover I'm not so keen so, would rather have him in the centre. | | | |
Konchesky on 13:41 - Aug 19 with 3995 views | DANRANGER |
Konchesky on 13:18 - Aug 19 by ozranger | Yes he may be a good signing, but your logic is unsound. This was the same logic we signed Bosingwa - played in a defence that did well. I am not saying he is bad, but we need to look at the player, not the team or defence he has come from. |
Konchesky can't really be compared to Bosingwa. Bosingwa was an expensive risk that didn't pay off but you pretty much know what you're getting with Konchesky and he would arrive on modest wages. We clearly need a left back and he is very capable. However, I would prefer a younger option so if we did get promoted we can have a back four that could stay together but it would appear the club and Harry in particular are desperate to get back this year and our scouting system is only based on well known British players. Our team this year seems to be a Championship version of West Ham as they have put together a side that doesn't have a great deal of players they can sell on but I'm sure they aren't complaining too much as they will not be worrying about relegation and maybe in the background they are working to the future. | | | |
Konchesky on 13:54 - Aug 19 with 3937 views | Antti_Heinola | Good to see our scouting network working so hard as usual. Christ. Konchesky is fine. But he's 32. Should be automatically ruled out on that basis alone. Too many short term fixes. | |
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Konchesky on 14:04 - Aug 19 with 3905 views | BromleyHoop |
Konchesky on 13:40 - Aug 19 by RBlock | Would be a good signing in the short term, but we do need to keep integrating Yun in to the team. Hill as cover I'm not so keen so, would rather have him in the centre. |
He wouldn't be a good short term signing unless we're offering him a one year contract which is highly unlikely. And even them I'm not personally convinced If we get promoted then we're left with a 33 year old left back who showed when he was at Liverpool that he just ain't good enough anymore. We have Yun who I can't help but feel is a perfectly good player at this level and may actually do a job in the Premiership. If this transfer goes through then TF wants his fecking head testing. It clearly shows he'd have learnt nothing from the last two years. | |
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Konchesky on 14:09 - Aug 19 with 3892 views | fakekerby |
Konchesky on 14:04 - Aug 19 by BromleyHoop | He wouldn't be a good short term signing unless we're offering him a one year contract which is highly unlikely. And even them I'm not personally convinced If we get promoted then we're left with a 33 year old left back who showed when he was at Liverpool that he just ain't good enough anymore. We have Yun who I can't help but feel is a perfectly good player at this level and may actually do a job in the Premiership. If this transfer goes through then TF wants his fecking head testing. It clearly shows he'd have learnt nothing from the last two years. |
We offered 1 year deals to O'Neil and Dunne, so I wouldn't be so sure he would get a deal much longer than that. [Post edited 19 Aug 2013 14:10]
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Konchesky on 14:16 - Aug 19 with 3860 views | adhoc_qpr |
Konchesky on 14:04 - Aug 19 by BromleyHoop | He wouldn't be a good short term signing unless we're offering him a one year contract which is highly unlikely. And even them I'm not personally convinced If we get promoted then we're left with a 33 year old left back who showed when he was at Liverpool that he just ain't good enough anymore. We have Yun who I can't help but feel is a perfectly good player at this level and may actually do a job in the Premiership. If this transfer goes through then TF wants his fecking head testing. It clearly shows he'd have learnt nothing from the last two years. |
You can't write him off based on that spell at Liverpool - that team was a complete shambles and no one looked good (like us last season). Joe Cole apparently was also finished based on his time at Liverpool but seems pretty good for West Ham this weekend. | | | |
Konchesky on 14:45 - Aug 19 with 3823 views | Antti_Heinola |
Konchesky on 14:16 - Aug 19 by adhoc_qpr | You can't write him off based on that spell at Liverpool - that team was a complete shambles and no one looked good (like us last season). Joe Cole apparently was also finished based on his time at Liverpool but seems pretty good for West Ham this weekend. |
Cole was ok. He does look virtually finished to me - good goal though. The point is not individual players, though. It's about looking at the team. West Ham have quite a decent mix of old and young. Taken in isolation, there's nothing wrong with O'Neil, Parker, Konchesky, Dunne, Jenas etc etc but when you're constantly signing players who will only give you one or at the most two seasons, you're in trouble. That's where we've been for years now - buying players that are sticking plasters. Konchesky would be fine this year. But next season he'd have to be replaced. We need continuity - that's how team spirit is built. Fed up with short term fixes. | |
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Konchesky on 14:50 - Aug 19 with 3800 views | fakekerby |
Konchesky on 14:45 - Aug 19 by Antti_Heinola | Cole was ok. He does look virtually finished to me - good goal though. The point is not individual players, though. It's about looking at the team. West Ham have quite a decent mix of old and young. Taken in isolation, there's nothing wrong with O'Neil, Parker, Konchesky, Dunne, Jenas etc etc but when you're constantly signing players who will only give you one or at the most two seasons, you're in trouble. That's where we've been for years now - buying players that are sticking plasters. Konchesky would be fine this year. But next season he'd have to be replaced. We need continuity - that's how team spirit is built. Fed up with short term fixes. |
It's true we've bought more than our fair share of short term fixes, but let's not forget also in or around the starting eleven we have: Onouha Simpson YSY/Traore Faurlin Hoilett Austin All of whom have a decent number of years left in the tank and could perform in the Prem in the right set up (the two left backs aside). | | | |
Konchesky on 15:50 - Aug 19 with 3740 views | jamois | I'm a YSY fan. Just coach the bugger. The fact he's not an English player probably means he's got more brain cells and is actually likely to keep improving. | |
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Konchesky on 15:52 - Aug 19 with 3726 views | wombat |
Konchesky on 15:50 - Aug 19 by jamois | I'm a YSY fan. Just coach the bugger. The fact he's not an English player probably means he's got more brain cells and is actually likely to keep improving. |
heard suk young had fallen out with arry at the weekend anyway seems suk young offered to walk rosie and the dogs not been seen since hence why hill played saturday at full back | |
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Konchesky on 15:58 - Aug 19 with 3713 views | jamois |
Konchesky on 15:52 - Aug 19 by wombat | heard suk young had fallen out with arry at the weekend anyway seems suk young offered to walk rosie and the dogs not been seen since hence why hill played saturday at full back |
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Konchesky on 19:36 - Aug 19 with 3519 views | derbyhoop | Traore doesn't want to be here. He's so fragile, it barely matters if he did want to be a Ranger. Yun is still very raw. Neither have looked that great defensively, which is probably why Hill played LB on Saturday. If we get Konchesky, he'll slot straight into a "problem" position. Personally, I'd prefer to see us trying to develop Yun but we'll not get by with 1 LB or a CB filling in. | |
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