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He is now desperately trying to justify his actions. Bottom line, he knew she was a climate protester, he was angry that she was 'spoiling' his wealthy, privileged meal and he took action wholly expected from a bully boy misogynist. They all try to say sorry after the violence.
Would he have slammed a well built male and grabbed him by the throat? I think not. The man is a coward. If you or I was seen by a police officer doing this we’d be arrested. The same should apply here regardless if you support the protest or not, it does not give him the freedom to physically assault people.
Organisers have the responsibility to secure the venue etc.
Let’s unpack it a bit more and apply a specific... if, in a football match you feel,threatened and believe you need to defend your self by applying a level of force before the actual need to defend yourself and that is caught on camera... what’s the likely outcome? Do you think you’ll be attending football matches after that?
Edit bloody predicter text is so annoying...
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Self defence is a natural right.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
Campaigned for many years for, rather than just voted for if you don't mind.
I suppose thinking about it I am naughty boy for wanting us out of the EU which has just blocked the merger that may just have helped save Port Talbot steelworks and it's thousands of direct and indirect jobs in the area.
One must assume that you aren't that bothered about where those thousands of workers are going to earn a living.
Perhaps we could open up some knitted clothes and basket weaving product shops in the area to mitigate any employment shortfalls.
Feel free to let us know of your proposals and ideas.
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Feel free to let me know what those workers will do when the UK is flooded with cheap Chinese steel imports.
Errr. Maybe you’d should read it agin and then answer the actual question and not the one in you think I asked.
Do I think I’d be banned for defending myself and by extension those around me? Is that what you’re asking? I’d have to presume I’d be surrounded by witnesses to any action, so no.
That said ban or no ban we do what necessity dictates.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
For all the righteously indignant, the woman is not pressing charges.
Funny that, having been viciously assaulted on camera, eh?
Why would she? Put yourself in her place. She and activists like her are inured to the rough and tumble. It’s an occupational hazard, all part of the game.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
Why would she? Put yourself in her place. She and activists like her are inured to the rough and tumble. It’s an occupational hazard, all part of the game.
Well, that or may she had other reasons for not wanting the attention Who knows?
I do love all the sexist "oh she's a woman, couldn't possibly attack...".
Do I think I’d be banned for defending myself and by extension those around me? Is that what you’re asking? I’d have to presume I’d be surrounded by witnesses to any action, so no.
That said ban or no ban we do what necessity dictates.
I absolutely agree with your last sentence.
Regarding the first, I’m not sure you understand what the question was nor the difference between self defence and assault/reasonable force/feeling threatened.
Regarding the first, I’m not sure you understand what the question was nor the difference between self defence and assault/reasonable force/feeling threatened.
Would I wait to be hit before defending myself?
Unlikely.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
For all he knew she could have been carrying a knife, a gun, some acid. He dealt with the threat as calmly as he could have imo
Mental note. Next time a see a women with a small handbag walking towards me when I’m out in a bar I must grab her neck and remove her from the bulding.
Mental note. Next time a see a women with a small handbag walking towards me when I’m out in a bar I must grab her neck and remove her from the bulding.
Why...becuase it maybe a knife or a bomb.
What if she walks into your house uninvited?
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
I’d confront her and call the police . She’s in my house after all. If she pulled a knife and came towards me then I’d stay out of her way, protect my family etc. If she got too close I’d try disarm her even if it meant I got injured.
Mental note. Next time a see a women with a small handbag walking towards me when I’m out in a bar I must grab her neck and remove her from the bulding.
Why...becuase it maybe a knife or a bomb.
Next time you see a woman with a small handbag in the bar at a private party who has trespassed with the clear motivating of severely disrupting the party walking towards you, given the murder of Jo Cox, given a woman stabbing Stephen Timms, given the left playing down Jo Brands "joke" about" throwing acid, then always remember to give the benefit of the doubt. That way if anything did happen, you can pat yourself on the back.