| Deadline day thread 16:25 - Jan 25 with 80526 views | Northernr |
May as well try and keep all this together for the next week.
Demebele withdrawn from Peterborough squad ahead of possible Bournemouth move.
V good against us.
Further reduces the possibility of them pulling their fingers out and relegating bloody Reading.
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| Deadline day thread on 12:33 - Jan 31 with 3158 views | robith |
| Deadline day thread on 12:18 - Jan 31 by danehoop |
It's a really tricky window for us I think.
We have probably vastly over exceeded expectations at this point and seem to be on a role results wise, even when not playing well. We also now have players returning from tournaments and injury which we can see from the "Field effect" feel effectively like new signings.
At the same time, with other around us seemingly splashing the cash with gay abandon, we may have to improve further to keep this up. Temptation will be to add a few more players to try and give some more options/depth, but cant see us doing that for any price or for those that are not a significant improvement on what is a very solid squad. Perhaps one more in at best and maybe a few more of the U23/fringe out on loan would be most likely I'd guess. |
On the flip side, a lot of pressure for those signings to perform immediately for Bournemouth, when a lot of them haven't had much football lately |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 12:34 - Jan 31 with 3144 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Deadline day thread on 11:41 - Jan 31 by GeorgeKulscar |
I'm perfectly happy with us not signing anyone else. With Sanderson signing, McCallum and Odubajo coming back, Chair returning, and Dykes also staying fit (and now scoring) we have decent cover all over the pitch, and particularly strong cover in midfield.
In an ideal world we would have slightly better striker options, that could be the different between play offs and automatic, but its not like we can go out and sign anyone better than we have without spending a lot of money.
If we succeed now and others like Bournemouth and Forest don't after splashing extra money it will be even more satisfying. |
I hope we sign an attacking (ideally quick) player; this is the best chance we have of going up and the right signing could be the difference between going up automatically or not. |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 12:37 - Jan 31 with 3092 views | Northernr |
| Deadline day thread on 12:18 - Jan 31 by danehoop |
It's a really tricky window for us I think.
We have probably vastly over exceeded expectations at this point and seem to be on a role results wise, even when not playing well. We also now have players returning from tournaments and injury which we can see from the "Field effect" feel effectively like new signings.
At the same time, with other around us seemingly splashing the cash with gay abandon, we may have to improve further to keep this up. Temptation will be to add a few more players to try and give some more options/depth, but cant see us doing that for any price or for those that are not a significant improvement on what is a very solid squad. Perhaps one more in at best and maybe a few more of the U23/fringe out on loan would be most likely I'd guess. |
It's a tricky window to try and explain to social media, but really it's very simple. We have a budget, there are rules in place in this league regarding overspend, we spent that budget in the summer.
It seems it's really easy to forget the summer. When last season ended the general consensus was if we could get the four loans back we'd have a hell of a chance. We did that, all on permanent deals, and that won't have been cheap - there was a fee for Field I think, Austin was obviously on big money, Johansen a three year deal is expensive. We also signed Dunne who is terrific and Dozzell. We loaned McCallum and Gray and contrary to popular opinion loans are far from free, and Gray is on huge money at Watford.
Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but I think most of us were ecstatic with that, no? Thought it was way more than we expected to do, gave us a great chance, and so far that has come to pass. Didn't sell anybody either.
I think it's pretty clear that the budget is done. It was spent in the summer, on that lot. Everybody was in favour of us doing that, it's gone really well, we're exactly where we hoped we would be in the league. We've added Sanderson, but we've had to loan out De Wijs to do it, which I think shows you how close to our maximum we are.
And, yet, now, apparently, we still need three or four more, we're short here there and everywhere, Josh Maga gets us promoted, Jamie Paterson gets us promoted. I've seen somebody professing to run a "QPR News" account Tweeting Bhatia and Fernandes telling them to "get their fingers out". "Roderick" and "Edward" have reared their heads again (still waiting for that Bright contract extension lads).
We might get one or two, a loan perhaps, Swansea cave on Paterson. But, generally, the choice was made in the summer, the budget was spent. Whatever people think of how some of those signings have done, we can't take them back with a receipt. Nor do the rules around P&S, or the club's budget, allow you to just go out and spend some more now because it might get you promoted.
