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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich 13:02 - Feb 14 with 118247 viewsloftboy

Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road?

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:39 - Mar 8 with 4499 viewsR_from_afar

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:52 - Mar 8 by 222gers

UK to phase out Russian oil by the end of the year and we only buy a small amount of their gas. I feel strangely cleansed. Of course we'll still be buying oil from Saudi Arabia.
Silly question - could we reopen our coalfields ? I'm told the new tech means coal can be burned in a far less polluting way. Or is that wishful thinking ?


It is possible to burn coal in power stations and eliminate the CO2 emissions but it is very costly, has only been attempted anywhere on a small scale up until now plus the UK pretty much gave up on the idea - carbon capture and storage - some years ago.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:12 - Mar 8 with 4353 viewsGloryHunter

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:52 - Mar 8 by 222gers

UK to phase out Russian oil by the end of the year and we only buy a small amount of their gas. I feel strangely cleansed. Of course we'll still be buying oil from Saudi Arabia.
Silly question - could we reopen our coalfields ? I'm told the new tech means coal can be burned in a far less polluting way. Or is that wishful thinking ?


The UK still has coal mines. Opencast, rather than shafts and tunnels. Millions of tonnes of coal mined and burned to generate electricity. And more UK coal mines are planned.
https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/coal-mining-uk/

We also import coal, chiefly from Poland and Russia. In terms of "carbon footprint", or however you choose to name it, it would seem to be less damaging to dig it up at home rather than use diesel-powered ships to import it.

The same principle applies to gas, of course. Why do we import gas from other countries when we are sitting on trillions of litres of the stuff underneath our own land and seabed?
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:06 - Mar 8 with 4261 viewsGloryHunter

McDonald's is closing its "restaurants" in Russia now.

If that doesn't incite a revolution, then nothing will.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:26 - Mar 8 with 4208 viewsSharpy36

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:39 - Mar 8 by Toast_R

Depending on what you beleive, It seems the Russian's have sent in their soldiers ill equipped, under funded and unprepared. They've been pictured using wooden logs to armour their vehicles from attacks. They don't want to be there and allegedly they were told they would just stroll through Ukraine to the sounds of cheers and welcomes.

The shelling bombardment by Russia is likely done in desperate realisation that it's gone very bad for them.
They acknowledge they've lost around 500 soldiers but its reported that figure is really into the thousands. How does Putin's political career survive what is now becoming a military disaster?
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`They've been pictured using wooden logs to armour their vehicles from attacks`

Not for using when getting stuck in muddy fields then ?

'You didn't know that was wrong, but now you do. If you do it again, I'll know you are doing it on purpose.'

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 00:14 - Mar 9 with 4073 viewsDannyPaddox

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:06 - Mar 8 by GloryHunter

McDonald's is closing its "restaurants" in Russia now.

If that doesn't incite a revolution, then nothing will.


At last a no fries zone
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:35 - Mar 9 with 3932 viewsdistortR

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:39 - Mar 8 by Toast_R

Depending on what you beleive, It seems the Russian's have sent in their soldiers ill equipped, under funded and unprepared. They've been pictured using wooden logs to armour their vehicles from attacks. They don't want to be there and allegedly they were told they would just stroll through Ukraine to the sounds of cheers and welcomes.

The shelling bombardment by Russia is likely done in desperate realisation that it's gone very bad for them.
They acknowledge they've lost around 500 soldiers but its reported that figure is really into the thousands. How does Putin's political career survive what is now becoming a military disaster?
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The shelling bombardment is done because that's what they do when attacking urban areas - I believe that's a lesson learned in Chechnya.

I see the US ambassador to the UN's condemnation of the use of cluster bombs has been deleted from the transcript by the US mission because they won't endorse a ban on a horribly indiscriminate weapon that they have used.

Much earlier in this thread I wrote Carl Sandburg's poem 'the people-the mob'.

Why, the people's of this world, do we let the mega maniacal few do this to us? We don't want this shit, and it's not going to help us. Too many news institutions are too close to governments. Too few journalists investigate, too many just write what their 'source' tells them to.

My heart goes out to all the victim's of this war, and of all the war's going on right now, but just aren't deemed newsworthy right now.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:47 - Mar 9 with 3734 viewsThe_Beast1976

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:35 - Mar 9 by distortR

The shelling bombardment is done because that's what they do when attacking urban areas - I believe that's a lesson learned in Chechnya.

I see the US ambassador to the UN's condemnation of the use of cluster bombs has been deleted from the transcript by the US mission because they won't endorse a ban on a horribly indiscriminate weapon that they have used.

Much earlier in this thread I wrote Carl Sandburg's poem 'the people-the mob'.

Why, the people's of this world, do we let the mega maniacal few do this to us? We don't want this shit, and it's not going to help us. Too many news institutions are too close to governments. Too few journalists investigate, too many just write what their 'source' tells them to.

My heart goes out to all the victim's of this war, and of all the war's going on right now, but just aren't deemed newsworthy right now.


"Why, the people's of this world, do we let the mega maniacal few do this to us? We don't want this shit, and it's not going to help us. Too many news institutions are too close to governments. Too few journalists investigate, too many just write what their 'source' tells them to."

