| Williams out 16:38 - Dec 14 with 8042 views | Chippy69 |
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| They make us feel indebted
For saving us from hell
And then they put us through it
It's time the bastards fell
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| Williams out on 11:29 - Dec 19 with 923 views | RichardO |
| Williams out on 21:25 - Dec 18 by sons_of_omri |
I wouldn’t say it if we played a high tempo game but we don’t. We looked second best in strength and fitness to Cardiff at home and that was only in August |
And it is exactly at the point where we don't play high tempo the problems appear and yet if you are ahead in games you can still play at a high tempo but you don't need your full backs bombing on recklessly leaving us exposed on the wings also forcing midfield to drop too deep to cover the opposition's need to attack . |  | | |
| Williams out on 11:57 - Dec 19 with 886 views | RichardO |
All managers must expect their team to come under pressure at some points in a game, playing away from home the home teams fans expect them to attack unnumbered, if a team goes behind again the opposition must be expected to attack us.
We have to be set up to defend properly.
Cooper set up his teams to be hardto beat but struggledto keep the goals for tally up,
Martin's teams thought once we were on top then to keep pressure on we keep attacking with no hint of caution in the set up of the team.
Potter's team seemly got the balance a bit better but failed to defend against set pieces resulting in loss points.
William's has gone from the Cooper mode and now the Martin mode lets see if he can go to the Potter mode while being able to defend against the set pieces.
We have played some good football even against the top teams but we have also played badly in the same games.
Got ot get the balance right. | | | |
| Williams out on 12:39 - Dec 19 with 825 views | jack247 |
| Williams out on 21:25 - Dec 18 by sons_of_omri |
I wouldn’t say it if we played a high tempo game but we don’t. We looked second best in strength and fitness to Cardiff at home and that was only in August |
We dominated that game until 60/70 minutes when the substitutions started happening. We brought in the likes of Naughton, Abdullai and Vipotnik, while they brought on physical, aggressive players who pretty much just bullied us and we were lucky to get away with a draw.
Whether that’s down to fitness or squad depth is up for debate, I’d say it’s a bit of both.
I remember commenting that if we were going to play like that, we needed to put the game out of sight before our starting eleven started to tire. | | | |
| Williams out on 16:22 - Dec 19 with 737 views | nantywatcher |
LW completely lost me after his press conference. Ashley Williams slaughtered Gary O'Neil on MotD saying he had no time for a manager who constantly blamed the players and not accepting any personal blame for the club's results. LW comments made O'Neil look like a saint. His man management and leadership against Sunderland was nothing short of a disgrace. Within 5 minutes of the restart it was obvious Sunderland had come out with a vigorous and energetic approach to the game. Did he adjust at all. Not one iota, oh than he his obviously he thought his plan was going so well, that after 70 minutes he kept with plan that he kept the formation just replaced personally. (As a side note Eom may well have gone on the pitch with a book to read.) LW post match attitude was like a spoilt 8 year old moaning that he did not get the Xbox he thought he deserved. He needs a massive about turn in attitude, which would seem to be out of his reach. Sadly I can see no positive future with him at the helm. | | | |
| Williams out on 17:56 - Dec 19 with 698 views | Andyconky |
| Williams out on 16:22 - Dec 19 by nantywatcher |
LW completely lost me after his press conference. Ashley Williams slaughtered Gary O'Neil on MotD saying he had no time for a manager who constantly blamed the players and not accepting any personal blame for the club's results. LW comments made O'Neil look like a saint. His man management and leadership against Sunderland was nothing short of a disgrace. Within 5 minutes of the restart it was obvious Sunderland had come out with a vigorous and energetic approach to the game. Did he adjust at all. Not one iota, oh than he his obviously he thought his plan was going so well, that after 70 minutes he kept with plan that he kept the formation just replaced personally. (As a side note Eom may well have gone on the pitch with a book to read.) LW post match attitude was like a spoilt 8 year old moaning that he did not get the Xbox he thought he deserved. He needs a massive about turn in attitude, which would seem to be out of his reach. Sadly I can see no positive future with him at the helm. |
For me it's just the complete lack of any individuality. If any subs are brought on they are there just to do the same job. There is no individuality allowed within his structure and absolutely painting by numbers. This approach may succeed occasionally but cannot bear fruit long term. You literally turn up to a game and know exactly how it will go |  |
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| Williams out on 18:13 - Dec 19 with 686 views | onehunglow |
| Williams out on 16:22 - Dec 19 by nantywatcher |
LW completely lost me after his press conference. Ashley Williams slaughtered Gary O'Neil on MotD saying he had no time for a manager who constantly blamed the players and not accepting any personal blame for the club's results. LW comments made O'Neil look like a saint. His man management and leadership against Sunderland was nothing short of a disgrace. Within 5 minutes of the restart it was obvious Sunderland had come out with a vigorous and energetic approach to the game. Did he adjust at all. Not one iota, oh than he his obviously he thought his plan was going so well, that after 70 minutes he kept with plan that he kept the formation just replaced personally. (As a side note Eom may well have gone on the pitch with a book to read.) LW post match attitude was like a spoilt 8 year old moaning that he did not get the Xbox he thought he deserved. He needs a massive about turn in attitude, which would seem to be out of his reach. Sadly I can see no positive future with him at the helm. |
You’ve been reading my mind
Williams is a Farm Foods version of his former mentor .
He will take us nowhere and quite why he gets the support he does beats me . He has shown no signs at all of improving players . We’ve discussed this before and someone reckoned he’s improved Key. Oh no he hasn’t .
Neither has he improved RonLd
Players still subbed as of routine ,not how they are playing
Ludicrous tactics deployed including suicide ball which we thought we’d rid ourselves of. We haven’t .
