| Barton appeal rejected 15:29 - Jan 4 with 5025 views | Northernr |
3 game ban - MK, Newcastle, Wigan.
There are no words. |  | | |  |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:09 - Jan 4 with 1116 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:06 - Jan 4 by PinnerPaul |
It doesn't Baz.
Actual words are "Strikes or attempts to strike an opponent"
In this case they are implying that he attempted to heda butt him.
Intent doesn't come into it, as you say how can anyone judge intent? |
If he 'attempted to headbutt him' though as the ref stated it implies he failed to connect - if he failed to connect why did Johnson double over backwards clutching his face?
I'd love to read the official wording in the referee's report and i bet it's not what he initially told them it was. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:12 - Jan 4 with 1106 views | daveB |
can we appeal to UEFA on the grounds that we're shit and need him for the Wigan game. It worked for Rooney |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:12 - Jan 4 with 1106 views | Northernr |
Could we do with a draw with MK now so Barton is available for the Wigan match? | | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:13 - Jan 4 with 1102 views | wombat |
just when you thought the fa couldnt feck it up anymore they come up with this
absolute joke of the highest order
oh well im sure theres plenty out there happy now with barton missing 2 massive games for us in jan. |  |
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:17 - Jan 4 with 1075 views | BazWoT |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:12 - Jan 4 by Northernr |
Could we do with a draw with MK now so Barton is available for the Wigan match? |
No, we have Mackie don't forget........ |  |
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:17 - Jan 4 with 1065 views | QPR1882 |
The fact they never increased it to 4 games sort of tells us they know what they should have done but have now been instructed to back refs,as per Wolves.
NO FCKING BACKBONE............. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:18 - Jan 4 with 1061 views | kropotkin41 |
We've been stitched up like a kipper and no-one gives a toss for the justice of the case. Absolutely disgraceful article in The Guardian about it.........I'm not posting a link because I don't want to provoke any heart attacks or strokes! |  |
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:36 - Jan 4 with 973 views | stansleftfoot |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:17 - Jan 4 by QPR1882 |
The fact they never increased it to 4 games sort of tells us they know what they should have done but have now been instructed to back refs,as per Wolves.
NO FCKING BACKBONE............. |
1882, I think that is so true, its a stated and excepted policy that if you appeal and fail an extra game is added.
The FA are like a reed in the wind....the trouble is that most of the wind comes out of their committee's a/holes.
The constant use of outside people to make simple judgement about Sporting discipline kind of indicates their lack of trust in their own management of the game. | | | |
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:37 - Jan 4 with 961 views | robith |
I can only laugh.
A sad, dark, knowing laugh |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:43 - Jan 4 with 943 views | RsStaines |
For those that saw the Man City v Liverpool game last night and the head to head confrontation between Skrtel and Dzeko.
Can anyone explain the difference between that and the Barton/Johnson episode as there foreheads definitely met.
The only difference I saw was that neither Skrtel or Dzeko pulled there heads back.
Oh! And the other big difference was the referee actually saw the incident and spoke to them both but neither even received a yellow card. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:43 - Jan 4 with 940 views | WatfordR |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:18 - Jan 4 by kropotkin41 |
We've been stitched up like a kipper and no-one gives a toss for the justice of the case. Absolutely disgraceful article in The Guardian about it.........I'm not posting a link because I don't want to provoke any heart attacks or strokes! |
What it will ultimately need is a club or a player to legally challenge the FA when a valid appeal is turned down. It will cost, but it will also frighten the FA into remembering that their obligation is overseeing fair play and not protecting incompetent officiating by officials fast tracked into positions of responsibility they are not ready for. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:46 - Jan 4 with 921 views | calders |
if it was any other ref involved the outcome may have been different, a case of the fa standing by there newly promoted ref and the very fact that it was Barton helped them come to this disgraceful and bent decision.
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:46 - Jan 4 with 920 views | DANRANGER |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:17 - Jan 4 by QPR1882 |
The fact they never increased it to 4 games sort of tells us they know what they should have done but have now been instructed to back refs,as per Wolves.
NO FCKING BACKBONE............. |
Would love for them to actually come out and explain the chain of events using the video evidence. They probably didn't need to have a meeting on this as they were always going to back the ref in an issue that has become so high profile.
Once again the fan is punished and all they have done is encourage players to continue to feign injury to gain an advantage. They missed an opportunity here to take a stand but I guess they have missed many previously also.
The game is going to sh*t and the FA are shocking to think that both the Barton and the Wolves decisions were correct. To be honest the Cahill red they did rescind was more of a red than both these as although a distance from goal there was no question that he didn't get the ball. Ridiculous. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:48 - Jan 4 with 901 views | Neil_SI |
I think part of the problem is that Barton made some rash comments on Twitter about potentially suing the officials for the decision, which probably hasn't sat very well with The FA.
It's also very risky to label players as cheats, as Neil Warnock did in his press interview after the game, however he feels. So none of this stuff helped our case with The FA, not that you'd have any confidence in them in the first place. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:50 - Jan 4 with 897 views | DylanP |
I am not particularly surprised but I am completely outraged and disgusted.
I know that you all know why so I will just add the following:
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  |
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:51 - Jan 4 with 838 views | TGRRRSSS |
| Barton appeal rejected on 15:43 - Jan 4 by adhoc_qpr |
Violent conduct based on the shoulder bump?? Or are the FA just pretending there really was a headbutt so they don't have to deal with the repercussions on the standard of refereeing and players cheating.
