| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr 22:18 - Dec 17 with 4330 views | Boundy |
Our new name |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:03 - Dec 18 with 1165 views | max936 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:56 - Dec 18 by Boundy |
Not sure what the majority language of our new incomers is but I'd hazard a good guess it ain't english but even more so it ain't Welsh , how confusing .
Renaming mountains hills and place names just to appease a minority isn't a good look imo. |
The Drakeford Legacy lives on, the cost of upgrading the signs is gonna cost millions just like those 20mph signs, just for his vanity projects using up millions that are needed everywhere in Wales apart from Cardiff who have had more than their share shamefully.
And that's coming from me who considers myself Welsh before British and I'm forever reminding people or the fact.
Those sign's aren't gonna make me anymore Welsher than I already know I am.
Complete waste of money that's needed elsewhere. |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:15 - Dec 18 with 1131 views | raynor94 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:03 - Dec 18 by max936 |
The Drakeford Legacy lives on, the cost of upgrading the signs is gonna cost millions just like those 20mph signs, just for his vanity projects using up millions that are needed everywhere in Wales apart from Cardiff who have had more than their share shamefully.
And that's coming from me who considers myself Welsh before British and I'm forever reminding people or the fact.
Those sign's aren't gonna make me anymore Welsher than I already know I am.
Complete waste of money that's needed elsewhere. |
And he's now the finance secretary 🙄 he's 70 years of age! Time to put his feet up |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:41 - Dec 18 with 1083 views | Flashberryjack |
The amount of money wasted by the Welsh government since devolution, borders on criminality in office, and we still vote them in. |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 14:03 - Dec 18 with 1054 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:54 - Dec 18 by Luther27 |
It’s the frustration at having a language that most Welsh people don’t speak. It inhibits safety which Drakeford has rammed down our throats via 20mph….it costs to implement…but basically it’s discriminatory against non Welsh speaking Welsh people. |
Does going on holiday to Spain and having signs in Spanish inhibit safety? Apart from a few signs and the introductions to telephone calls this doesn’t really impact on day to day lives, but the Welsh Language Act does provide a safety mechanism for those who wish to or can only use Welsh.
I was speaking to someone on Monday who has an elderly family member who is suffering dementia to the extent that they can no longer communicate in English - they’ve defaulted to Welsh which was their language when they were a child. The WLA now ensures that in her dealing with the NHS and doctors and other public bodies she has the right to be dealt with in Welsh - I don’t see anything wrong with that. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 14:56 - Dec 18 with 1016 views | Luther27 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 12:54 - Dec 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Another one claiming discrimination. I pay for the English monarchy. A union was formed around 1462 and UK formed in1702. We live in peace and harmony because those who a re frustrated do not "kick off".
Pease respect means success and prosperity.. Wales is s actually a successful place. [Post edited 18 Dec 12:54]
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I use the word discrimination to describe exactly what it is. Born in Wales…educated in Wales where in Welsh was not taught. My parents are English only speakers. So how do you think I feel personally being alienated by my own Govt? | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:13 - Dec 18 with 999 views | Luther27 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 14:03 - Dec 18 by majorraglan |
Does going on holiday to Spain and having signs in Spanish inhibit safety? Apart from a few signs and the introductions to telephone calls this doesn’t really impact on day to day lives, but the Welsh Language Act does provide a safety mechanism for those who wish to or can only use Welsh.
I was speaking to someone on Monday who has an elderly family member who is suffering dementia to the extent that they can no longer communicate in English - they’ve defaulted to Welsh which was their language when they were a child. The WLA now ensures that in her dealing with the NHS and doctors and other public bodies she has the right to be dealt with in Welsh - I don’t see anything wrong with that. |
Neither do I but I do have issues with for instance M4 signs in Welsh only. And I stand by the money going to be wasted in changing minor things like County signs, official headed paperwork etc. And an extra cost will be incurred. Don’t forget the 20 mph signage cost an initial £35 million. Aren’t there more important things to spend tax payers money on? | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:35 - Dec 18 with 960 views | Flashberryjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 14:03 - Dec 18 by majorraglan |
Does going on holiday to Spain and having signs in Spanish inhibit safety? Apart from a few signs and the introductions to telephone calls this doesn’t really impact on day to day lives, but the Welsh Language Act does provide a safety mechanism for those who wish to or can only use Welsh.
