| Joe Allen to Stoke? 21:09 - Jul 20 with 55054 views | Jango |
Gone into odds on to join Stoke with a few links on Twitter reporting a bid rising to £13.5million has been accepted by liverpool [Post edited 20 Jul 2016 21:10]
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:58 - Jul 21 with 4264 views | plasjack |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:47 - Jul 21 by WxmJax |
I think Stoke ARE a bigger club than us. Bigger ground, fan base, history, as are most of the clubs in the division which make our achievements even better. Newcastle, Leeds, Villa are all bigger but even if they hate us they'll have a grudging respect for what's happening in SA1 and would love to swap places with us.
Whether people like it or not we are little old Swansea, punching well above our weight and long may it continue. The joy of beating these big teams on their own patch is just something else (even though we have always been lucky enough to catch every one of them on an off day). |
As i see it we are only slightly in front of three other teams for being BIGGER this next P/L season, let you choose which teams. |  | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:59 - Jul 21 with 4262 views | bonymine |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:47 - Jul 21 by WxmJax |
I think Stoke ARE a bigger club than us. Bigger ground, fan base, history, as are most of the clubs in the division which make our achievements even better. Newcastle, Leeds, Villa are all bigger but even if they hate us they'll have a grudging respect for what's happening in SA1 and would love to swap places with us.
Whether people like it or not we are little old Swansea, punching well above our weight and long may it continue. The joy of beating these big teams on their own patch is just something else (even though we have always been lucky enough to catch every one of them on an off day). |
Stoke are definitely a bigger club than us just look at their current transfer targets ;
£13M for Joey & £20M for Berahino .....
We, on the other hand have so far ;
Sold Paloschi for £6M
Sold Eder for £5M
Looking to offload Gomis to Marseille
Bought ;
Fer £4.75M
Another (4th choice) Goalkeeper........
WTF 😳😳😳
I remember our 2nd season in the FIRST DIVISION in 1982/83 and as hard as it is to say it I see a
repeat of that.
Just hope I'm wrong !
STID. Together Stronger 💪💪💪 |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 09:11 - Jul 22 with 4026 views | jojaca |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:59 - Jul 21 by bonymine |
Stoke are definitely a bigger club than us just look at their current transfer targets ;
£13M for Joey & £20M for Berahino .....
We, on the other hand have so far ;
Sold Paloschi for £6M
Sold Eder for £5M
Looking to offload Gomis to Marseille
Bought ;
Fer £4.75M
Another (4th choice) Goalkeeper........
WTF 😳😳😳
I remember our 2nd season in the FIRST DIVISION in 1982/83 and as hard as it is to say it I see a
repeat of that.
Just hope I'm wrong !
STID. Together Stronger 💪💪💪 |
What happened to out of contract Tom Carroll, wouldn't he be better option younger and cheaper. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 09:50 - Jul 22 with 3977 views | shandyjack |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:58 - Jul 21 by plasjack |
As i see it we are only slightly in front of three other teams for being BIGGER this next P/L season, let you choose which teams. |
Burnley and Watford only 2 i can think of Hull at a stretch |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 12:11 - Jul 22 with 3858 views | AussieSwan |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:58 - Jul 21 by plasjack |
As i see it we are only slightly in front of three other teams for being BIGGER this next P/L season, let you choose which teams. |
Burnley, Hull and Bournemouth for mine
I'd argue West Brom as well, maybe on par with Watford too | |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 12:18 - Jul 22 with 3835 views | AnotherJohn |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:59 - Jul 21 by bonymine |
Stoke are definitely a bigger club than us just look at their current transfer targets ;
£13M for Joey & £20M for Berahino .....
We, on the other hand have so far ;
Sold Paloschi for £6M
Sold Eder for £5M
Looking to offload Gomis to Marseille
Bought ;
Fer £4.75M
Another (4th choice) Goalkeeper........
WTF 😳😳😳
I remember our 2nd season in the FIRST DIVISION in 1982/83 and as hard as it is to say it I see a
repeat of that.
Just hope I'm wrong !
STID. Together Stronger 💪💪💪 |
As far as I can remember the only signing was Dean Saunders, who had been a youth player. People say we went down because we overspent. It is true that our financial commitments exceeded our means, but arguably we went down because we did not have the money to invest when we needed to strengthen in that 2nd season. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 12:34 - Jul 22 with 3787 views | AussieSwan |
I'm not brimming with confidence after reading Huw's comments
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/we-are-still-in-the-hunt-for-liverpool-s
""Joe is away as far as I know because, like our players, he's finished the Euros and then needs so many weeks off.
"Over the next week or 10 days things may move on, but we must remember we have a full complement of midfield players as it is.
"Timing is the thing with Joe. Whether it's now or in the future it needs to be the time that suits us and we'll have to wait and see if things happen on that front.