Either way the fact they didn't add a game for frivilous appeal clearly shows to me that they know the decision was wrong, but don't care. |
Yes your first answer the offical refereeing/cheating of players and officials.
Swarbrick should never ref at this level again neither should the official who was also involved. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:52 - Jan 4 with 835 views | PinnerPaul |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:01 - Jan 4 by DevonWhite |
This is my biggest grievance with it as well. The fourth official is not allowed to influence decisions on the pitch. We've already had FIFA covering up this happening with Zidane at the World Cup. Scandalous all round. |
Bit of an urban myth that as well I'm afraid.
From the Laws
"He (4th Official) assists the referee to control the match in accordance with the Laws of the Game. The referee, however, retains the authority to decide on all points connected with play." | | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:53 - Jan 4 with 832 views | jonno |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:09 - Jan 4 by hamptonhillhoop |
I'm not shocked, I'm just very angry. I appreciate youve been alright about this but your manager and some of your players should be embarrassed |
Why would they be embarrassed? They got the three points and that's all that matters these days. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:54 - Jan 4 with 827 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:36 - Jan 4 by stansleftfoot |
1882, I think that is so true, its a stated and excepted policy that if you appeal and fail an extra game is added.
The FA are like a reed in the wind....the trouble is that most of the wind comes out of their committee's a/holes.
The constant use of outside people to make simple judgement about Sporting discipline kind of indicates their lack of trust in their own management of the game. |
it's not if you appeal and fail, it's if the appeal is deemed 'frivolous' - which this clearly wasn't. |  |
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:54 - Jan 4 with 826 views | Drewster |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:48 - Jan 4 by Neil_SI |
I think part of the problem is that Barton made some rash comments on Twitter about potentially suing the officials for the decision, which probably hasn't sat very well with The FA.
It's also very risky to label players as cheats, as Neil Warnock did in his press interview after the game, however he feels. So none of this stuff helped our case with The FA, not that you'd have any confidence in them in the first place. |
Was just about to say the same thing.
If I can offer a balanced view, he hasnt done himself any justice by banging on about legal action against officials using the Twitter thing.
And...what goes around comes around - think back to the first game of the season with him and pingpong or whatever of Arsenal.
And... the FA are probably still p@ssed at us over the Faurlin affair.
Time for Our Joey to through his bladdy mobile away, get off Tw@tter and get his head down and concentrate on keeping us up when he gets back.
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| Barton appeal rejected on 16:55 - Jan 4 with 819 views | fLaMeBoY |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:09 - Jan 4 by hamptonhillhoop |
I'm not shocked, I'm just very angry. I appreciate youve been alright about this but your manager and some of your players should be embarrassed |
Not surprised after the Gerviniho incident early this season where Barton dived like a tart. Bet the FA were pissing themselves when we appealed. | | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:57 - Jan 4 with 808 views | WatfordR |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:48 - Jan 4 by Neil_SI |
I think part of the problem is that Barton made some rash comments on Twitter about potentially suing the officials for the decision, which probably hasn't sat very well with The FA.
It's also very risky to label players as cheats, as Neil Warnock did in his press interview after the game, however he feels. So none of this stuff helped our case with The FA, not that you'd have any confidence in them in the first place. |
Neil, the sole purpose of the Appeals Committe is now to protect referees who are fast tracked too fast by the FA.
IMO, it will take an individual or a club to take legal action against the FA to reverse this policy. Restraint of trade, defamation of character, loss of earnings, just off the top of my head, bound to be dozens more. If they arent stopped, we'll end with some clown the equivalent of Blatter running the FA. | | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:58 - Jan 4 with 804 views | jonno |
| Barton appeal rejected on 15:34 - Jan 4 by TheBlob |
What happens if we draw up at MK?Only one league game then. |
I tell you what would be funny. We're two goals up at MK Dons with a minute to go (yeah, I know...). We run down our end of the pitch and score an own goal twice in the last minute, quite obviously and deliberately. Barton then only misses one league game. What would the w*nkers at the FA do about THAT? | | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:58 - Jan 4 with 802 views | QPR_Jim |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:48 - Jan 4 by Neil_SI |
I think part of the problem is that Barton made some rash comments on Twitter about potentially suing the officials for the decision, which probably hasn't sat very well with The FA.
It's also very risky to label players as cheats, as Neil Warnock did in his press interview after the game, however he feels. So none of this stuff helped our case with The FA, not that you'd have any confidence in them in the first place. |
Isn't that part of the problem though, the FA being too political. If they want to fine Warnock or Barton for their comments and their behaviour then go ahead but the descision about Barton's red card should be based on events on the field.
Players and managers should be free to say what they feel, if that gets them in more trouble then so be it, but thats wholly seperate from on field issues. Also Ref's should be accountable and give their reasonings for their actions after the match for all to see. The fact we aren't told exactly why Barton was sent off, despite having a very good indication, leads to the FA being able to minipulate appeals to get the outcome they desire rather than a fair outcome. |  | | |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:58 - Jan 4 with 797 views | hamptonhillhoop |
| Barton appeal rejected on 16:53 - Jan 4 by jonno |
Why would they be embarrassed? They got the three points and that's all that matters these days. |
I didn't say they would, they'll be delighted. I said they should |  | | |
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