| Shocking BBC article. 20:10 - Oct 12 with 20262 views | boromat |
In case you've not seen it. Good on the DaleTrust jumping on it. |  |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 05:23 - Oct 13 with 3212 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
The Trust / UTDNFS should contact the BBC & demand a full retraction both online & as the first item on Sats Football Focus or MOTD. Mr Stone should be severely disciplined if not sacked. |  | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 08:34 - Oct 13 with 3021 views | Zac_B |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 09:18 - Oct 13 with 2934 views | swindondale |
Just sent my complaint in. | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 09:38 - Oct 13 with 2883 views | 49thseason |
| Shocking BBC article. on 09:18 - Oct 13 by swindondale |
Just sent my complaint in. |
Stone's incompetence or, more likely, deliberate attempt to create an agenda is clear when you read his implication that Rochdale only budgeted £1.5m for players wages because they are short of money without mentioning there is a divisional squad playing wages cap of £1.5m in L2. When you add this crap to the "special deal" at Bolton Wanderers that the BBC has, there is a growing case for the idea that the "fair and impartial" BBC is anything but.
They are intent on making news rather than simply reporting it. |  | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 09:49 - Oct 13 with 2840 views | James1980 |
Complaint submitted.
Irony is the true story makes an excellent article . And nearly all the research has been done already. [Post edited 13 Oct 2021 9:52]
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| Shocking BBC article. on 09:57 - Oct 13 with 2807 views | electricblue |
I read that article early this morning and then just after 8am i get about half a dozen mates messaging saying have you read this article on the bbc sport....
Pure lazy journalism at its finest, what annoys me is how many have actually read it and thought of Dale in a bad light..
The club should be getting legal represenation and demand thats it is removed with a written apology.. [Post edited 13 Oct 2021 11:21]
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| Shocking BBC article. on 10:04 - Oct 13 with 2774 views | dawlishdale |
A very poorly researched article ....if indeed he researched it at all.
This actually stinks of him being given wrong information from a bitter, twisted and fully discredited former Director who was voted off the Board at the clubs EGM.
I'd fully expect a withdrawal and an apology from this amateurish hack. Why oh why do people not check what they write? | | | |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 10:36 - Oct 13 with 2696 views | tony_roch975 |
| Shocking BBC article. on 09:18 - Oct 13 by swindondale |
Just sent my complaint in. |
done mine, more needed folks | |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 10:58 - Oct 13 with 2636 views | kel |
Unless my eyesight is failing, the article seems to have disappeared off the BBC football main page.
Still accessible through the link in the OP though. [Post edited 13 Oct 2021 11:00]
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| Shocking BBC article. on 11:01 - Oct 13 with 2626 views | 1907 |
Complaint submitted.
Hope everybody follows suit.
Wish I was on Twitter so I could speak to Mr Stone direct. | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 11:03 - Oct 13 with 2623 views | DaleiLama |
| Shocking BBC article. on 10:58 - Oct 13 by kel |
Unless my eyesight is failing, the article seems to have disappeared off the BBC football main page.
Still accessible through the link in the OP though. [Post edited 13 Oct 2021 11:00]
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Still there Kel - I used it for my complaint.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rochdale
First item.
Maybe a link further up in general football has been deleted so it flies more under the radar and is only found under our club?? |  |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 11:35 - Oct 13 with 2517 views | Dalenet |
| Shocking BBC article. on 10:36 - Oct 13 by tony_roch975 |
done mine, more needed folks |
Done mine | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 11:45 - Oct 13 with 2480 views | 49thseason |
Complaining to the BBC is futile. We need to get a publication-ready, factually accurate version of the events into the hands of as many other journalists as possible and onto as many other club forums as possible. We should use his insult of an article to tell the truth and to warn fans from far and wide to take a more active interest in their clubs. | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 11:48 - Oct 13 with 2473 views | D_Alien |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-two
It's in the "League Two" section. Don't think it's been demoted by a deliberate choice but simply through the natural regression of articles, especially for lower league clubs
In the Complaints section, it says summat like "complaints will be reviewed overnight and feedback given to journos the following morning". If that were the case, and given the nature of the complaints that will have been received, i suspect the BBC just view them as irate Dale fans (true) having a pop like it's a social media outlet (very far from true)
If the BBC fail to take this seriously, they're further guilty of egregious ignorance and should be called out in every possible outlet, including via our MP |  |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 12:02 - Oct 13 with 2418 views | James1980 |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 12:03 - Oct 13 with 2411 views | leedsdale |
| Shocking BBC article. on 11:48 - Oct 13 by D_Alien |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-two
It's in the "League Two" section. Don't think it's been demoted by a deliberate choice but simply through the natural regression of articles, especially for lower league clubs
In the Complaints section, it says summat like "complaints will be reviewed overnight and feedback given to journos the following morning". If that were the case, and given the nature of the complaints that will have been received, i suspect the BBC just view them as irate Dale fans (true) having a pop like it's a social media outlet (very far from true)
If the BBC fail to take this seriously, they're further guilty of egregious ignorance and should be called out in every possible outlet, including via our MP |
One more complaint has gone in
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| Shocking BBC article. on 12:25 - Oct 13 with 2313 views | EllDale |
I've just logged a compliant.