I'm sure there are players moving around that we'd like to have been in for. I don't think we have that option. It's not a choice, it's just maths. | | | |
| Deadline day thread on 12:43 - Jan 31 with 2990 views | daveB |
The Bournemouth spending is going to panic people but I hope the club hold firm and do nothing stupid. They should now move clear of us and Blackburn in the race for second but they are putting the future of their club on the line to chase promotion. We shouldn't be doing that again. We have Chair coming back, McCallum back next month and can rotate the 3 forwards to keep everyone fresh.
if a deal that works for us comes up then do it if not stand firm and wait till the summer. |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 12:49 - Jan 31 with 2905 views | HAYESBOY |
Preston sign Diaby after two-year ban
Preston have signed former Barnsley defender Bambo Diaby after he completed a two-year doping ban. |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 12:50 - Jan 31 with 2874 views | kensalriser |
I'd like a pacy forward who can also score regularly from free kicks. Failing that, I still think we have an excellent shot at auto and I would have laughed at that proposition in the summer.
For all our financial doping in 2014, we struggled to finish 4th. |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 12:50 - Jan 31 with 2879 views | HAYESBOY |
Harris named new Gillingham manager
Neil Harris has been appointed as the new manager of Gillingham. | |
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| Deadline day thread on 12:55 - Jan 31 with 2809 views | Maggsinho |
| Deadline day thread on 12:33 - Jan 31 by robith |
On the flip side, a lot of pressure for those signings to perform immediately for Bournemouth, when a lot of them haven't had much football lately |
Reminds me of our trolley dash when we signed Zamora et al, and that didn't do us much good.
Also, they've already got a good squad that are underachieving so improving the squad isn't necessarily going to fix everything for them. |  | | |
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| Deadline day thread on 12:57 - Jan 31 with 2773 views | traininvain |
| Deadline day thread on 12:43 - Jan 31 by daveB |
The Bournemouth spending is going to panic people but I hope the club hold firm and do nothing stupid. They should now move clear of us and Blackburn in the race for second but they are putting the future of their club on the line to chase promotion. We shouldn't be doing that again. We have Chair coming back, McCallum back next month and can rotate the 3 forwards to keep everyone fresh.
if a deal that works for us comes up then do it if not stand firm and wait till the summer. |
Bournemouth’s strategy could quite easily fail. It’s high risk racking and stacking players while trying to maintain a happy squad. Not to mention the time it’ll take to gel so many new players.
And to be honest I think Bournemouth’s biggest weakness is their manager. Surely any half decent manager would have that squad well ahead of the likes of Blackburn and QPR. |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:14 - Jan 31 with 2573 views | Rangersw12 |
| Deadline day thread on 12:43 - Jan 31 by daveB |
The Bournemouth spending is going to panic people but I hope the club hold firm and do nothing stupid. They should now move clear of us and Blackburn in the race for second but they are putting the future of their club on the line to chase promotion. We shouldn't be doing that again. We have Chair coming back, McCallum back next month and can rotate the 3 forwards to keep everyone fresh.
if a deal that works for us comes up then do it if not stand firm and wait till the summer. |
Reminds me of our stupid transfer window in 2014 under Redknapp
I agree we should stick with what we've got.. Chair and McCallum will seem like new signings | | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:17 - Jan 31 with 2543 views | Rs_Holy |
| Deadline day thread on 12:37 - Jan 31 by Northernr |
It's a tricky window to try and explain to social media, but really it's very simple. We have a budget, there are rules in place in this league regarding overspend, we spent that budget in the summer.
It seems it's really easy to forget the summer. When last season ended the general consensus was if we could get the four loans back we'd have a hell of a chance. We did that, all on permanent deals, and that won't have been cheap - there was a fee for Field I think, Austin was obviously on big money, Johansen a three year deal is expensive. We also signed Dunne who is terrific and Dozzell. We loaned McCallum and Gray and contrary to popular opinion loans are far from free, and Gray is on huge money at Watford.
Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but I think most of us were ecstatic with that, no? Thought it was way more than we expected to do, gave us a great chance, and so far that has come to pass. Didn't sell anybody either.
I think it's pretty clear that the budget is done. It was spent in the summer, on that lot. Everybody was in favour of us doing that, it's gone really well, we're exactly where we hoped we would be in the league. We've added Sanderson, but we've had to loan out De Wijs to do it, which I think shows you how close to our maximum we are.
And, yet, now, apparently, we still need three or four more, we're short here there and everywhere, Josh Maga gets us promoted, Jamie Paterson gets us promoted. I've seen somebody professing to run a "QPR News" account Tweeting Bhatia and Fernandes telling them to "get their fingers out". "Roderick" and "Edward" have reared their heads again (still waiting for that Bright contract extension lads).
We might get one or two, a loan perhaps, Swansea cave on Paterson. But, generally, the choice was made in the summer, the budget was spent. Whatever people think of how some of those signings have done, we can't take them back with a receipt. Nor do the rules around P&S, or the club's budget, allow you to just go out and spend some more now because it might get you promoted.
I'm sure there are players moving around that we'd like to have been in for. I don't think we have that option. It's not a choice, it's just maths. |
reminds me of Newcastle all those years ago when the signing of Faustino Asprilla was going to win them the Prem... Many Newcastle fans now blame that signing for them NOT winning it. |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:19 - Jan 31 with 2504 views | TomS |
We are playing well, getting results and have a united and happy squad. There is genuine competition for places in the starting 11, with none of the fanbase genuinely concerned about the rotating selections from match to match, as we have faith that everyone selected will perform without affecting the overall effectiveness of the team.
I'm happy that we don't need to bring in any fresh talent. However, my fear is that someone will come in with a silly money offer for one of our best players. I just hope if that does happen that the board will have the discipline to ask that club to come back to us next summer to discuss it further..... |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:20 - Jan 31 with 2488 views | enfieldargh |
| Deadline day thread on 12:57 - Jan 31 by traininvain |
Bournemouth’s strategy could quite easily fail. It’s high risk racking and stacking players while trying to maintain a happy squad. Not to mention the time it’ll take to gel so many new players.
And to be honest I think Bournemouth’s biggest weakness is their manager. Surely any half decent manager would have that squad well ahead of the likes of Blackburn and QPR. |
They are now reportedly about to sign a Liverpool defender who is meant to be the next Beckenbauer
If they are after Paterson what do they do with the youngster whose been tearing up this league but at AFCON
LOve the players we have if we get one more in then great if not never mind |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 13:23 - Jan 31 with 2409 views | Antti_Heinola |
If you look at our record for the last 12 months it's top 4 form. So there's a really strong argument that we don't need to add people. Maybe in the next week or two we lose a big player to a serious injury, that would have a huge impact leaving us wishing we'd spent the extra on Paterson or whoever, but as Clive says, getting the four loans was something no one on here thought we'd get. I always thought we'd get three, but thought we wouldn't get Stef. To get all 4 was amazing.
Fact is, we have two players for every position, except perhaps CB, where it's 4 competing for 3 places, although even then we have Wallace, Ball and Kakay who can all play in a three in an emergency. We have three strikers arguably going for one place. We have two number 10s who would walk into any side in the league, barring possibly Fulham. We have a stacked midfield.
Next season, for sure, we need longer term solutions at both wing backs, whichever division we're in. But for now, I have full faith in this lot to get us top 6, which will be a hell of an achievement. |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 13:24 - Jan 31 with 2395 views | Stainrod |
| Deadline day thread on 12:37 - Jan 31 by Northernr |
It's a tricky window to try and explain to social media, but really it's very simple. We have a budget, there are rules in place in this league regarding overspend, we spent that budget in the summer.
It seems it's really easy to forget the summer. When last season ended the general consensus was if we could get the four loans back we'd have a hell of a chance. We did that, all on permanent deals, and that won't have been cheap - there was a fee for Field I think, Austin was obviously on big money, Johansen a three year deal is expensive. We also signed Dunne who is terrific and Dozzell. We loaned McCallum and Gray and contrary to popular opinion loans are far from free, and Gray is on huge money at Watford.
Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but I think most of us were ecstatic with that, no? Thought it was way more than we expected to do, gave us a great chance, and so far that has come to pass. Didn't sell anybody either.
I think it's pretty clear that the budget is done. It was spent in the summer, on that lot. Everybody was in favour of us doing that, it's gone really well, we're exactly where we hoped we would be in the league. We've added Sanderson, but we've had to loan out De Wijs to do it, which I think shows you how close to our maximum we are.
And, yet, now, apparently, we still need three or four more, we're short here there and everywhere, Josh Maga gets us promoted, Jamie Paterson gets us promoted. I've seen somebody professing to run a "QPR News" account Tweeting Bhatia and Fernandes telling them to "get their fingers out". "Roderick" and "Edward" have reared their heads again (still waiting for that Bright contract extension lads).
We might get one or two, a loan perhaps, Swansea cave on Paterson. But, generally, the choice was made in the summer, the budget was spent. Whatever people think of how some of those signings have done, we can't take them back with a receipt. Nor do the rules around P&S, or the club's budget, allow you to just go out and spend some more now because it might get you promoted.
I'm sure there are players moving around that we'd like to have been in for. I don't think we have that option. It's not a choice, it's just maths. |
Agree with this. If you take Paterson, it looks like the compromise fee would be around 500k. Lets say he wants 15 bags a week. At that stage of his career his agent will be pushing for a three year deal (even though he may only be useful for one). So by my back of a fag packet maths thats £2.75m.
I do actually think we need an attacking midfielder if we have ambitions for automatic promotion. If Willock gets injured (and he is getting kicked black and blue), a Chair lacking match sharpness is our only real creative outlet. The really successful sides have not just 11 excellent players but a strong bench who can change games. The Swansea game showed we need a bit more.
But lets also appreciate how far we have come. Plenty of opposition fans (even Forest) have been saying "if only we had Austin, Gray and Dykes to choose from". Same probably goes for Willock and Chair.
I do think an attacking midfielder is the last piece of the jigsaw - but £2.75m is a lot of dosh, even without FFP, unless we can get several more out of the door (Hammelinen, Ball, Armstrong, Betache). As Clive has shown, the credit card has already been maxed out. | | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:30 - Jan 31 with 2292 views | CamberleyR |
| Deadline day thread on 12:57 - Jan 31 by traininvain |
Bournemouth’s strategy could quite easily fail. It’s high risk racking and stacking players while trying to maintain a happy squad. Not to mention the time it’ll take to gel so many new players.
And to be honest I think Bournemouth’s biggest weakness is their manager. Surely any half decent manager would have that squad well ahead of the likes of Blackburn and QPR. |
"And to be honest I think Bournemouth’s biggest weakness is their manager. Surely any half decent manager would have that squad well ahead of the likes of Blackburn and QPR"
Agree 100%. Had we even got a point on Boxing Day we'd be two points in front of them. Parker, like Lampard though, is a media darling and is seemingly immune to criticism. |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 13:34 - Jan 31 with 2211 views | QPR_Nippon |
I feel like we're in a much stronger position now at the end of the window than we were at the start.
The main issue for us going in (other than defensive cover which has been addressed by signing Sanderson) was the lack of cover in the squad if either or both of Chair and Willock are unavaliable.
The fact that we subsequently found more than one way to cover effectively in Chair's absence - e.g. having Gray/Austin as a 2nd striker OR playing Luke Amos in a more advanced role - means that signing an extra attacking player is absolutely a luxury rather than a necessity. Just getting Illy back from AFCON feels like a new signing in itself. |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:36 - Jan 31 with 2187 views | danehoop |
| Deadline day thread on 13:24 - Jan 31 by Stainrod |
Agree with this. If you take Paterson, it looks like the compromise fee would be around 500k. Lets say he wants 15 bags a week. At that stage of his career his agent will be pushing for a three year deal (even though he may only be useful for one). So by my back of a fag packet maths thats £2.75m.