I was speaking to someone on Monday who has an elderly family member who is suffering dementia to the extent that they can no longer communicate in English - they’ve defaulted to Welsh which was their language when they were a child. The WLA now ensures that in her dealing with the NHS and doctors and other public bodies she has the right to be dealt with in Welsh - I don’t see anything wrong with that. |
I wonder how many doctors are welsh speakers, and what if there are none available ?
bannau brycheiniog to you. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:56 - Dec 18 with 932 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:47 - Dec 17 by Luther27 |
I genuinely get angry when things like this happen and the vast majority of non Welsh speakers get walked over. Motorway signs, information signs etc in Welsh only. The cost of sending bilingual paperwork, the cost of rebranding for the new title names in Welsh just compounds the views I have on the Senedd. |
I'm with you 100%. There are more important things to spend the money on like saving peoples lives, stopping criminals.... | | | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:57 - Dec 18 with 929 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:13 - Dec 18 by Luther27 |
Neither do I but I do have issues with for instance M4 signs in Welsh only. And I stand by the money going to be wasted in changing minor things like County signs, official headed paperwork etc. And an extra cost will be incurred. Don’t forget the 20 mph signage cost an initial £35 million. Aren’t there more important things to spend tax payers money on? |
Why do they need to change the County, it’s my understanding there’s no change to the council boundaries etc and this only impacts on the Senedd constituencies, we didn’t have council boundary changes after the last parliamentary constituency shake up.
Official headed paper will probably have to change, but that would happen if an AM was voted out of office anyway. The cost of these changes is minimal in comparison to the £35m spent on road signs and it’s my view the 20mph limit had been handled poorly.
I also think the additional AM’s is a waste of cash as is the fact we have 22 local authorities in Wales. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:59 - Dec 18 with 913 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:56 - Dec 18 by SullutaCreturned |
I'm with you 100%. There are more important things to spend the money on like saving peoples lives, stopping criminals.... |
As a matter of interest. If a Welsh speaker was in court in Wales in front of a jury, could they insist on the case being conducted in Welsh. |  | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 16:20 - Dec 18 with 870 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:59 - Dec 18 by Whiterockin |
As a matter of interest. If a Welsh speaker was in court in Wales in front of a jury, could they insist on the case being conducted in Welsh. |
It’s all explained in the below, but Welsh and English are on an equal footing so for a Crown Court case I think they can get parts of it interpreted including the papers but not the whole case.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/651d4cd16a6955001278b2c5/HMCTS_We | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 16:59 - Dec 18 with 838 views | pencoedjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:41 - Dec 18 by Flashberryjack |
The amount of money wasted by the Welsh government since devolution, borders on criminality in office, and we still vote them in. |
I'd like to think this will change in the next elections. |  | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:21 - Dec 18 with 788 views | Flashberryjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 16:59 - Dec 18 by pencoedjack |
I'd like to think this will change in the next elections. |
You would like to think, but this is Wales and we have history of voting for donkey's.
With the recent anouncment that Wales has the highest unemployment rate in the UK, you would have also thought that, changing names into welsh would be pretty low on the welsh governments list of priorities, apparently not. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:27 - Dec 18 with 779 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:59 - Dec 18 by Whiterockin |
As a matter of interest. If a Welsh speaker was in court in Wales in front of a jury, could they insist on the case being conducted in Welsh. |
English is understood by all.
It is our common language
Common sense should dictate all public authority discourse | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:42 - Dec 18 with 771 views | max936 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:15 - Dec 18 by raynor94 |
And he's now the finance secretary 🙄 he's 70 years of age! Time to put his feet up |
Finance secretary, oh my ....... days  | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:46 - Dec 18 with 751 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:27 - Dec 18 by onehunglow |
English is understood by all.
It is our common language
Common sense should dictate all public authority discourse |
But it isn’t, there are some Welsh speakers who are very uncomfortable using English as Welsh is their first language. I’m proficient in both, but I know quite a few people farmer types living in the west who aren’t.
It’s because of views like yours that the Welsh Language Act was introduced. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:10 - Dec 18 with 724 views | max936 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:46 - Dec 18 by majorraglan |
But it isn’t, there are some Welsh speakers who are very uncomfortable using English as Welsh is their first language. I’m proficient in both, but I know quite a few people farmer types living in the west who aren’t.