They reckon to respond within ten days. What are the odds on us all receiving the same copy and paste reply?
It would be interesting to know if the original draft article was ever seen by a sub-editor after it was filed and before it was published? | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 12:25 - Oct 13 with 2309 views | DaleFan7 |
Added my complaint too for whatever its worth. | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 12:27 - Oct 13 with 2296 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Shocking BBC article. on 12:03 - Oct 13 by leedsdale |
One more complaint has gone in
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I'd imagine the journalist Simon Stone is now reflecting on the piece and thinking about it's credibility and wincing as a result.
He's clearly been fed a load of guff by the person(s) who briefed him on the article and whether he has fallen for it knowingly or unknowingly he's the one who has been left exposed as have the BBC and looks a bit of a mug as a result.
Also interesting in the club's statement is the comment - "The club continues to support the EFL in that investigation."
All eyes now must turn on the EFL for a statement on the progress - this is an investigation that was launched in mid-August and is now nearly 2 months in.
Simon Stone and the BBC were clearly better informed than most of us as they published:
Morton House have refused to cooperate with the EFL inquiry. However, the EFL has already interviewed a number of significant people involved in the situation and their work is on-going. According to their regulations, deals done without seeking prior approval when required are regarded as misconduct, which has the potential to attract fines for individuals depending on who is viewed as being responsible.
Maybe Simon Stone and the BBC in the next piece could focus on who is "viewed as responsible"? [Post edited 13 Oct 2021 12:49]
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| Shocking BBC article. on 12:44 - Oct 13 with 2215 views | finberty |
A slightly tangential comment here, but I note the (almost) unspoken subtext:
Lots of Money = good (irrespective of how questionable the source, and let's not ask questions eh? Let's just parrot NUFC's new wealth, regardless. Let's smirk along with the big timers earning a crust from the PL party).
Little Money = bad (and you yokels have gone and looked a gift-horse in the mouth, upsetting upstanding and blemish-free individuals in the process).
I wonder if Mr Stone received the article as an pre-prepared piece of work, and presented it as his own. It surely can't be argued to be a piece of impartial forensic financial journalism, can it? |  | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 12:50 - Oct 13 with 2176 views | judd |
| Shocking BBC article. on 12:44 - Oct 13 by finberty |
A slightly tangential comment here, but I note the (almost) unspoken subtext:
Lots of Money = good (irrespective of how questionable the source, and let's not ask questions eh? Let's just parrot NUFC's new wealth, regardless. Let's smirk along with the big timers earning a crust from the PL party).
Little Money = bad (and you yokels have gone and looked a gift-horse in the mouth, upsetting upstanding and blemish-free individuals in the process).
I wonder if Mr Stone received the article as an pre-prepared piece of work, and presented it as his own. It surely can't be argued to be a piece of impartial forensic financial journalism, can it? |
It's shite with a typo an all |  |
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| Shocking BBC article. on 12:53 - Oct 13 with 2147 views | HullDale |
Interestingly the journo has replied to a question on twitter:
Q: "...Did you consult the Club or Daletrust, whom you bizarrely abbreviate to RST?..."
A: "Yes. I did."
It would be good to know who he spoke to at the Club, and whether they were still in employment at the time he spoke to them. I don't believe for one moment he legitimately spoke to anybody from the Trust. |  | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 13:19 - Oct 13 with 2031 views | 49thseason |
| Shocking BBC article. on 12:53 - Oct 13 by HullDale |
Interestingly the journo has replied to a question on twitter:
Q: "...Did you consult the Club or Daletrust, whom you bizarrely abbreviate to RST?..."
A: "Yes. I did."
It would be good to know who he spoke to at the Club, and whether they were still in employment at the time he spoke to them. I don't believe for one moment he legitimately spoke to anybody from the Trust. |
It was highly unlikely that he would answer "no, I couldn't be arsed". Clearly, he has been given a more or less pre-written story and added his name to it. I guess the question might be asked "why would an established journo do that"?
Equally a proper journalist might have been suspicious of the motives of someone presenting him with such a story, but there does not seem to be any evidence of further research into the subject. So we are left with two options either Mr Stone is not much of a journalist or there is an agenda behind the article. Probably both? | | | |
| Shocking BBC article. on 13:21 - Oct 13 with 2009 views | judd |
| Shocking BBC article. on 13:19 - Oct 13 by 49thseason |
It was highly unlikely that he would answer "no, I couldn't be arsed". Clearly, he has been given a more or less pre-written story and added his name to it. I guess the question might be asked "why would an established journo do that"?
Equally a proper journalist might have been suspicious of the motives of someone presenting him with such a story, but there does not seem to be any evidence of further research into the subject. So we are left with two options either Mr Stone is not much of a journalist or there is an agenda behind the article. Probably both? |
He appears wholly dismissive of Charlton's exposing of Southall too. He did contact their Trust but gave them sod all coverage. | |
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