| How the mighty have fallen 06:02 - Jul 24 with 6211 views | stowmarketrange |
The fixtures are out for the National league north and my local non league team,Needham Market are at home on August 20th to Scunthorpe Utd.
It was only 13 years ago that they thumped us 4-1 in our championship winning season.
Other former league sides to visit Needham this season include Darlington,Chester,Hereford and Southport. |  | | |  |
| How the mighty have fallen on 07:40 - Jul 24 with 5958 views | stevec |
Feels like we’re permanently trapped in some sort of National League North! |  | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:18 - Jul 24 with 5832 views | Northernr |
Scunny were basically run into the ground by a bloke called Peter Swann who took them over promising Championship consolidation, spent loads on players (Ivan Toney was there for a while), rattled through managers, and basically torched the place. Then got all bitter and tried to hold onto the ground and evict them. They're now locally owned again and rebuilding. There's a really great hour podcast on the whole disaster on BBC Sounds which I'd recommend. |  | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:39 - Jul 24 with 5749 views | stowmarketrange |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:18 - Jul 24 by Northernr |
Scunny were basically run into the ground by a bloke called Peter Swann who took them over promising Championship consolidation, spent loads on players (Ivan Toney was there for a while), rattled through managers, and basically torched the place. Then got all bitter and tried to hold onto the ground and evict them. They're now locally owned again and rebuilding. There's a really great hour podcast on the whole disaster on BBC Sounds which I'd recommend. |
All of Needham’s programmes are now online if you want to read all about it.I remember speaking to one of their older fans after the 4-1 game and he couldn’t believe what he’d seen that day,and was so ecstatic at the result.
It’s terrible that those same fans have had their club ripped apart by greedy owners. | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:44 - Jul 24 with 5721 views | Northernr |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:39 - Jul 24 by stowmarketrange |
All of Needham’s programmes are now online if you want to read all about it.I remember speaking to one of their older fans after the 4-1 game and he couldn’t believe what he’d seen that day,and was so ecstatic at the result.
It’s terrible that those same fans have had their club ripped apart by greedy owners. |
TBF it was unprecedented that they were in the Champ ever, absolutely incredible to me having grown up in the town. They're a Third Division side. When they got promoted into the Second in 97 it was seen as some sort of miracle and they were relegated straight back immediately.
Shouldn't be Conference North though. | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:53 - Jul 24 with 5680 views | stowmarketrange |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:44 - Jul 24 by Northernr |
TBF it was unprecedented that they were in the Champ ever, absolutely incredible to me having grown up in the town. They're a Third Division side. When they got promoted into the Second in 97 it was seen as some sort of miracle and they were relegated straight back immediately.
Shouldn't be Conference North though. |
When you look at the championship,2nd division of the late 90’s and early 00’s and see the teams that were in it,you realise how much has changed.Bury,Port facking Vale,Stockport and others that have almost disappeared into non league.Hereford used to regularly feature in the league too. | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 09:11 - Jul 24 with 5613 views | Northernr |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:53 - Jul 24 by stowmarketrange |
When you look at the championship,2nd division of the late 90’s and early 00’s and see the teams that were in it,you realise how much has changed.Bury,Port facking Vale,Stockport and others that have almost disappeared into non league.Hereford used to regularly feature in the league too. |
A whole bunch of clubs basically got killed by the ITV Digital deal - Grimsby, Stockport, Tranmere etc. | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 09:42 - Jul 24 with 5470 views | derbyhoop |
I try to keep a tally of all the EFL grounds I've been to, wanting to do all 92, but so many are now in the National League. Or lower. |  |
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| How the mighty have fallen on 10:00 - Jul 24 with 5394 views | terryb |
This post is more about Scunthorpe than Needham, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until Scunny return to the EFL. Barrow took decades ro return, but most clubs eventually make it back to the promised land!
Of the 92 Premier & EFL clubs this season, only 15 were not in the EFL in the 1960/61 season. I thought it was 16, but Peterborough replaced Gateshead that summer. The "newcomers" being Bromley, Burton, Cambridge, Cheltenham, Crawley, Fleetwood, Harrogate, MK, Morecambe, Oxford, Salford, Stevenage, Wigan, Wimbledon, Wycombe.
The replaced clubs are Aldershot, Bradford Park Avenue, Bury, Chester, Darlington, Halifax, Hartlepools, Oldham, Rochdale, Scunthorpe, Southend, Southport, Torquay, Workington, York.
Some of the clubs that have played in the EFL & non-league are "phoenix" clubs, Accrington, Aldershot, Boston, Bury , Darlington, Gateshead, Hereford, Newport, Wimbledon among them, but I'm sure there are others.
I suppose my point is that although clubs do progress/regress, over the course of time most return to their allotted place in the system.
Anyhow, good luck to Needham for the season. |  | | |
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| How the mighty have fallen on 12:56 - Jul 24 with 5157 views | kingsburyR |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:44 - Jul 24 by Northernr |
TBF it was unprecedented that they were in the Champ ever, absolutely incredible to me having grown up in the town. They're a Third Division side. When they got promoted into the Second in 97 it was seen as some sort of miracle and they were relegated straight back immediately.
Shouldn't be Conference North though. |
How are you an R's fan again???
There must be 30 teams between where you grew up and Shepherds Bush.
Not that I'm complaining mind! |  |
| Dont know why we bother. .... but we do! |
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| How the mighty have fallen on 12:57 - Jul 24 with 5152 views | Northernr |
| How the mighty have fallen on 12:56 - Jul 24 by kingsburyR |
How are you an R's fan again???
There must be 30 teams between where you grew up and Shepherds Bush.
Not that I'm complaining mind! |
Dad was mad QPR, and I was in Hampton Hill for the junior school bit of my childhood when I got into football properly.
