| Ale Faurlin 14:41 - Sep 15 with 8600 views | brewers_hoop |
Is the decision to let him go looking dafter by the minute or have I got my rose-tinted specs on? |  | | |  |
| Ale Faurlin on 14:54 - Sep 15 with 4709 views | Northernr |
Bit of both I think mate.
On the one hand, Luongo is our only central midfielder who can pass the ball, so he'd help with that.
On the other, his lack of physicality and speed got caught out last season in exactly the same way as we did the other night - twice v Fulham most notably.
We're missing Hill more IMO - as I wrote when he left, we don't have a centre back who can properly head the ball. Lo, we're suddenly conceding from corners all the time. |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 14:56 - Sep 15 with 4700 views | StevenageRanger |
From what I read , JFH offered him a contract but Ale wanted to know he would play each week. That couldnt be guaranteed so we parted ways.
Dont think it was our choice more Ale wanted to go. Then again its only what the club put out so who knows what really happened! |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:00 - Sep 15 with 4671 views | aston_hoop |
Only made one appearance this season for Getafe in a cup defeat (he should be used to the 1st round cup defeats by now anyway). Hold on for a few months and he might get bored not playing anyway. |  |
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| Ale Faurlin on 15:01 - Sep 15 with 4665 views | Watford_Ranger |
Any two of Borysiuk/Luongo/Cousins should be decent together. I know it's fashionable to knock Henry but I really don't see what he can do that at least one of those three can't.
Borysiuk is meant to be the defensive one, Luongo can pass a ball and Cousins can run (apparently). There's also the option (hopefully not at home) to play all three and sacrifice one of our superb flying wingers. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:14 - Sep 15 with 4615 views | brewers_hoop |
| Ale Faurlin on 14:54 - Sep 15 by Northernr |
Bit of both I think mate.
On the one hand, Luongo is our only central midfielder who can pass the ball, so he'd help with that.
On the other, his lack of physicality and speed got caught out last season in exactly the same way as we did the other night - twice v Fulham most notably.
We're missing Hill more IMO - as I wrote when he left, we don't have a centre back who can properly head the ball. Lo, we're suddenly conceding from corners all the time. |
Fair points, which is why I was in a quandary myself. Just think we're crying about for a bit of creativity - especially at home - but as others have said below, maybe we'll hit upon the righ combination using what we have at our disposal.
And agree re Hill - we need to start getting the basics right. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:15 - Sep 15 with 4606 views | daveB |
I'd have kept him but probably not fair to judge yet until we've seen the Polish fella get a go and I thought Luongo was excellent in the first few games. |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:24 - Sep 15 with 4586 views | NW5Hoop |
I love Hill like everyone, but let's be honest. He had so little pace that any ball over the top caught him out by the end. And he wasn't going to get any quicker. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:25 - Sep 15 with 4576 views | Northernr |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:24 - Sep 15 by NW5Hoop |
I love Hill like everyone, but let's be honest. He had so little pace that any ball over the top caught him out by the end. And he wasn't going to get any quicker. |
True. Point remains though, we still don't have a centre back that will stick his head on the ball. | | | |
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| Ale Faurlin on 15:31 - Sep 15 with 4554 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:25 - Sep 15 by Northernr |
True. Point remains though, we still don't have a centre back that will stick his head on the ball. |
I had Hall down as "that sort" of player with Caulker the budget, borderline alcoholic Rio Ferdinand type. I think Polter was a big miss defensively too. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:34 - Sep 15 with 4540 views | Lblock |
ODH is on record as bombing them out due to his "high intensity and pressing approach"
I kind of accepted that whilst being gutted the last bit of hooped heart being ripped out of the club
Then Henry got a new contract with statements "adds depth to the squad, won't play every week"
What's being served up makes both those statements laughable and totally unpalatable |  |
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| Ale Faurlin on 15:51 - Sep 15 with 4473 views | RBlock |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:25 - Sep 15 by Northernr |
True. Point remains though, we still don't have a centre back that will stick his head on the ball. |
Didn't we buy Lynch for that hard b#stard, left footed, experienced CB role? He looked suited to it in his brief cameo v Watford in pre-season. |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:52 - Sep 15 with 4470 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:34 - Sep 15 by Lblock |
ODH is on record as bombing them out due to his "high intensity and pressing approach"
I kind of accepted that whilst being gutted the last bit of hooped heart being ripped out of the club
Then Henry got a new contract with statements "adds depth to the squad, won't play every week"
What's being served up makes both those statements laughable and totally unpalatable |
To be fair, if we'd got wingers in earlier, Cousins wouldn't have played on the wing and therefore would have played centrally. Luongo was sick. Borysuik has been injured. I very much doubt Henry is first choice, but until we have at least two fully fit and functioning CMs apart from him, he's going to play. I don't think there's been a game yet where I couldn't see the argument for him playing, and that comes from someone who never wanted us to sign him in the first place. But hopefully with Mass getting better and Borysuik getting fit, Henry will take his turn on the bench!