Bang on. Unfortunately, the majority prefer to just believe the lies they are told and then "take sides" based on those lies, thereby perpetuating a situation which, in truth, is of no benefit to them and only benefits the few at the very top who create and push the lies as being truth so to further their own aims of control of the masses, power over the masses, and extreme wealth. War is of no benefit to anyone on this planet, save for a few hundred people right at the very top.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 15:52 - Mar 9 with 3567 viewsEsox_Lucius

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:12 - Mar 8 by GloryHunter

The UK still has coal mines. Opencast, rather than shafts and tunnels. Millions of tonnes of coal mined and burned to generate electricity. And more UK coal mines are planned.
https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/coal-mining-uk/

We also import coal, chiefly from Poland and Russia. In terms of "carbon footprint", or however you choose to name it, it would seem to be less damaging to dig it up at home rather than use diesel-powered ships to import it.

The same principle applies to gas, of course. Why do we import gas from other countries when we are sitting on trillions of litres of the stuff underneath our own land and seabed?
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The owners get a better price on the international market. NS gas would be a great business to put into public ownership IMO. It wouldn't do any harm to utilise our position as an island to generate power using wind, wave and solar energy. the infrastructure for both these ideas already exists, it just needs modification to incorporate renewable sources.

The grass is always greener.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:11 - Mar 10 with 3271 viewsHAYESBOY

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/60688168

About fcking time.

Smells like a trout farm in here

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:29 - Mar 10 with 3196 viewsbosh67

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:11 - Mar 10 by HAYESBOY

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/60688168

About fcking time.


Interesting isn't it. Looking at he special license at the level they are at that is going to be hard. Going to and from European ties on a budget of £20,000 per time, including the team, staff, etc is not going to be easy. Perhaps they should get a Bedford van?

Never knowingly right.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:33 - Mar 10 with 3173 viewsCamberleyR

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:29 - Mar 10 by bosh67

Interesting isn't it. Looking at he special license at the level they are at that is going to be hard. Going to and from European ties on a budget of £20,000 per time, including the team, staff, etc is not going to be easy. Perhaps they should get a Bedford van?



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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:52 - Mar 10 with 3102 viewsHAYESBOY

Lets hope Malaysia do not invade a country.

How can a sale go through now of Chelscum? Abramovich cannot benefit from a sale?

28k Season ticket holders. No day sales.
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Smells like a trout farm in here

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:03 - Mar 10 with 3078 viewswombat

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:29 - Mar 10 by bosh67

Interesting isn't it. Looking at he special license at the level they are at that is going to be hard. Going to and from European ties on a budget of £20,000 per time, including the team, staff, etc is not going to be easy. Perhaps they should get a Bedford van?


Mega Bus ?

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:06 - Mar 10 with 3065 viewsHAYESBOY

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:03 - Mar 10 by wombat

Mega Bus ?




Not sure they can afford it now though.

Smells like a trout farm in here

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:32 - Mar 10 with 2994 viewseastside_r

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:11 - Mar 10 by HAYESBOY

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/60688168

About fcking time.


All their achievements and trophies in the Abramovich era should be expunged from the records like the Tour de France did with Lance Armstrong.

(I am only half-joking.)
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:14 - Mar 10 with 2872 viewspaulparker

They will be fine
They will limp over the line in 4th place and another buyer will come in

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:18 - Mar 10 with 2851 viewsCamberleyR

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:14 - Mar 10 by paulparker

They will be fine
They will limp over the line in 4th place and another buyer will come in


That's assuming in the short term they can pay their wage bill which is allegedly £28m a month...

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:19 - Mar 10 with 2838 viewsBrianMcCarthy


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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:26 - Mar 10 with 2787 viewsdaveB

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:14 - Mar 10 by paulparker

They will be fine
They will limp over the line in 4th place and another buyer will come in


sadly you are probably right
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:46 - Mar 10 with 2723 viewsOrthodox_Hoop

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:19 - Feb 25 by Rangersw12

A poignant video and audio clip doing the rounds of 13 Ukrainians refusing to surrender to a Russian warship on "Snake Island"

Last words were from the Ukrainians "go fck yourself"

They were then all killed.


Very glad indeed to read that the heroes of Zmiinyi island are in fact alive and well according to the Ukrainian Navy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/03/technology/ukraine-war-misinfo.html

"That was the case with another report from Ukraine involving a remarkable confrontation on Snake Island, an outpost in the Black Sea. According to an audio recording released by Pravda, a Ukrainian newspaper, and later verified by Ukraine officials, 13 border guards were offered a frightening ultimatum by an advancing Russian military unit: Surrender or face an attack. The Ukrainians responded instead with an expletive, before apparently being killed.

Audio of the exchange went viral on social media, and the clip posted on Feb. 24 by Pravda received more than 3.5 million views on YouTube. President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine personally announced the deaths in a video, saying each guard would be awarded the title Hero of Ukraine.

But just days later, Ukrainian officials confirmed in a Facebook post that the men were still alive, taken prisoner by Russian forces."

Also, have read reports alleging that the Russian warship involved in that attack has been sunk, but no confirmation yet.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:46 - Mar 10 with 2448 viewsPaddyhoops

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:19 - Mar 10 by BrianMcCarthy



The gift that keeps on giving!!
A humanatarian gesture and she finds the negative in it!
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 17:18 - Mar 10 with 2371 viewsMick_S

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 00:14 - Mar 9 by DannyPaddox

At last a no fries zone


Tremendous.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:35 - Mar 10 with 3841 viewsNorthernr

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:20 - Mar 10 with 3675 viewssprocket

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:19 - Mar 10 by BrianMcCarthy



Despicable human. The brits don't deserve this government. History will reflect very badly on Johnson, Patel et al
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:24 - Mar 10 with 3664 viewsHarbour

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:35 - Mar 10 by Northernr



Thanks for putting that up Norf..my god the Polish are fantastic wonderful generous people.
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