Bit a nomadic existence but essentially it's been Grimsby > Hampton > Scunny > Sheffield for equal lengths of time, then a harrowing year on Corby, and London again ever since. | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 13:14 - Jul 24 with 5088 views | kingsburyR |
| How the mighty have fallen on 12:57 - Jul 24 by Northernr |
Dad was mad QPR, and I was in Hampton Hill for the junior school bit of my childhood when I got into football properly.
Bit a nomadic existence but essentially it's been Grimsby > Hampton > Scunny > Sheffield for equal lengths of time, then a harrowing year on Corby, and London again ever since. |
Scunnys loss is our gain mate!
Not sure over the years who would have given you more material though! | |
| Dont know why we bother. .... but we do! |
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| How the mighty have fallen on 13:21 - Jul 24 with 5059 views | hantssi |
| How the mighty have fallen on 12:57 - Jul 24 by Northernr |
Dad was mad QPR, and I was in Hampton Hill for the junior school bit of my childhood when I got into football properly.
Bit a nomadic existence but essentially it's been Grimsby > Hampton > Scunny > Sheffield for equal lengths of time, then a harrowing year on Corby, and London again ever since. |
A whole year in Corby eh?!
That must have made a man of you!
Scottish accents everywhere whilst they’ve never even been north of the border! | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 14:23 - Jul 24 with 4870 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| How the mighty have fallen on 13:21 - Jul 24 by hantssi |
A whole year in Corby eh?!
That must have made a man of you!
Scottish accents everywhere whilst they’ve never even been north of the border! |
Is it true there is something like one taxi for every resident in Corby or something. |  | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 14:30 - Jul 24 with 4831 views | Sonofpugwash |
I remember the rise and fall of Rushden and Diamonds. |  |
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| How the mighty have fallen on 14:33 - Jul 24 with 4796 views | slmrstid |
| How the mighty have fallen on 10:00 - Jul 24 by terryb |
This post is more about Scunthorpe than Needham, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until Scunny return to the EFL. Barrow took decades ro return, but most clubs eventually make it back to the promised land!
Of the 92 Premier & EFL clubs this season, only 15 were not in the EFL in the 1960/61 season. I thought it was 16, but Peterborough replaced Gateshead that summer. The "newcomers" being Bromley, Burton, Cambridge, Cheltenham, Crawley, Fleetwood, Harrogate, MK, Morecambe, Oxford, Salford, Stevenage, Wigan, Wimbledon, Wycombe.
The replaced clubs are Aldershot, Bradford Park Avenue, Bury, Chester, Darlington, Halifax, Hartlepools, Oldham, Rochdale, Scunthorpe, Southend, Southport, Torquay, Workington, York.
Some of the clubs that have played in the EFL & non-league are "phoenix" clubs, Accrington, Aldershot, Boston, Bury , Darlington, Gateshead, Hereford, Newport, Wimbledon among them, but I'm sure there are others.
I suppose my point is that although clubs do progress/regress, over the course of time most return to their allotted place in the system.
Anyhow, good luck to Needham for the season. |
Bradford Park Avenue fascinate me for some reason. I think its a mix of the name, the fact their original stadium looks proper evocative in pictures, joined onto the cricket ground like Headingley, and them being historically the bigger club in Bradford (I think) before Bradford City outgrew them whilst they shrank away. |  | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 14:50 - Jul 24 with 4728 views | DavieQPR |
Oldham have had the mightiest fall. From Premier League to National League. |  | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 15:29 - Jul 24 with 4329 views | Pindarus |
| How the mighty have fallen on 14:30 - Jul 24 by Sonofpugwash |
I remember the rise and fall of Rushden and Diamonds. |
Did we not sign the one season goal machine Stuart Wardley from Rushden and Diamonds? | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 15:33 - Jul 24 with 4275 views | Pindarus |
| How the mighty have fallen on 14:30 - Jul 24 by Sonofpugwash |
I remember the rise and fall of Rushden and Diamonds. |
Did we not sign the one season goal machine Stuart Wardley from Rushden and Diamonds? | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 15:42 - Jul 24 with 4120 views | qpr_1968 |
| How the mighty have fallen on 08:39 - Jul 24 by stowmarketrange |
All of Needham’s programmes are now online if you want to read all about it.I remember speaking to one of their older fans after the 4-1 game and he couldn’t believe what he’d seen that day,and was so ecstatic at the result.
It’s terrible that those same fans have had their club ripped apart by greedy owners. |
apart from the result, one of my best away games that season.
went overnight, stayed in the blarney stone until 4.30 on the morning of the game.
went back to the b&b for an hours kip....breakfast at 7.30...had a wander around the town, had another bite to eat in a pub called the buccaneer, think it was a witherspoons...had a few pints in there, then a brisk walk down to the ground and met the boys from the lsa in that boozer outside the stadium.
oh to be young again..... | |
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| How the mighty have fallen on 16:11 - Jul 24 with 3463 views | stowmarketrange |
| How the mighty have fallen on 15:33 - Jul 24 by Pindarus |
Did we not sign the one season goal machine Stuart Wardley from Rushden and Diamonds? |
Saffron Walden was where we got Stuart from. | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 16:24 - Jul 24 with 3329 views | hantssi |
| How the mighty have fallen on 14:30 - Jul 24 by Sonofpugwash |
I remember the rise and fall of Rushden and Diamonds. |
Venue of Ainsworth's wonder goal(s)! | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 18:05 - Jul 24 with 2555 views | themodfather |
hopefully it will soon be man city v scuuny in tational league north!! | | | |
| How the mighty have fallen on 18:27 - Jul 24 with 2524 views | strikerace |
All these teams need are some owners from Hollywood | | | |
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