| We need to play our best 11 today. 10:35 - Nov 28 with 12210 views | JimmyRustler |
Eastham HAS to start.
McDermott HAS to start.
Vincenti HAS to start.
Alessandra SHOULD be given a run out.
We've persevered with Bunney for long enough. It's time for something new. Today is almost a must win and the whole squad (including KH) needs a confidence boost. Anything other than a victory today is failure. |  | | |  |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 10:49 - Nov 28 with 7247 views | aleanddale |
No mugs Port Vale.. They are not going to roll over and have there belly rubbed!
Hilly will ultimately decide the truth is we don't know half of how players perform in training.
On paper I agree it would be nice to see a perceived best starting 11 but with niggling injuries - attitude and a whole host of other factors do we really know what that is?
Very harsh on Bunny as well - played a lot better of late. |  | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 11:06 - Nov 28 with 7209 views | dale1968 |
Totally agree but will it happen??
NO |  |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 11:49 - Nov 28 with 7110 views | isitme |
I agree.
I don't think Hill will put out what he thinks are the best 11 available players are for this game based on the opposition, current form, weather etc!
Obviously he sets out to lose games. [Post edited 28 Nov 2015 12:14]
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 12:18 - Nov 28 with 7020 views | sandy_dale |
Let's be honest, Eastham WONT play, lancashire definitely WILL play. |  | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 12:22 - Nov 28 with 7008 views | borntogo |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 11:49 - Nov 28 by isitme |
I agree.
I don't think Hill will put out what he thinks are the best 11 available players are for this game based on the opposition, current form, weather etc!
Obviously he sets out to lose games. [Post edited 28 Nov 2015 12:14]
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He sets teams out primarily not to lose. He used to set them out to win. The difference is both subtle but immense and is the reason there will be hardly any floating Daleys up at Spotland today and each of us who are addicted are travelling up there with, let's be honest, not a great deal of expectation or joy in our hearts. | | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 12:33 - Nov 28 with 6983 views | TalkingSutty |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 12:22 - Nov 28 by borntogo |
He sets teams out primarily not to lose. He used to set them out to win. The difference is both subtle but immense and is the reason there will be hardly any floating Daleys up at Spotland today and each of us who are addicted are travelling up there with, let's be honest, not a great deal of expectation or joy in our hearts. |
I agree with how we seem to set up for games, we seem to be more concerned in the strengths of the opposition and neglect our own strengths. These are a supporters observations and I don't profess to be clued up on how to approach a game of professional football. I just know we perform better when on the front foot, which seems to have been in evidence when chasing the game most of the time.
I feel expectant though today, see how the new keeper performs ( He looked good at Donny) and also the lad from Blackburn. Big televised game next Sunday so I am expecting those with the shirt to make it difficult for Hilly to drop them. A win gives us 6 out of the last 9 points which would be a good return, so there's plenty to look forward to this afternoon. |  | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 13:04 - Nov 28 with 6933 views | aleanddale |
This horrendous weather will have already put off and floater / undecided.
I am timing my arrival at Spotland today for 2.59pm!!
One for the hardy Dale Fan this afternoon. 2350 in attendance and 400 of these from Stoke on Trent! | | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 13:14 - Nov 28 with 6896 views | dingdangblue |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 12:22 - Nov 28 by borntogo |
He sets teams out primarily not to lose. He used to set them out to win. The difference is both subtle but immense and is the reason there will be hardly any floating Daleys up at Spotland today and each of us who are addicted are travelling up there with, let's be honest, not a great deal of expectation or joy in our hearts. |
Dont know about negative Hill - this message board has plenty of negative fans. |  |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 14:58 - Nov 28 with 6758 views | sandylaner1 |
we aren't doing
again |  | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 15:22 - Nov 28 with 6720 views | inthenet |
we haven't even played our best 6 |  |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 15:25 - Nov 28 with 6713 views | scooby |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 13:14 - Nov 28 by dingdangblue |
Dont know about negative Hill - this message board has plenty of negative fans. |
is stating reality negative? something odd going on / has changed. different mindset and it is rubbing off on the players and fans. | | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 15:59 - Nov 28 with 6643 views | dingdangblue |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 15:25 - Nov 28 by scooby |
is stating reality negative? something odd going on / has changed. different mindset and it is rubbing off on the players and fans. |
Playing very positive today? Hows that negative. | |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 16:20 - Nov 28 with 6618 views | nordenblue |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 12:33 - Nov 28 by TalkingSutty |
I agree with how we seem to set up for games, we seem to be more concerned in the strengths of the opposition and neglect our own strengths. These are a supporters observations and I don't profess to be clued up on how to approach a game of professional football. I just know we perform better when on the front foot, which seems to have been in evidence when chasing the game most of the time.
I feel expectant though today, see how the new keeper performs ( He looked good at Donny) and also the lad from Blackburn. Big televised game next Sunday so I am expecting those with the shirt to make it difficult for Hilly to drop them. A win gives us 6 out of the last 9 points which would be a good return, so there's plenty to look forward to this afternoon. |
People sat in the stands see the team set up to be defensive and as a home fixture i find it incredibly boring and negative to watch,id hazard a guess i wont be the only one.