Let's not kid ourselves about Ale - I love him, but Newcastle would have mullered him on Tuesday. Same with Hill. I would've thought having Ned, Caulker and Hall at the back should be enough to be dominant in the air at the back. Apparently not. Lynch likely to play on Sat though as we only have one RB and Caulker is injured, so perhaps that may improve. |  |
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| Ale Faurlin on 15:54 - Sep 15 with 4465 views | The_Mole |
Tuesday was another classic example of us as a team lacking identity and both Hill and Faurlin were two professionals who I would pay to watch every week. |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:56 - Sep 15 with 4461 views | PinnerPaul |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:24 - Sep 15 by NW5Hoop |
I love Hill like everyone, but let's be honest. He had so little pace that any ball over the top caught him out by the end. And he wasn't going to get any quicker. |
and he was part of the 5-1 defeat to the giants of European football that are Celtic recently.
Clive's point is a fair one though - we certainly missed Polter's defensive help at corners on Tuesday. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 16:03 - Sep 15 with 4438 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:54 - Sep 15 by The_Mole |
Tuesday was another classic example of us as a team lacking identity and both Hill and Faurlin were two professionals who I would pay to watch every week. |
We got trounced plenty of times with at least one of them playing. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 16:11 - Sep 15 with 4415 views | BucksRanger |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:56 - Sep 15 by PinnerPaul |
and he was part of the 5-1 defeat to the giants of European football that are Celtic recently.
Clive's point is a fair one though - we certainly missed Polter's defensive help at corners on Tuesday. |
As an unused substitute, I'm not sure how Hill could have affected the result. |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 16:18 - Sep 15 with 4390 views | vegasranger |
Faurlin before all the injuries was a talented but limited player. Sadly all the injuries caught up with him and I think only Fulham in the Championship even had a look at him. I don't think Newcastle would have scored 6 with Clint Hill in the side, even at this very late stage in his career. I've mentioned this before but who is doing our scouting? It seems plodding compared to Brentford for example. What is our new ethos? | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 16:32 - Sep 15 with 4353 views | PinnerPaul |
| Ale Faurlin on 16:11 - Sep 15 by BucksRanger |
As an unused substitute, I'm not sure how Hill could have affected the result. |
Yes apologised for that on another thread - sure I saw him on the highlights, but obviously not!
Point is still sort of valid though - if he can't get in THAT Rangers side................. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 16:53 - Sep 15 with 4299 views | THEBUSH |
I saw some of that game and pretty sure it was
Ale who lost the ball in midfield that led to the other
teams goal, just saying like  |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 17:00 - Sep 15 with 4284 views | bosh67 |
I did shout out to JFH when 2-0 down against Preston.. what was it about Ale Faurlin linking up play that you didn't get? It was a bit unfair as JFH had offered him a contract. I think it was in the food and beverage department?
We miss him so much because he didn't need pace to link play up and we are sorely missing that this season. Luongo I just don't know if he is a similar player. Every player we have seems to be more suited to holding midfield, not too well as it turns out, rather than a playmaker. |  |
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| Ale Faurlin on 17:16 - Sep 15 with 4248 views | W13R |
| Ale Faurlin on 17:00 - Sep 15 by bosh67 |
I did shout out to JFH when 2-0 down against Preston.. what was it about Ale Faurlin linking up play that you didn't get? It was a bit unfair as JFH had offered him a contract. I think it was in the food and beverage department?
We miss him so much because he didn't need pace to link play up and we are sorely missing that this season. Luongo I just don't know if he is a similar player. Every player we have seems to be more suited to holding midfield, not too well as it turns out, rather than a playmaker. |
Exactly. He was our Pirlo, could pick a forward pass for fun.
One of the best midfielders we have had for many years, shame about the injuries as he could have gone onto better things. |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 17:29 - Sep 15 with 4221 views | PunteR |
I could be wrong but i'm sure both Faurlin and Hill were playing for us when we received a hidings before. It's also an absolute miracle they are both playing football at all still.
I think there is a touch of rose tinted specs on.
They've both gone now so its up to our new players and manager to get this team sorted. |  |
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| Ale Faurlin on 17:56 - Sep 15 with 4166 views | parker64 |
Faurlin was great at the club but with the best will in the world his time's gone. We could have kept another non-scoring midfielder but with dodgy knees which have obviously affected his running ability. | | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 18:03 - Sep 15 with 4151 views | BasingstokeR |
| Ale Faurlin on 15:34 - Sep 15 by Lblock |
ODH is on record as bombing them out due to his "high intensity and pressing approach"
I kind of accepted that whilst being gutted the last bit of hooped heart being ripped out of the club
Then Henry got a new contract with statements "adds depth to the squad, won't play every week"
What's being served up makes both those statements laughable and totally unpalatable |
What does ODH stand for? |  | | |
| Ale Faurlin on 18:52 - Sep 15 with 4057 views | LadbrokeR |
| Ale Faurlin on 17:16 - Sep 15 by W13R |
Exactly. He was our Pirlo, could pick a forward pass for fun.
One of the best midfielders we have had for many years, shame about the injuries as he could have gone onto better things. |
Pirlo are you sure ? | | | |
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