| KP retires from one-day and T20 13:08 - May 31 with 1687 views | BlackCrowe |
FFS. Crap timing - Ozzies here next month for one-dayers and T20 title defence later this summer. Brilliant as a batsman, he can also be a right arse. |  |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:14 - May 31 with 1191 views | benbu |
He can focus purely on the tests no. he was great to watch in ODi and T20 but he is right in what he said about letting others be ready for WC2015. The standard ODi series and T20 against one team arent generally that great anyway. The T20 and ODi world cups are the only exception. The test team is the pinnacle of the game where currently England are extremely strong in depth and have now won 7 series in a row at home, not been done before ever. This is our best cricket team probably ever and it only looks like it can improve.
Went to the third day at Lords vs West Indies and off to the oval for day 1 vs South Africa. |  | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:19 - May 31 with 1174 views | Northernr |
Well done to him for giving up that side and concentrating on tests rather than other way around. |  | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:20 - May 31 with 1172 views | wittle |
saving himself for the ipl where the big bucks are. |  | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:25 - May 31 with 1157 views | BlackCrowe |
It's the timing that stinks. Do it well before the season starts and not just as a summer of internationals and world cup defence is about to start.
But yes, much rather this than retiring from test cricket.
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:35 - May 31 with 1145 views | jonno |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:20 - May 31 by wittle |
saving himself for the ipl where the big bucks are. |
Exactly. The West Indies would have a stronger team but some of their better players choose to play in the IPL instead of Tests. At least KP is not doing that, but this decision will be to allow him play more IPL cricket. |  | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:40 - May 31 with 1134 views | austinqpr |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:25 - May 31 by BlackCrowe |
It's the timing that stinks. Do it well before the season starts and not just as a summer of internationals and world cup defence is about to start.
But yes, much rather this than retiring from test cricket.
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I believe he only retired from One day Internationals. But Englands selection policy states: 'any player making himself unavailable for either of the one-day formats, rules himself out of consideration for both formats'. | | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:56 - May 31 with 1110 views | Bluce_Ree |
I thought KP was a bit gash now? I don't follow cricket but I'm sure the radio said he kept having crap innings. |  |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:58 - May 31 with 1109 views | wittle |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:56 - May 31 by Bluce_Ree |
I thought KP was a bit gash now? I don't follow cricket but I'm sure the radio said he kept having crap innings. |
no he is a match winner on his day | | | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 14:20 - May 31 with 1088 views | Antti_Heinola |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 13:56 - May 31 by Bluce_Ree |
I thought KP was a bit gash now? I don't follow cricket but I'm sure the radio said he kept having crap innings. |
Still averages about 50 in Tests. Centuries in his last 2 one dayers. total gash. |  |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 19:28 - May 31 with 1026 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 14:20 - May 31 by Antti_Heinola |
Still averages about 50 in Tests. Centuries in his last 2 one dayers. total gash. |
Best shot of him now, compare him to Bell, who is technically brilliant, a joy to watch, every shot perfection.
KP is just a slogger that the opposition have worked out. Believe me - I know, that's how I got shot knees. When he was playing for Cannock, he didn't impress me then and even less now. The David Beckham of cricket. Goodbye. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 19:38 - May 31 with 1016 views | NorthLondonR |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 19:28 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Best shot of him now, compare him to Bell, who is technically brilliant, a joy to watch, every shot perfection.
KP is just a slogger that the opposition have worked out. Believe me - I know, that's how I got shot knees. When he was playing for Cannock, he didn't impress me then and even less now. The David Beckham of cricket. Goodbye. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Depends how you define technique - sure Bell is maturing well and has finally started to come good but can you really call a man with a test average of nearly 50 a slogger?
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 20:11 - May 31 with 999 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 19:38 - May 31 by NorthLondonR |
Depends how you define technique - sure Bell is maturing well and has finally started to come good but can you really call a man with a test average of nearly 50 a slogger?
