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Reply | where and why has it gone wrong?
at 08:58 16 Feb 2025
Ronald has been surprisingly good at fullback he gets a foot in, gets closer to wingers not allowing them the acres of space, hasn't struggled under the high ball as much as others in the fullback position, he does get caught by wingers skilled footwork being a bit naive but we have struggled to stifle attacks on the wings almost all season both Key and Tymon have given opposition wingers time and space similar to last season and beyond to Martin's reign playing 5 at the back that still hasn't changed.
Would we be better off if Key played in front of Ronald similar to Coopers reign with four at the back as he has a slightly better ball control when running at players similar to Parker and are both quicker off the mark.
The goals yesterday came from set plays, one a very rash challenge by Cabango at one of the few times the winger got passed Ronald not through foot work, he got outnumbered maybe he did try chasing the ball a bit but the cover wasn't close enough hence the rash challenge, the second goal was the result of Francos intial mistimed challenge out wide being beaten by the winger, Ronald got back to cover and it was debatable about who gave the freekick away Franco chasing back making a challenge from the wrong side or Ronald tracking back trying sensibly to get between the winger and the ball?
Either way both set pieces badly defended as have number of our set plays in defence and similaly in attack have been executed. Maybe through lack of height in defences and attack.
The selection up front was a bit stupid, Ollie Cooper selected for his work rates and sensible ability to cover, Eom for his work rate and movement off the ball and Cullenfor a possible goal threat and workrate but neither of those three are going to threaten in the air and yet we persist in high crosses looked much better with whipped in low crosses.
The midfield duo picks its self Franco and O'Brien and in both the Stoke and Sheffield Wed games we kepted it tight in defence in the first half and early into the second half although not setting the world on fire we had a point in our grasp in both games against Sheff Wed our substitutions didn't work and against Stoke theirs did but both substitutions were made around the 60min mark, In both case we left ourselves exposed defensively surely if substitutions are made you make sure you get into a good defensive shape to see how the substitutions affects the game instead of giving no regard to how substitutions affect our defensive shape and the opposition attacking shape.
At the moment I would go for 4-4-2 in attacking mode and 4-5-1 in defensive mode.
Ronald, Cabango, Darling and Delcroix(at left back) which gives us some height in the team.
Key, Franco, O'Brien, Tymon in the midfield both wide players tucking in and defending as necessary attacking again as necessary.
As for the top two someone who can compete aerially, has pace, defend in the midfield when needed and can score goals, none of Vipotnik, Eom, Cooper, Bianchini Pearl-Harris or Cullen possess all of those qualities so perm and two from six to find the right combinations. Ginnelly?
As we have had a number of changes since the transfer window, new players in, injured players coming back, a player banned we cannot go chasing games, losing points in the bag especially trying to go all out attack leaving ourselves exposed when we are ahead in games. Bad game management. |
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Reply | Luke Williams
at 20:23 13 Feb 2025
100% agreed school boy error similar to Vigouroux last minute error against Millwall players trying to force the play to gain an advantage but doing with no cover for individual
errors, why did Darling try the exact same pass straight after they had scored where they again we should have conceded. Mistakes made in dangerous areas of the pitch because our tactics meant we again struggled to get up the pitch but different tactics employed against Bristol after their initial onslaught.
Picked off as we have been against Millwall and multiple times this season because we didn't employ the right tactics to break down a stubborn defensive setup. [Post edited 13 Feb 20:27]
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Reply | Luke Williams
at 14:31 13 Feb 2025
Time for a change me thinks.
William's tried to change things during the first half but it didn't work, Second half continued with the idea that didn't work at the end of the first half and even though it didn't work he persisted with his flawed idea but to cap it all it is the same idea that didn't work before and didn't work for his mentor. Thought he had to have time to get used to his players and championship footie last season but by now he should be aware of his squad capabilities and pick his players and style of play to suit. |
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Reply | Swans v Owls : Darling gifts the points to Sheffield Wednesday
at 06:53 13 Feb 2025
I would say a 5 is harsh, in the away game he could affect our style of play, yesterday in the first part of the game we did play differently but William's forced that touchline hugging shape upon us that even O"Brien couldn't shift us from, leaving us pedestrian like to say the very least.
