| Out of Contract players 09:44 - May 14 with 2552 views | Jamie |
Who would you keep?:
Agyemang
Balanta
Borrowdale
Buzsaky
Cerny
Cook
Dyer 
Gabbidon
Hall
Hill
Perone
Ramage
Shittu
Vine
For me, Hill has to get another year, possibly another year for Buzsaky but his injuries seem to have caught up with him.
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| Out of Contract players on 11:57 - May 14 with 667 views | eastside_r |
| Out of Contract players on 11:47 - May 14 by Tonto |
Having read what others have written, this maybe controversial, but my answer is:
none of them - and yes that includes Hill.
I have loved Clint Hill's determination, and how he has been the leader of that defence. But - he is too old and slow for the premiership unless we are playing Stoke every week, which we are not. the first aqusisitons I hope we make are 2 CBs and a GK.
If we gave Hill a contract it would be for sympathy only (as with Shittu this year), as if he is our regular CB we are in trouble nect year IMO. he would be nothing more than a back up. Why give a new contract to some old pro who is only going to be a back up.
the same applies to Buzz (albeit to a lesser extent).
Cerny is going to retire - his back is knackered.
a bit blunt - but reality... [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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At last a note of realism.
MH will now want to stamp his authority all over the squad. If I were MH I would say to Clint ' the very best I can offer you is a place on the bench, because of the new players I will be bringing in. Your decision.'
However I am not MH and I don't think that conversation will take place. They will all be released.
Best of luck to Clint, he's been magnificent the last few games, I suspect he will end up at Leeds with NW. |  | | |
| Out of Contract players on 12:03 - May 14 with 652 views | gobbles |
Of that list, Hughes has only really played 2 - Hill and Buzsaky, who have featured in virtually every games, so I would expect them to stay, even if they are only back-ups.
I'd question the future of Young and Traore too, as they seem to be out of favour and must be on huge money, plus Smith, Kenny and anyone who is still under contract and not in the 25.
Can't see us signing more than 4-5 players in the summer. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Out of Contract players on 12:07 - May 14 with 647 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Out of Contract players on 11:57 - May 14 by eastside_r |
At last a note of realism.
MH will now want to stamp his authority all over the squad. If I were MH I would say to Clint ' the very best I can offer you is a place on the bench, because of the new players I will be bringing in. Your decision.'
However I am not MH and I don't think that conversation will take place. They will all be released.
Best of luck to Clint, he's been magnificent the last few games, I suspect he will end up at Leeds with NW. |
I disagree entirely, Hill is well worth another year.
Playing wise next season Hill would be a back up, but he has proven over the last 2 months he can be relied upon. He's stood up against the best Arsenal, Spurs and Man City have to offer and done us proud.
Also though is the intangible factors. Having a great pro with Hill's attitude and leadership in the squad will easily offset the value of his wages for another year.
If we release him we'll have to sign a replacement backup defender, who will be an unknown, unproven quantity who needs to integrate to the squad. | | | |
| Out of Contract players on 12:10 - May 14 with 635 views | eastside_r |
| Out of Contract players on 12:07 - May 14 by adhoc_qpr |
I disagree entirely, Hill is well worth another year.
Playing wise next season Hill would be a back up, but he has proven over the last 2 months he can be relied upon. He's stood up against the best Arsenal, Spurs and Man City have to offer and done us proud.
Also though is the intangible factors. Having a great pro with Hill's attitude and leadership in the squad will easily offset the value of his wages for another year.
If we release him we'll have to sign a replacement backup defender, who will be an unknown, unproven quantity who needs to integrate to the squad. |
You did not understand what I posted. I think Hill is worth another year, but I don't think that's the way MH will see it. | | | |
| Out of Contract players on 13:19 - May 14 with 590 views | CockRHoop |
No sentiment in football I know but a shame people are quite happy to just say get rid of Cook, he is shit!! I know he doesn't have a place in the team any more but he was quality for us in his day and don't forget the transfer fee money he gave us when we were right in the shit financially!!!!! QPR fan who didn't forget us when he was on the way up!! | | | |
| Out of Contract players on 13:26 - May 14 with 579 views | gobbles |
| Out of Contract players on 13:19 - May 14 by CockRHoop |
No sentiment in football I know but a shame people are quite happy to just say get rid of Cook, he is shit!! I know he doesn't have a place in the team any more but he was quality for us in his day and don't forget the transfer fee money he gave us when we were right in the shit financially!!!!! QPR fan who didn't forget us when he was on the way up!! |
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| Out of Contract players on 13:29 - May 14 with 567 views | aston_hoop |
Hill definitely. Cant really see any of the others being of much use, in fact cant see many of them being of any use to anyone |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 13:31 - May 14 with 560 views | CockRHoop |
| Out of Contract players on 13:26 - May 14 by gobbles |
Welcome to the world of Premier League fans. Everyone is either a legend or sh1t to some |
Is a shame, but true!! Nice to see a bit of respect for the good guys though - Shittu being the other on the list! | | | |
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| Out of Contract players on 14:08 - May 14 with 515 views | westberksr |
Hill has proven that he is capable of playing at this level; grnated he isn't the quickest but makes up for it with timing, effort and concentration.
Of the others only Buz has really played any role under Hughes & that has tended to be due to others being injured or suspended so I expect he'll be shown the door. MH will want more athletic replacements and I expect to see fresh blood.