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Yes, K.P's a slogger. His pick up is crooked, he plays across his pad, and looks to work every ball through the arc from mid wicket to mid on. Can't off drive or cover drive to save his life. Watch him on TV the next time he bats.He is also batting at 4 where he can be a flat track bully to score runs, Bell is marooned at 6, often running out of partners, like the last Test against the West Indies. Bell was our best bat by a country mile in the Ashes in Oz a couple of year ago, the Aussies couldn't work out why he was stuck at 6 and neither can I. He is the natural number 4, KP can booger off to make IPL money slogging it in India, which is why he's resigned from one day stuff. | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 20:39 - May 31 with 986 views | BlackCrowe |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 20:11 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Yes, K.P's a slogger. His pick up is crooked, he plays across his pad, and looks to work every ball through the arc from mid wicket to mid on. Can't off drive or cover drive to save his life. Watch him on TV the next time he bats.He is also batting at 4 where he can be a flat track bully to score runs, Bell is marooned at 6, often running out of partners, like the last Test against the West Indies. Bell was our best bat by a country mile in the Ashes in Oz a couple of year ago, the Aussies couldn't work out why he was stuck at 6 and neither can I. He is the natural number 4, KP can booger off to make IPL money slogging it in India, which is why he's resigned from one day stuff. |
In a nutshell. Well put...especially the Bell marooned bit. | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 20:59 - May 31 with 981 views | windsorhoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 20:11 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Yes, K.P's a slogger. His pick up is crooked, he plays across his pad, and looks to work every ball through the arc from mid wicket to mid on. Can't off drive or cover drive to save his life. Watch him on TV the next time he bats.He is also batting at 4 where he can be a flat track bully to score runs, Bell is marooned at 6, often running out of partners, like the last Test against the West Indies. Bell was our best bat by a country mile in the Ashes in Oz a couple of year ago, the Aussies couldn't work out why he was stuck at 6 and neither can I. He is the natural number 4, KP can booger off to make IPL money slogging it in India, which is why he's resigned from one day stuff. |
I think bell being our best bat in the ashes series in Australia is a bit far. Alistair Cook surely?????
As for Bell check out his dismissal against the west indies that's playing across the line. You can be technically gifted as you want to be but give me a choice between KP and Bell and id go for bell every time.
Surely surely Taylor from leicestershire must get a call up especially after all the runs he has made with the lions. | | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:05 - May 31 with 972 views | BlackCrowe |
We have an incredibly solid batting line up pretty much 1 to 8 or 9 but for entertainment 'ooh-ahh' value Cooky and Trott don't cut it (and Strauss to a less extent). KP and Bell (and Prior to a less extent) can get pulses racing. | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:12 - May 31 with 969 views | NorthLondonR |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:05 - May 31 by BlackCrowe |
We have an incredibly solid batting line up pretty much 1 to 8 or 9 but for entertainment 'ooh-ahh' value Cooky and Trott don't cut it (and Strauss to a less extent). KP and Bell (and Prior to a less extent) can get pulses racing. |
That's the point you have a batting line-up 1-6 all playing the same you have problems, which is why Pietersen is a great addition, completely different to the rest. Plus Bell has been poor (yes poor) up the order which is why he resides at 5-6...I like Bell, even though in his early years he was desperate to clone Pietersen, but he is coming of age.. Ooh I love a good cricket debate. Play across the line, sobers would have been useless if this was a fault
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:32 - May 31 with 955 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:12 - May 31 by NorthLondonR |
That's the point you have a batting line-up 1-6 all playing the same you have problems, which is why Pietersen is a great addition, completely different to the rest. Plus Bell has been poor (yes poor) up the order which is why he resides at 5-6...I like Bell, even though in his early years he was desperate to clone Pietersen, but he is coming of age.. Ooh I love a good cricket debate. Play across the line, sobers would have been useless if this was a fault
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Sobers had a great eye, not great technique, although he was a highly effective big hitter, as was Viv Richards, Flintoff, Botham and most Australians, they all hit rather than timed the ball.
But they couldn't play shots all round the ground, which is the sign of a great technique. Cowdrey, Graveney, Vaughan, Barry Richards, Tendulkar, Greg Chappell were prime examples of this. Bell would be there with them, if he wasn't stuck at 6.
An example of what I'm talking about it to the right of this post!!! | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:40 - May 31 with 942 views | BlackCrowe |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:32 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Sobers had a great eye, not great technique, although he was a highly effective big hitter, as was Viv Richards, Flintoff, Botham and most Australians, they all hit rather than timed the ball.
But they couldn't play shots all round the ground, which is the sign of a great technique. Cowdrey, Graveney, Vaughan, Barry Richards, Tendulkar, Greg Chappell were prime examples of this. Bell would be there with them, if he wasn't stuck at 6.