Free flowing through the middle gone Sheff Wed just waited for us to make the mistakes. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Sheffield Wednesday : Match day thread
at 06:41 13 Feb 2025
Very reminiscent of Wood last year coming back from injury where in his first got back just after half time his stupid pass was from the corner flag to the goalie Rushworth who under press mistimed his clearance leading to Martin's Southampton going 2-0 up killing the game off that was under Sheenhan's tenure and last game in charge but the Martin indoctrination of "the play must pass the ball to feet at all cost" remained in Wood's head, it is killing us leading to us being picked off, stupid passes in stupid areas of the pitch leaving us with no cover for those mistakes.
Stupid as is constantly pulling players out wide all the time to make the touchline look like a queue for a bus while leaving the chance to progress through the middle of the pitch redundant and up up the flank easy to defend.
Why do we persist in trying to play three or four supposedly clever short little passes among the two or three players who have fought hard to get back possession instead of then getting the ball out of the less crowded part of the pitch, stupid win the ball get it out of the congested area quickly to take advantage of space left in other areas of the pitch to allow us to get forward without a swarm of opposition players around us.
We caused Sheff Wed some problems with get Vipotnik when he had runners off him but we stopped doing it in the pursuit of playing down the wings putting crosses into to the box with no-one in there because half the forward midfielders have been on the wings to stand in he bus stop.
Williams changed things in that first half to a rigid format that the opposition covered easier we then tried to force the issue by giving stupid passes. Again. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Sheffield Wednesday : Match day thread
at 23:32 12 Feb 2025
I thought I saw William's change thing at some point in the first half, we weren't playing that bad but he changed it. It looked as if he was having a go a Tymon telling him to push up high and wide rather than what was working to a degree which was starting receiving from deep full back position with midfielders in front of him who he could make runs off enabling him to come onto the ball with ay that could get us up the park in numbers William issued his instructions Tymon to stay up high and hug the touchline it meant we then tried to progress the ball solely down the flank to poor effect.
In the second half at a stoppage in play it seemed as if Delacroix was asking Tymon to come short but Tymon seemed adamant that hugging the touch line high up the pitch was what he was asked to do which I presumed was happening give the hand gestures by the both players.
A change of tactic that failed but it is a tactic that has been shown to be folly so often, lack of movement filling the wings expecting them to produce something from a static start.
Game we didn't deserve to win but a game they really didn't really do enough to win the game without the gift we shared [Post edited 13 Feb 5:51]
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Reply | Where do we see our loaned out players...
at 04:52 12 Feb 2025
Nice to hear in the Indy report that Joel Cotterill is glad he is getting valuable game time under his belt and thinks he is progressing under Ian Hollloway just needs to be reassured that his future is in the Swansea squad next season not think he will be wasted here and longs to be back with Swindon next season, man management?
Full game last Saturday and he scored from the edge of the box. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Cardiff City U21
at 04:34 12 Feb 2025
Is it a case of the u21s following the lead of the first teams failings with the initial set up and style of at the start each half and directly after scoring goals? In all those cases the first team has a history of over playing especially deep in our half and getting our pants pulled down giving silly goals away. Did we almost suffer conceeding early against Bristol on Sunday and did the u21s suffer it yesterday? |
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Reply | Grimes for Wales
at 04:15 12 Feb 2025
Managing a winger with a hamstring issue who had to change to a different role for Man utd and look after his injury issue luckily an intelligent player, "football wise", able to adapt his game.
Hamstring injuries for wingers is like the kiss of death which can end top flight careers, look at Montero, didn't Michael Owen and Robbie Fowler suffer also because of them.