I do actually think we need an attacking midfielder if we have ambitions for automatic promotion. If Willock gets injured (and he is getting kicked black and blue), a Chair lacking match sharpness is our only real creative outlet. The really successful sides have not just 11 excellent players but a strong bench who can change games. The Swansea game showed we need a bit more.
But lets also appreciate how far we have come. Plenty of opposition fans (even Forest) have been saying "if only we had Austin, Gray and Dykes to choose from". Same probably goes for Willock and Chair.
I do think an attacking midfielder is the last piece of the jigsaw - but £2.75m is a lot of dosh, even without FFP, unless we can get several more out of the door (Hammelinen, Ball, Armstrong, Betache). As Clive has shown, the credit card has already been maxed out. |
I fully agree with you on that(and what Northern was saying earlier).
We have a good squad which had been assembled on the maximum budget we have available.. Part of me thinks that the large amount of business at Bournemouth is precisely because we are doing so well with little fuss or nonsense and its panicked them into splurging the cash on resources that they may struggle to make full use of in the time available.
We are doing extremely well and progressing quietly but steadily with our own plans. Let's let other teams worry about us for a change. |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 13:37 - Jan 31 with 2167 views | Sharpy36 |
I`d personally be looking at our u23`s and adding to that with one eye on replacing our older heads over the next 1/2/3 years.
This current squad needs next to no more tinkering. |  |
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| Deadline day thread on 13:43 - Jan 31 with 2083 views | Phildo |
In other transfer news the Everton canteen have just moved to secure extra sausages to cover an expected increase in demand |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:43 - Jan 31 with 2078 views | Northernr |
| Deadline day thread on 13:37 - Jan 31 by Sharpy36 |
I`d personally be looking at our u23`s and adding to that with one eye on replacing our older heads over the next 1/2/3 years.
This current squad needs next to no more tinkering. |
Yeh, who's the next Chair/Eze etc? Armstrong's the only one we really hear anything about now Kendall has gone. V interesting to see what's going on there. | | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:43 - Jan 31 with 2067 views | Hoopstar |
Besides watching that third goal on Saturday from Row D of the Ellerslie was about as quick as you'll see a team counter - Amos is seriously rapid. Not a running in behind type granted but he could be some weapon on the break in situations like that based on recent performances.
Fully in the camp of more than happy sticking with what we've got and sticking to our principles which have got the club into such a wonderful place in a relatively short period of time (even if most of the first 20 games last season seemed to last an eternity..)
I don't think I've ever had as much respect for a manager at QPR than I do for Warburton. |  | | |
| Deadline day thread on 13:46 - Jan 31 with 2019 views | Northernr |
| Deadline day thread on 13:30 - Jan 31 by CamberleyR |
"And to be honest I think Bournemouth’s biggest weakness is their manager. Surely any half decent manager would have that squad well ahead of the likes of Blackburn and QPR"
Agree 100%. Had we even got a point on Boxing Day we'd be two points in front of them. Parker, like Lampard though, is a media darling and is seemingly immune to criticism. |
The other thing about Parker is it's like when Pulis is your manager. Even when it's going well, it's desperately boring to watch. All about holding what you have, staying deep tight and narrow, dark arts, time wasting, injury feigning, shithousing. It means that the very second it turns even slightly bad, there's zero goodwill left in the tank, because it was so fcking awful to watch in the first place people are already sick of it. Warburton has already survived one prolonged downturn here (four wins in nearly five months at the start of last season) because we enjoy watching his team, can see what he's trying to do, and it's progressive. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:50 - Jan 31 with 1943 views | DieByYourSide |
Bournemouth can keep making signings but they can only put eleven on the pitch. It might get them up but no guarantee, and the Cantwell/Phillips money will be burned as they're expensive loans. All the pressure's on them to deliver.
Take or leave Paterson, personally. [Post edited 31 Jan 2022 13:53]
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| Deadline day thread on 13:51 - Jan 31 with 1908 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Deadline day thread on 13:43 - Jan 31 by Northernr |
Yeh, who's the next Chair/Eze etc? Armstrong's the only one we really hear anything about now Kendall has gone. V interesting to see what's going on there. |
Amrit Bansal-McNulty? or Marco Ramkile? |  |
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