An example of what I'm talking about it to the right of this post!!! |
Bell has the technique to be a true great, needs the self-belief to see it through. English test cricket is bloody great at the moment. | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:30 - May 31 with 927 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:40 - May 31 by BlackCrowe |
Bell has the technique to be a true great, needs the self-belief to see it through. English test cricket is bloody great at the moment. |
Agreed, spot on. but the shame is that English football is heading in the other direction. I'll be amazed if we emerge with any credit from the Euros. Just as well the Test Matches are running at the same time. | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:32 - May 31 with 924 views | Kiwi76 |
Going to be a great series vs Sth Africa -they were class outfit touring down here last summer.
Steyn, Morkel and now Philander are top class bowling attack with Kallis still a threat.
Very similar looking sides in terms of batting/bowling strength battling to be #1 |  | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:32 - May 31 with 924 views | NorthLondonR |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:32 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Sobers had a great eye, not great technique, although he was a highly effective big hitter, as was Viv Richards, Flintoff, Botham and most Australians, they all hit rather than timed the ball.
But they couldn't play shots all round the ground, which is the sign of a great technique. Cowdrey, Graveney, Vaughan, Barry Richards, Tendulkar, Greg Chappell were prime examples of this. Bell would be there with them, if he wasn't stuck at 6.
An example of what I'm talking about it to the right of this post!!! |
He's no, he's number 5 and mainly because he has not performed higher up the order - but he's worth a go can't disagree.. However on a par with Tendulkar and no Lara? Sport is but a game of opinions ....... | | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:33 - May 31 with 923 views | johnhoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 21:40 - May 31 by BlackCrowe |
Bell has the technique to be a true great, needs the self-belief to see it through. English test cricket is bloody great at the moment. |
I am loving the success of the England test team but do people honestly think they are that good at the moment or isn't it more that there's a real dearth of class bowling attacks in the world at the right now.
I certainly don't think our present batting line up would have lasted long against Holding,Roberts,Marshall and Garner and I think the batting we had then-Gooch,Gower,Lamb,Gatting and Botham-would have scored a phenomenal amount of runs against present day bowling attacks.They were incredibly unlucky to be playing at a time when the West Indies bowling was virtually unplayable. | | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:35 - May 31 with 921 views | Antti_Heinola |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 20:11 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Yes, K.P's a slogger. His pick up is crooked, he plays across his pad, and looks to work every ball through the arc from mid wicket to mid on. Can't off drive or cover drive to save his life. Watch him on TV the next time he bats.He is also batting at 4 where he can be a flat track bully to score runs, Bell is marooned at 6, often running out of partners, like the last Test against the West Indies. Bell was our best bat by a country mile in the Ashes in Oz a couple of year ago, the Aussies couldn't work out why he was stuck at 6 and neither can I. He is the natural number 4, KP can booger off to make IPL money slogging it in India, which is why he's resigned from one day stuff. |
doesn't really matter how you get your runs, does it? Cook is hardly a pretty player, but gets runs. Besides, Bell has been at 5 for ages, not really sure where you get this thing about him batting at 6. The difference between 4 and 5 is negligible. Shiv bats at 5 and gets tons of runs. I love Belly, don't get me wrong, but Pietersen's a very good player, as i said, you don't get a test average around 50 without some technique. | |
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| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:48 - May 31 with 912 views | hamptonhillhoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 19:28 - May 31 by ShotKneesHoop |
Best shot of him now, compare him to Bell, who is technically brilliant, a joy to watch, every shot perfection.
KP is just a slogger that the opposition have worked out. Believe me - I know, that's how I got shot knees. When he was playing for Cannock, he didn't impress me then and even less now. The David Beckham of cricket. Goodbye. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Just short of 7000 test runs and twenty centuries in seven years as a test batsman. No England batsman has ever scored more than twenty two. Ever! You have very high standards. I think he's a bit more than a slogger don't you? |  | | |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 07:00 - Jun 1 with 875 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| KP retires from one-day and T20 on 22:32 - May 31 by NorthLondonR |
He's no, he's number 5 and mainly because he has not performed higher up the order - but he's worth a go can't disagree.. However on a par with Tendulkar and no Lara? Sport is but a game of opinions ....... |
Sorry, I left out Lara, he should be in the high technique squad, my error, and I'm sure there's a few more to add to the list.
I know that Bell is number 5 now but he seemed to be marooned at 6 for ages. On that basis, he will get to 4 in another 3 years.
Bell will also last in the Test game much longer because his technique, rather than brute force will see him through. KP will be gone within the next year and he is more interested in slogging for money with IPL and Test Cricket gets in his way. Cowdrey was recalled for England when he was in his 40's and Bell will emulate him. | |
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