| Union Jacks & Loyalists 09:18 - Nov 25 with 46773 views | SwanSwan |
I noticed a new flag yesterday which I assume to be a loyalist flag. The Ulster hand and Rangers badge with Union Jack colours. Just wondering what the significance of this is?
I don't personally see how this or the Union Jack represents Swansea in any way. I get that plenty people identify as British but given the Union Jack is a amalgamation of each flag in the union aside from Wales why would we choose to display it in a Welsh football ground? Its almost seems welcoming to our opposition.
Do those that fly these flags not consider themselves Welsh too? Is there another political agenda at play here? Looking for an explanation of the Swansea Loyalist subculture really.
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:36 - Nov 25 with 2752 views | Loyal |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:34 - Nov 25 by byron |
Very embarrassing for normal jacks. Shame you can’t get enough together to rid them, politics needs to kept away from football. Just look at the state of Glasgow because if it. |
Republican followers and loyalists at both our clubs, fck me it's been the same for years.Ex players from both our teams following England etc ... It's all tied in. |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:38 - Nov 25 with 2749 views | jackrmee |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:33 - Nov 25 by Loyal |
Or the perception of people loading them all in to one bracket.
There in is the problem. |
We are all in one bracket though. That's the whole point of everyone being in the stand.
We are all supporting the club.
We are not all supporting loyalists, or republicans, so why is the flag there? I may not want to be associated with it, but I am, as I am perceived to be part of the same fan base by onlookers. |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:39 - Nov 25 with 2750 views | Lohengrin |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:32 - Nov 25 by Kilkennyjack |
I had a ticket in the West for the Ipswich game, and indeed there was a Moslim lady fan in a swans home top and matching white hajib.
Fair play ... our club is now for everyone ðŸ‘. |
My mate is a motorcycle fanatic. He’s got a big Manx flag hanging in his garage. I’ll see if I can borrow it one week and fetch it down for a match.
It would make Clasey’s day. Ought to start a good six-pager thread on here.  |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:41 - Nov 25 with 2738 views | Loyal |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:38 - Nov 25 by jackrmee |
We are all in one bracket though. That's the whole point of everyone being in the stand.
We are all supporting the club.
We are not all supporting loyalists, or republicans, so why is the flag there? I may not want to be associated with it, but I am, as I am perceived to be part of the same fan base by onlookers. |
That's the problem with judgemental people, it's not much different to three Cardiff fans bringing two flags each to an international game. Which is what they used to do to give the impression they were in the majority, which they most certainly were not.
It leaves an impression however flawed. [Post edited 25 Nov 2018 12:47]
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:59 - Nov 25 with 2694 views | jackrmee |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:41 - Nov 25 by Loyal |
That's the problem with judgemental people, it's not much different to three Cardiff fans bringing two flags each to an international game. Which is what they used to do to give the impression they were in the majority, which they most certainly were not.
It leaves an impression however flawed. [Post edited 25 Nov 2018 12:47]
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I guess I see the similarity.
But my point is the same.
I wouldn't want to be associated with those Cardiff flags, same as I don't want to be associated with loyalist flags. | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:03 - Nov 25 with 2686 views | byron |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:41 - Nov 25 by Loyal |
That's the problem with judgemental people, it's not much different to three Cardiff fans bringing two flags each to an international game. Which is what they used to do to give the impression they were in the majority, which they most certainly were not.
It leaves an impression however flawed. [Post edited 25 Nov 2018 12:47]
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Wales support away has always been majority bluebirds, if you can’t accept that, you need help.
The games I went to in the 90’s we never saw any, the odd two maybe together, that’s it.
You have more these days but mainly due to your clubs rise, Wales doing the best they ever have and many Cardiff nutters not going anymore. |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:10 - Nov 25 with 2682 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:36 - Nov 25 by jackrmee |
It's great to have that Muslim lady as a fan, but surely if she brought a Sharia Law flag, with "Swans Loyal" written on it, that would be frowned upon by one or 2? |
I can confirm she came to watch the football like everyone else, and had no flag.
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:12 - Nov 25 with 2675 views | JackSomething |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:03 - Nov 25 by byron |
Wales support away has always been majority bluebirds, if you can’t accept that, you need help.
The games I went to in the 90’s we never saw any, the odd two maybe together, that’s it.
You have more these days but mainly due to your clubs rise, Wales doing the best they ever have and many Cardiff nutters not going anymore. |
Did you go around asking every fan who they supported then? Otherwise, you're talking shit. As usual. |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:16 - Nov 25 with 2662 views | jackrmee |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:10 - Nov 25 by Kilkennyjack |
I can confirm she came to watch the football like everyone else, and had no flag.
Happy to help 👠|
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:18 - Nov 25 with 2658 views | shandyjack |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:03 - Nov 25 by byron |
Wales support away has always been majority bluebirds, if you can’t accept that, you need help.
The games I went to in the 90’s we never saw any, the odd two maybe together, that’s it.
You have more these days but mainly due to your clubs rise, Wales doing the best they ever have and many Cardiff nutters not going anymore. |
What absolute nonsense |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:22 - Nov 25 with 2652 views | Dr_Winston |
Three pages of response to an obvious fishing trip. Must be a dull Sunday. |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:43 - Nov 25 with 2621 views | SwanSwan |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:22 - Nov 25 by Dr_Winston |
Three pages of response to an obvious fishing trip. Must be a dull Sunday. |
I asked what I felt was a valid question given the appearance of the loyalist flag and there some good discussion and explanations with mostly respectful responses from all despite what side their identity/opinion! 👠| | | |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:46 - Nov 25 with 2614 views | Humpty |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:30 - Nov 25 by Loyal |
What are you spouting on about now you silly piss tank. Of course there has been a Birmingham flag for many years in the 90's plus Dudley I've seen, clearly you are sat on your potty with an arse wiper stood behind you is clearly affecting your eyesight and comprehension of everyday things. |
Silly piss tank is possibly one of the best insults I've ever seen on here, and we've had some good ones.