I made a choice not to bother yet again today no doubt so have many others,pretty sad really even more so when playing a home fixture. | | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 16:57 - Nov 28 with 6562 views | dingdangblue |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 16:20 - Nov 28 by nordenblue |
People sat in the stands see the team set up to be defensive and as a home fixture i find it incredibly boring and negative to watch,id hazard a guess i wont be the only one.
I made a choice not to bother yet again today no doubt so have many others,pretty sad really even more so when playing a home fixture. |
Your loss today, cracking game. | |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:01 - Nov 28 with 6549 views | 1mark1 |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 16:57 - Nov 28 by dingdangblue |
Your loss today, cracking game. |
I would rather be happy having missed a game that we have won, then turn up to some of the games that I have attended and been bored stiff, and or with a crap performance and lost. Especially when money is tight, and can be spent on more important things.
UP THE DALE. |  |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:19 - Nov 28 with 6488 views | dingdangblue |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 16:20 - Nov 28 by nordenblue |
People sat in the stands see the team set up to be defensive and as a home fixture i find it incredibly boring and negative to watch,id hazard a guess i wont be the only one.
I made a choice not to bother yet again today no doubt so have many others,pretty sad really even more so when playing a home fixture. |
The team sheet wasn't negative today? Midfield / forward line of Camps,O'Sullivan,Hendo,Bunney,Hooper and Andrew - there's not a defender amoungst them. | |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:27 - Nov 28 with 6436 views | 442Dale |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:19 - Nov 28 by dingdangblue |
The team sheet wasn't negative today? Midfield / forward line of Camps,O'Sullivan,Hendo,Bunney,Hooper and Andrew - there's not a defender amoungst them. |
I think that's the main thing that came out of today, that wasn't a team set out to contain, and we were as positive as we've been for a long time.
The criticisms may well be justified previously but Hill sent out a team to go at the opposition today,everything was done on the front foot - players like Hooper, Camps and MCDermott (and O'Sullivan before his correct withdrawal) will always look to turn and go forward. It really was great to watch in the second half, and while things didn't always go right we were going at them with players running at defenders.
Hooper was a revelation, a lot of similarities between him and McDermott and the two dovetailed really well. Credit to Camps in the holding role too, he's much better there than further forward when he tries the killer ball too often. Andrew had a decent game as well, his finishing let him down again though. Good to see Bennett back on form at full back too.
Still don't get the keeper situation, because the distribution from the loanee is really not so great. |  |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:30 - Nov 28 with 6408 views | 1mark1 |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 13:14 - Nov 28 by dingdangblue |
Dont know about negative Hill - this message board has plenty of negative fans. |
Or people that care deeply about the club and team, and want to express their honest held beliefs and thoughts.
One could argue that this is the place to express those views and thoughts, rather than expressing them in earshot of the players and or manager.
I do hope people do keep expressing their thoughts because it would be very boring if everyone just expressed the thoughts that the management or the club would like to hear. | |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:35 - Nov 28 with 6368 views | 442Dale |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:30 - Nov 28 by 1mark1 |
Or people that care deeply about the club and team, and want to express their honest held beliefs and thoughts.
One could argue that this is the place to express those views and thoughts, rather than expressing them in earshot of the players and or manager.
I do hope people do keep expressing their thoughts because it would be very boring if everyone just expressed the thoughts that the management or the club would like to hear. |
I agree completely with that last line. However anyone who missed the game today also missed a really positive display. Constructive criticism of the performances and tactics recently were justified, Hill and his players have responded. | |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:43 - Nov 28 with 6272 views | R17ALE |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:35 - Nov 28 by 442Dale |
I agree completely with that last line. However anyone who missed the game today also missed a really positive display. Constructive criticism of the performances and tactics recently were justified, Hill and his players have responded. |
And responded brilliantly.
That second half was one of the best second halves I've ever seen at Dale since the Shrewsbury 4-3 ten years ago to the day, featured by TVOS on another thread.
We were brimming with attacking intent and how Port Vale have escaped without an embarrassing score-line God only knows.
We've just arse raped (in the second half) an established League 1 club with miles more resources than we have. Time not to nit pick, but to enjoy! |  |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:45 - Nov 28 with 6250 views | 1mark1 |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:35 - Nov 28 by 442Dale |
I agree completely with that last line. However anyone who missed the game today also missed a really positive display. Constructive criticism of the performances and tactics recently were justified, Hill and his players have responded. |
That's good to know , and you are someone who tells it as it is, you say it's crap if it is, decent if it is etc.
I do tend to miss good performances quite often, but often turn up to defeats and or crap performances. | |
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| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:47 - Nov 28 with 6225 views | isitme |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:45 - Nov 28 by 1mark1 |
That's good to know , and you are someone who tells it as it is, you say it's crap if it is, decent if it is etc.
I do tend to miss good performances quite often, but often turn up to defeats and or crap performances. |
Are you planning to go against Bury? | | | |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:51 - Nov 28 with 6200 views | 1mark1 |
| We need to play our best 11 today. on 17:47 - Nov 28 by isitme |
Are you planning to go against Bury? |
I think for the good of the team, and my health and fiances I might well give it a miss. I don't know yet. | |
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