"We're still in the hunt. Joe is one of our players and we'll keep that open for as long as we can.
"I think £13 million is probably a high valuation for a player with a year left in his contract. But with the market as it is, we've all seen some values put on players, it's not unrealistic.
"It's a high valuation, but the market has gone that way."
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:27 - Jul 22 with 3647 views | QuakerJack |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 12:34 - Jul 22 by AussieSwan |
I'm not brimming with confidence after reading Huw's comments
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/we-are-still-in-the-hunt-for-liverpool-s
""Joe is away as far as I know because, like our players, he's finished the Euros and then needs so many weeks off.
"Over the next week or 10 days things may move on, but we must remember we have a full complement of midfield players as it is.
"Timing is the thing with Joe. Whether it's now or in the future it needs to be the time that suits us and we'll have to wait and see if things happen on that front.
"We're still in the hunt. Joe is one of our players and we'll keep that open for as long as we can.
"I think £13 million is probably a high valuation for a player with a year left in his contract. But with the market as it is, we've all seen some values put on players, it's not unrealistic.
"It's a high valuation, but the market has gone that way."
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Well timing wise it's now... I know for a fact that he and his missus really want him to go to the Swans and they're hoping that a move will happen... whether it does or not depends solely on us by the sounds of it. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:43 - Jul 22 with 3604 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 12:34 - Jul 22 by AussieSwan |
I'm not brimming with confidence after reading Huw's comments
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/we-are-still-in-the-hunt-for-liverpool-s
""Joe is away as far as I know because, like our players, he's finished the Euros and then needs so many weeks off.
"Over the next week or 10 days things may move on, but we must remember we have a full complement of midfield players as it is.
"Timing is the thing with Joe. Whether it's now or in the future it needs to be the time that suits us and we'll have to wait and see if things happen on that front.
"We're still in the hunt. Joe is one of our players and we'll keep that open for as long as we can.
"I think £13 million is probably a high valuation for a player with a year left in his contract. But with the market as it is, we've all seen some values put on players, it's not unrealistic.
"It's a high valuation, but the market has gone that way."
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It's funny - I thought it was more positive than I expected - he actually says it's not an unreasonable valuation which I found a shock.
I personally am convinced we'll sign him as the new owners will want good PR. Shame that we didn't a few weeks ago when we could have got him for £10m I think. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:47 - Jul 22 with 3572 views | veng9 |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 19:59 - Jul 21 by bonymine |
Stoke are definitely a bigger club than us just look at their current transfer targets ;
£13M for Joey & £20M for Berahino .....
We, on the other hand have so far ;
Sold Paloschi for £6M
Sold Eder for £5M
Looking to offload Gomis to Marseille
Bought ;
Fer £4.75M
Another (4th choice) Goalkeeper........
WTF 😳😳😳
I remember our 2nd season in the FIRST DIVISION in 1982/83 and as hard as it is to say it I see a
repeat of that.
Just hope I'm wrong !
STID. Together Stronger 💪💪💪 |
I find comparing players we've signed compared to players a club have been linked with but not signed a very strange comparison. Especially when one of those players is a target of ours. You didn't mention any of the people we've been linked with rumour or not. So far Stoke haven't signed anyone. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:47 - Jul 22 with 3569 views | DafyddHuw |
Agreed that we need a Joe Allen-type player.
That doesn't mean that it has to be Joe Allen.
We can buy equivalent quality for cheaper abroad. |  | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:53 - Jul 22 with 3539 views | LeonisGod |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:47 - Jul 22 by DafyddHuw |
Agreed that we need a Joe Allen-type player.
That doesn't mean that it has to be Joe Allen.
We can buy equivalent quality for cheaper abroad. |
We need an Italian Allen. This fella might do it
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:55 - Jul 22 with 3534 views | Highjack |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 12:34 - Jul 22 by AussieSwan |
I'm not brimming with confidence after reading Huw's comments
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/we-are-still-in-the-hunt-for-liverpool-s
""Joe is away as far as I know because, like our players, he's finished the Euros and then needs so many weeks off.
"Over the next week or 10 days things may move on, but we must remember we have a full complement of midfield players as it is.
"Timing is the thing with Joe. Whether it's now or in the future it needs to be the time that suits us and we'll have to wait and see if things happen on that front.
"We're still in the hunt. Joe is one of our players and we'll keep that open for as long as we can.
"I think £13 million is probably a high valuation for a player with a year left in his contract. But with the market as it is, we've all seen some values put on players, it's not unrealistic.
"It's a high valuation, but the market has gone that way."
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The fact Huw is mentioning it at all speaks volumes. He is usually notoriously tight lipped about players we're linked with and most signings appear out of the blue waving the scarf without the media getting any sort of knowledge of it.