Well done. |  | | |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:51 - Nov 25 with 2601 views | byron |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:36 - Nov 25 by Loyal |
Republican followers and loyalists at both our clubs, fck me it's been the same for years.Ex players from both our teams following England etc ... It's all tied in. |
I know we had them, they would never display flags about it at ninian park though, it wouldn’t last a minute up. | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:53 - Nov 25 with 2602 views | Dr_Winston |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:43 - Nov 25 by SwanSwan |
I asked what I felt was a valid question given the appearance of the loyalist flag and there some good discussion and explanations with mostly respectful responses from all despite what side their identity/opinion! 👠|
Of course you did. | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 15:04 - Nov 25 with 2552 views | toulouse |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 11:38 - Nov 25 by trampie |
Football is tribal, the more passionate the support base the more hostile the environment for the opposition, Swansea did rank as a passionate fanbase back in the day, Swansea is now in danger of losing its identity [as a Welsh team representing people from its community]. |
Woohoo. A flag thread. F*ck all changes on this sh*te site. |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 15:18 - Nov 25 with 2535 views | DJack |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 15:04 - Nov 25 by toulouse |
Woohoo. A flag thread. F*ck all changes on this sh*te site. |
Wooho, you're back! 
Did you leave for a bit or had you just given up posting? |  |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 16:00 - Nov 25 with 2498 views | jack247 |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 12:38 - Nov 25 by jackrmee |
We are all in one bracket though. That's the whole point of everyone being in the stand.
We are all supporting the club.
We are not all supporting loyalists, or republicans, so why is the flag there? I may not want to be associated with it, but I am, as I am perceived to be part of the same fan base by onlookers. |
That’s exactly right.
Everyone has their own politics. Not everyone feels the need to use a football match as a vehicle to cockwave about them. | | | |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 16:41 - Nov 25 with 2447 views | Lohengrin |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 15:04 - Nov 25 by toulouse |
Woohoo. A flag thread. F*ck all changes on this sh*te site. |
Well, you started it! | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 16:51 - Nov 25 with 2432 views | toulouse |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 16:41 - Nov 25 by Lohengrin |
Well, you started it! |
Yes, yes I did. Under the influence of a person with a similar name to mine 😂 | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 16:53 - Nov 25 with 2430 views | Lohengrin |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 16:51 - Nov 25 by toulouse |
Yes, yes I did. Under the influence of a person with a similar name to mine 😂 |
Those were the days, fella’! | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 17:54 - Nov 25 with 2387 views | JacksawayatWalesgame |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 11:32 - Nov 25 by SwanSwan |
Thank you for the explanation Lohengrin, no twisted nickers here.
My eyes weren't good enough to identify the words but ‘Quis Seperabit?’ does seem to fit the bill. A quick search translates it to
"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?" and is associated with Ulster Unionism.
All good with the decent lads supporting the swans but not sure this form of political symbolism belongs on show at a Welsh football club. |
Football is all about tribalism, and there's nothing wrong with that if it stays as banter and doesn't turn nasty. Unfortunately when it's also tied in with religious bigotry then, as we know, it does turn nasty. The Rangers/Celtic thing is probably the best (or should I say worst) example of this. Two groups of "Christians" who absolutely hate each other just because Henry Vlll created a spin-off faction in the 1500s because the Pope wouldn't let him get divorced. A bit silly really isn't it ? The people in both groups should have a bit of perspective and realise they're not all that different really. Hug it out lads. | | | |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 18:03 - Nov 25 with 2370 views | Loyal |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:46 - Nov 25 by Humpty |
Silly piss tank is possibly one of the best insults I've ever seen on here, and we've had some good ones.
Well done. |
Piss tank © Loyal. | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 18:05 - Nov 25 with 2366 views | Loyal |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:51 - Nov 25 by byron |
I know we had them, they would never display flags about it at ninian park though, it wouldn’t last a minute up. |
I'm pretty certain knowing some of your lads of that disposition it wouldn't have ended well. | |
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| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 18:17 - Nov 25 with 2352 views | Loyal |
| Union Jacks & Loyalists on 13:03 - Nov 25 by byron |
Wales support away has always been majority bluebirds, if you can’t accept that, you need help.
The games I went to in the 90’s we never saw any, the odd two maybe together, that’s it.
You have more these days but mainly due to your clubs rise, Wales doing the best they ever have and many Cardiff nutters not going anymore. |
This is the problem, the absolute nonsense that if you say something repeatedly every day even the bloody stupid will believe it.
Point in case, Scotland v Wales 1997, not bloody one of you turned up, full of it, and the hundreds of jacks there in kilmarnock. Listen you turn out for the big games and rarely for anything else. You only know what you choose to believe. I've been with loads of jacks at many Wales games, Cyprus away a few years back ... Majority were Wrexham and Swansea. Italy away granted a huge Cardiff turn out when Toozy toppled a few. Don't make out we only go because your hooligans have stopped going, they only ever mouthed off when they were in the majority as many on here know.
As I said Kilmarnock 1997, the game your so called thugs were found out for what they are, bullies. Not a peep, have a lovely Sunday dreaming up new posts. Check out Abraham's website for even more lies and bullshit x 💋 | |
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