Yes I think Sir Alex did have a big say in things that in the end extended Gigg's career for both Man U and Wales. |
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Reply | Is he the Messiah?
at 18:35 11 Feb 2025
Is the right answer.  [Post edited 11 Feb 18:35]
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Reply | Luke Williams : Coleman was like a madman : I’ve got more experience than all
at 06:38 11 Feb 2025
Maybe Coleman needs to acknowledge the fact his skillset is not up to rigours of the job he thinks a Chairman of a football club needs, maybe Williams comments and assessment of Coleman's situation is right in that he needs better staff around him so he can delegate and share the load with others more qualified in different areas off the game than Coleman himself.
Makes you think who has authorised some of the poor signing we have had both before and during Coleman's reign some very hit and miss decisions, people being advised incorrectly or not qualified to make the right decision for the club. |
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Reply | Grimes for Wales
at 06:22 11 Feb 2025
Grimes in the Welsh team for me would be a huge step backwards. A number of Swansea managers have realised his weaknesses and because of his good points have tried to build their team around him to accommodate him.
Can you really see him commanding the central midfield at international level.
All for trying to find new players to build the ranks of the Welsh squad, the younger the better before they really prove they can excel at a higher level and use their belief in their Welsh nationality to secure there alleagence but if you are going to use an "Englishman" of an age, who has been overlooked by England surely you would be looking for someone already playing at the higher English Premier League level. Are those players in short supply, maybe they are because of the number of foreign players plying their trade in the EPL.
There do seem to be players of quality overlooked by Premier teams do you just have to look at Josh Sheehan deemed not good enough for the star studded Swansea team unable as a youngster to force his way into even a failing Premier league team now giving a good show of himself in a Welsh Shirt. You could add the likes of Cullen and Cooper into a category of players when looked at in isolation you would think would not be up to the international grade but as a team player fitted in to the benefit of the Welsh Squad.
Would Grimes benefit Wales adding numbers to the squad in a position we appear to be low in numbers maybe BUT at the moment I am more interested to know or confirm has he been one of the main issues that has held the Swansea team development back, shutting out potentially better players, can we really say having a single player in place in a failing team with good players around him not performing well for a long period of time has been a good thing? |
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Reply | Where do we see our loaned out players...
at 23:12 10 Feb 2025
Like what I have seen of Congreve coming on as sub at senior level and under 21s, what I don't understand is he makes the effort to track back with a player but doesn't get goal side so he can keep track of their movementt, invariably the opposition players movememt on Congreve's blindside is missed amd and amn attacking option is made. This not just a Congreve problem we have seen Grimes do it and it was a habit that Fulton had lost under Cooper but has.reappeared.
Their seems to be a habit of midfielder passing on opposing players to the backs but there aren't enough back to cover the numbers pressing forward .
Thought Congreve worked quite well with Joe Thomas in the under 21s. |
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Reply | Next 6 games
at 12:30 10 Feb 2025
We know he can play on the front foot it was our reliance on him on the back foot that scared the shit out of me.1 |
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Reply | Where do we see our loaned out players...
at 12:27 10 Feb 2025
Yes there does seem to be some deadwood but we have seen players unable to get into the starting eleven because of resident players keeping them out.
Just the addition of O'Brien has created a different mindset and able to bring players onto the ball, even Ollie Cooper coming on to add a bit of forward momentum while also able to do the defensive part of the game, I hope our youngsters have a different role model to aspire to in O'Brien but this is just after one game hope he can keep the quality of his game up. |
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Reply | Next 6 games
at 08:17 10 Feb 2025
Would like to think there are at least a couple of wins in the next 5 games.
Looking at the goal difference of the teams we have to play
there are three teams who have issues in defence. The other two Blackburn and Middlesbrough we are playing at home.
We rode our luck but didn't roll over and give goals away yesterday and once we got ahead in the game we managed to see the game out. Hope we can improve our goal difference drastically helping our points tally on.
Would love to see 3 more wins bringing us up to 12 points out of the six games. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Sheffield Wednesday : Match day thread
at 23:39 9 Feb 2025
Expectations will have risen now just hope we can get ourselves on the front foot again(sooner rather than later) without losing our shape by overcommitting and leaving big gaps and keep another clean sheet while getting on the scoresheet.Please. |
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