It’s because of views like yours that the Welsh Language Act was introduced. |
I have no issues with the Welsh language whatsoever, I support the language and long may it continue, but to change signage to all Welsh is going to alienate visitors who add millions to the economy, backward thinking by an out of touch archaic government.
All proposed and passed by the small time thinker that is Drakeford another of his vanity projects that is costing the Welsh tax payer millions and he's still clinging on because he's got nothing else in his life. [Post edited 18 Dec 19:15]
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:20 - Dec 18 with 715 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 01:27 - Dec 18 by sons_of_omri |
This is not a surprise in the least. Just two years ago I was waiting ion the platform in Swansea rail station and was horrified to hear a minute long announcement in welsh followed by English. Even the car park ticket machine was defaulted to Welsh - all great for foreign visitors who probably spend years learning English only to find it doesn’t count here.
I’m genuinely dismayed at the small mindedness of the Cwmdaethas Yr Iaith mafia who are turning us into a backwater.
This is exactly what kicked off the Ukrainian conflict - overt and unfettered nationalism from a minority - for English read Russian and for Ukrainian read Welsh. |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:26 - Dec 18 with 691 views | Gwyn737 |
A mate of mine from over the bridge went to Pembroke on holiday in the summer.
When he came back he asked me what animal an Araf was.
He’d seen the Slow Araf signs on the road and was worried he’d hit one 🤣 [Post edited 18 Dec 18:26]
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:41 - Dec 18 with 647 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:26 - Dec 18 by Gwyn737 |
A mate of mine from over the bridge went to Pembroke on holiday in the summer.
When he came back he asked me what animal an Araf was.
He’d seen the Slow Araf signs on the road and was worried he’d hit one 🤣 [Post edited 18 Dec 18:26]
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Reminds my of a mate who was driving up through mid Wales and thought he was going around in circles because he kept seeing the sign gorsaf. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:53 - Dec 18 with 507 views | Kilkennyjack |
I think its a great idea.
Its upset all the right people.
Come on Cymru 🏴❤️ |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 06:09 - Dec 19 with 483 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:53 - Dec 18 by Kilkennyjack |
I think its a great idea.
Its upset all the right people.
Come on Cymru 🏴❤️ |
Come on Cymru
Sums up the whole laughable situation. Should either be in Welsh or English, not a half cocked phrase. [Post edited 19 Dec 9:04]
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:25 - Dec 19 with 425 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:46 - Dec 18 by majorraglan |
But it isn’t, there are some Welsh speakers who are very uncomfortable using English as Welsh is their first language. I’m proficient in both, but I know quite a few people farmer types living in the west who aren’t.
It’s because of views like yours that the Welsh Language Act was introduced. |
I don’t accept that for a minute
I am from west Wales Cardy stock.
My grandad ,welsh speaker ,certainly knew how to conduct business affairs in English .
How exactly has the welsh language act improved Wales as a country and especially for the majority who do not and do not want to speak it
It’s because of views like yours that sees division as we do over a bluddy language
Wales has some of the poorest areas in the UK and the language used in those areas is irrelevant | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:44 - Dec 19 with 368 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:25 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
I don’t accept that for a minute
I am from west Wales Cardy stock.
My grandad ,welsh speaker ,certainly knew how to conduct business affairs in English .
How exactly has the welsh language act improved Wales as a country and especially for the majority who do not and do not want to speak it
It’s because of views like yours that sees division as we do over a bluddy language
Wales has some of the poorest areas in the UK and the language used in those areas is irrelevant |
So if the language is irrelevant what’s the problem with people speaking Welsh?
My wife is from a large family from West Wales, every one of them speak Welsh as their first language, are they to stop doing so because of the views of the likes of you?
Isn’t it amazing that the Welsh language is still alive and kicking despite English teachers beating Welsh speaking children years ago in an attempt to stop them speaking it? | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:04 - Dec 19 with 259 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 06:09 - Dec 19 by Whiterockin |
Come on Cymru
Sums up the whole laughable situation. Should either be in Welsh or English, not a half cocked phrase. [Post edited 19 Dec 9:04]
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Do you make the rules on languages ?
Sorry i wasn’t aware .. | |
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