If he's speaking publically about it then it must be quite likely it will happen. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 17:45 - Jul 22 with 3333 views | Dyfnant |
if he wants to come home he simply tells Liverpool that there's no chance Stokes gonna happen and accept the £8M or so or get zero next year. On top of £2M wages wasted and probable signing on bonus he's due for completing his contract. I wouldn't offer a penny more than been offered so far by us. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 18:29 - Jul 22 with 3258 views | Glyn1 |
This BBC news item is a bit more positive:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36865493
"Joe is one of our own players and if at all possible we would probably make that signing," said Jenkins.
Jenkins revealed the Swans have already spoken to Liverpool about re-signing Allen, who has one year left on his Anfield contract, for a Swansea record fee and confirmed the club will "put in a little bit more effort" now their American takeover has been finalised. [Post edited 22 Jul 2016 18:33]
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 01:17 - Jul 23 with 3047 views | owainglyndwr |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 18:29 - Jul 22 by Glyn1 |
This BBC news item is a bit more positive:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36865493
"Joe is one of our own players and if at all possible we would probably make that signing," said Jenkins.
Jenkins revealed the Swans have already spoken to Liverpool about re-signing Allen, who has one year left on his Anfield contract, for a Swansea record fee and confirmed the club will "put in a little bit more effort" now their American takeover has been finalised. [Post edited 22 Jul 2016 18:33]
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Joe wants to be back home, Stoke deal has stalled,
If terms can be agreed he will be back |  | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 01:43 - Jul 23 with 3024 views | tylagarwjack |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 01:17 - Jul 23 by owainglyndwr |
Joe wants to be back home, Stoke deal has stalled,
If terms can be agreed he will be back |
As good a player as he is I can't believe we will spend £13m, or even £10m, to get him back.
Where does he play? He's no CDM, we have Cork and Leon for that position anyway, and we have KI and Fer for the CM position, both of whom are more likely to score goals than Joe.
I like Joe as a player a lot, but IMO we have to prioritise bringing in players who can score goals in the Premier League as we have very few (Gylfi and Ayew) who are capable of scoring regularly, and Joe, for all his qualities, won't do that, his assists record isn't that good either.
You could argue that we bomb KI and buy Joe instead, and yes, there is the Welsh V South Korea factor to consider in terms of who will be at the club for longer but the fact remains that KI has an 8 goal Prem season on his CV and I would be amazed if Joe ever got close to that. If I was FG I would be intent on getting the best out of KI rather than selling him and buying Joe for more.
For me, the money would be better spent on other areas of the team. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 03:37 - Jul 23 with 2972 views | kyswans |
If Joey's coming back, Ki is gone.
We now know what Stoke will pay – with Ki's international draw, I think 10m for him is reasonable.
We'd essentially pay 3m to swap Ki for Joey. That's a win in my book. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 08:08 - Jul 23 with 2766 views | Johnw102 |
Much as I would like to see Joe back here £13mill for a player in the last year of his contract and in a position that we have adequate cover for, is too much IMO . Spending that sort of money when we have no strikers at the club makes no sense at all. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 08:16 - Jul 23 with 2744 views | Borojack |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 08:08 - Jul 23 by Johnw102 |
Much as I would like to see Joe back here £13mill for a player in the last year of his contract and in a position that we have adequate cover for, is too much IMO . Spending that sort of money when we have no strikers at the club makes no sense at all. |
All Joe has to do is stick to his guns and say I dont want to sign for Stoke RFC.
KI is worth about 10 million so were right to knock back the first bid.
There wiĺl be a 2nd bid no doubt once Joe makes it clear he has no interest in playing rugby. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:57 - Jul 23 with 2516 views | kyswans |
The Guardian link that is shown says Stoke have a bid accepted, not Swansea. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:59 - Jul 23 with 2501 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:57 - Jul 23 by kyswans |
The Guardian link that is shown says Stoke have a bid accepted, not Swansea. |
The point that Jenkins is playing on is that the bid has been accepted by Liverpool, but not necessarily by Joe himself, cos he's on his hols. | | | |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 14:03 - Jul 23 with 2482 views | max936 |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 09:11 - Jul 22 by jojaca |
What happened to out of contract Tom Carroll, wouldn't he be better option younger and cheaper. |
No, no and no, Joey is a far far superior player to Tom Carroll, in fact he couldn't lace his boots. |  |
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| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 14:09 - Jul 23 with 2453 views | dobjack2 |
| Joe Allen to Stoke? on 13:59 - Jul 23 by A_Fans_Dad |
The point that Jenkins is playing on is that the bid has been accepted by Liverpool, but not necessarily by Joe himself, cos he's on his hols. |
And of course we wouldn't have spoken with Joes agent. | | | |
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