Ramage is a fair CCL CB and no doubt a few others will get a gig somewhere but none are of suitable quality to stay with us and they've all done OK out of it.
All the best to the likes of Ramage, Cook, Buz and Shittu for their efforts over the years. |  | | |
| Out of Contract players on 14:33 - May 14 with 491 views | VancouverHoop |
Ferdinand needs a Hill-like player beside him – albeit one with more speed and skill plus the ability and confidence to captain a defence that Hill has. Until Hughes is absolutely certain he's found someone, and that means playing him for more than a handful of matches, it would be silly to let Hill go. | | | |
| Out of Contract players on 14:41 - May 14 with 479 views | Sharpy |
Hill, without a doubt.
What`s the story with Hogan ? |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 14:46 - May 14 with 469 views | A40Bosh |
I think that looking at Diakite and Taiwo will give you an idea of the type of player we should expect to be coming into the squad over the summer and therefore if you run a finger over that potential exit list, I think only Hill will be kept on as recognition of the large part he played in bringing some well needed steel to our back four during the run in.
Ageymang might have fit the bill physically, but unfortunately his one shortcoming will have been outed by now by the new regime......he isn't a footballer. |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 15:04 - May 14 with 444 views | Jamie |
| Out of Contract players on 14:41 - May 14 by Sharpy |
Hill, without a doubt.
What`s the story with Hogan ? |
Ephraim got a 12 month extension. Sensible from the club as we can get a few for him this summer rather than releasing him. | | | |
| Out of Contract players on 15:08 - May 14 with 437 views | derbyhoop |
| Out of Contract players on 11:47 - May 14 by Tonto |
Having read what others have written, this maybe controversial, but my answer is:
none of them - and yes that includes Hill.
I have loved Clint Hill's determination, and how he has been the leader of that defence. But - he is too old and slow for the premiership unless we are playing Stoke every week, which we are not. the first aqusisitons I hope we make are 2 CBs and a GK.
If we gave Hill a contract it would be for sympathy only (as with Shittu this year), as if he is our regular CB we are in trouble nect year IMO. he would be nothing more than a back up. Why give a new contract to some old pro who is only going to be a back up.
the same applies to Buzz (albeit to a lesser extent).
Cerny is going to retire - his back is knackered.
a bit blunt - but reality... [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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This thread replicates a debate we had in the car on the way up. From the list, only Hill as a definite.
Buzsaky, possibly. But only as a squad player, with wages and contract length to reflect that.
More controversially, I'd offer either Hall or Gabbidon a 1 year extension, on Championship level wages. First one to accept gets a deal, the other gets shown the way out.
In both the latter cases, my idea reflects the need for a squad - without bringing in another 5 or 6 new faces.
I thought smith, derry and helguson were also out of contract and, if so, I'm not convinced we should offer new deals to any of the 3. |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 15:23 - May 14 with 423 views | kensalriser |
Balanta?
Bonkers. |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 15:25 - May 14 with 414 views | timcocking |
Only Hill i'm afraid |  | | |
| Out of Contract players on 15:43 - May 14 with 396 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Out of Contract players on 11:47 - May 14 by Tonto |
Having read what others have written, this maybe controversial, but my answer is:
none of them - and yes that includes Hill.
I have loved Clint Hill's determination, and how he has been the leader of that defence. But - he is too old and slow for the premiership unless we are playing Stoke every week, which we are not. the first aqusisitons I hope we make are 2 CBs and a GK.
If we gave Hill a contract it would be for sympathy only (as with Shittu this year), as if he is our regular CB we are in trouble nect year IMO. he would be nothing more than a back up. Why give a new contract to some old pro who is only going to be a back up.
the same applies to Buzz (albeit to a lesser extent).
Cerny is going to retire - his back is knackered.
a bit blunt - but reality... [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Hate to say it, but I think that might be right.
BTW I think calling Matt Connoly a waster, as someone did above, is a bit strong. Decent enough Champ defender when he first signed, but not good enough for the Prem | | | |
| Out of Contract players on 16:23 - May 14 with 359 views | Antti_Heinola |
A centre back must be top of the shopping list, and a commanding one at that. But it's worth keeping Hill because there will always be injuries and suspensions, plus he deserves it. |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 16:28 - May 14 with 352 views | DylanP |
I am surprised people are giving Cerny so little credit. He came in a did a good job when Paddy was injured. He is a really good #2 goalie and I don't see us picking up any better unless we are willing to pay big bucks for a back-up.
Obviously, I would keep Hill around for another year or two. He was player of the year for me and no reason why he couldn't do a job for us next year.
I would think about keeping Buzz and be very tempted but in the end I would hope to pick up a replacement in the summer. He had his moments this season but, in the end, they were too few and far between. |  |
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| Out of Contract players on 16:33 - May 14 with 344 views | nadera78 |
| Out of Contract players on 16:28 - May 14 by DylanP |
I am surprised people are giving Cerny so little credit. He came in a did a good job when Paddy was injured. He is a really good #2 goalie and I don't see us picking up any better unless we are willing to pay big bucks for a back-up.
Obviously, I would keep Hill around for another year or two. He was player of the year for me and no reason why he couldn't do a job for us next year.
I would think about keeping Buzz and be very tempted but in the end I would hope to pick up a replacement in the summer. He had his moments this season but, in the end, they were too few and far between. |
Craig Gordon and Joe Lewis are out contract this summer and are both better and younger than Cerny.
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