I’m sure he’s a lovely chap . | |
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| Williams out on 18:33 - Dec 19 with 645 views | vetchonian |
| Williams out on 18:13 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
You’ve been reading my mind
Williams is a Farm Foods version of his former mentor .
He will take us nowhere and quite why he gets the support he does beats me . He has shown no signs at all of improving players . We’ve discussed this before and someone reckoned he’s improved Key. Oh no he hasn’t .
Neither has he improved RonLd
Players still subbed as of routine ,not how they are playing
Ludicrous tactics deployed including suicide ball which we thought we’d rid ourselves of. We haven’t .
I’m sure he’s a lovely chap . |
Franco was subbed....played his first full 90 minutes.
We have nothing of substance coming off our bench to change things.
I sometimes wonder what our fans expect especially after 8 years of decrying Kaplan and Levian for their lack if investment in players | |
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| Williams out on 18:36 - Dec 19 with 630 views | vetchonian |
| Williams out on 18:13 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
You’ve been reading my mind
Williams is a Farm Foods version of his former mentor .
He will take us nowhere and quite why he gets the support he does beats me . He has shown no signs at all of improving players . We’ve discussed this before and someone reckoned he’s improved Key. Oh no he hasn’t .
Neither has he improved RonLd
Players still subbed as of routine ,not how they are playing
Ludicrous tactics deployed including suicide ball which we thought we’d rid ourselves of. We haven’t .
I’m sure he’s a lovely chap . |
Franco was subbed....played his first full 90 minutes.
We have nothing of substance coming off our bench to change things.
I sometimes wonder what our fans expect especially after 8 years of decrying Kaplan and Levian for their lack if investment in players | |
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| Williams out on 18:51 - Dec 19 with 596 views | onehunglow |
| Williams out on 18:36 - Dec 19 by vetchonian |
Franco was subbed....played his first full 90 minutes.
We have nothing of substance coming off our bench to change things.
I sometimes wonder what our fans expect especially after 8 years of decrying Kaplan and Levian for their lack if investment in players |
I am not saying our sourcing of players is good 3nough. Anything but . | |
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| Williams out on 18:54 - Dec 19 with 582 views | vetchonian |
| Williams out on 18:51 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
I am not saying our sourcing of players is good 3nough. Anything but . |
exactly so Williams is restricted as to what he can do | |
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| Williams out on 19:09 - Dec 19 with 568 views | Fireboy2 |
| Williams out on 18:54 - Dec 19 by vetchonian |
exactly so Williams is restricted as to what he can do |
This ^
Until we get cooper, parker and ginnelly back it will be the same every game
If we get them back then perhaps abdullai could play in his proper position in the centre of midfield. |  | | |
| Williams out on 19:24 - Dec 19 with 547 views | jack247 |
| Williams out on 19:09 - Dec 19 by Fireboy2 |
This ^
Until we get cooper, parker and ginnelly back it will be the same every game
If we get them back then perhaps abdullai could play in his proper position in the centre of midfield. |
Five games in two weeks coming up. This is where our squad could get really exposed. | | | |
| Williams out on 05:18 - Dec 20 with 435 views | RichardO |
Against Leeds and Sunderland in the first halves we gave away leads or goals not because of poor quality players or bad fitness levels it was because we weren't set up defensively not marking correctly with adequate cover.
We do set up correctly at set pieces to stop counter attacks having the right players in place but in open play we did not.
To conceded the number of goals we did only proves the point.
Now some of the forward players are getting up to speed or returning we now need to look at the defensive side of the game and go back to being tighter at the back.
Because we have given goals away even to a number of lesser teams of late. | | | |
| Williams out on 05:45 - Dec 20 with 419 views | sons_of_omri |
| Williams out on 19:09 - Dec 19 by Fireboy2 |
This ^
Until we get cooper, parker and ginnelly back it will be the same every game
If we get them back then perhaps abdullai could play in his proper position in the centre of midfield. |
I don’t think he will sadly. He’ll just disappear from the bench | | | |
| Williams out on 05:54 - Dec 20 with 410 views | sons_of_omri |
| Williams out on 05:18 - Dec 20 by RichardO |
Against Leeds and Sunderland in the first halves we gave away leads or goals not because of poor quality players or bad fitness levels it was because we weren't set up defensively not marking correctly with adequate cover.
We do set up correctly at set pieces to stop counter attacks having the right players in place but in open play we did not.
To conceded the number of goals we did only proves the point.
Now some of the forward players are getting up to speed or returning we now need to look at the defensive side of the game and go back to being tighter at the back.
Because we have given goals away even to a number of lesser teams of late. |
I mentioned some time ago that the new owners might want to try something different re the coaching staff. For all that people moan about the budget other managers often tactically get the better of him because he doesn’t have an answer to counter the changes they make.
It will boil down to the decision- ok we’ve got more money to spend - do we give it to LW and hope for the best (and maybe waste precious time) or do we get someone in who has tactical nous , lots of contacts and a good playing career behind him? If we are future proofing the club for a possible PL return does anyone see LW managing there? I don’t . | | | |
| Williams out on 08:50 - Dec 20 with 367 views | RichardO |
| Williams out on 05:54 - Dec 20 by sons_of_omri |
I mentioned some time ago that the new owners might want to try something different re the coaching staff. For all that people moan about the budget other managers often tactically get the better of him because he doesn’t have an answer to counter the changes they make.
It will boil down to the decision- ok we’ve got more money to spend - do we give it to LW and hope for the best (and maybe waste precious time) or do we get someone in who has tactical nous , lots of contacts and a good playing career behind him? If we are future proofing the club for a possible PL return does anyone see LW managing there? I don’t . |
To his credit he has tried different things not making wholesale changes to the starting eleven trying to keep experienced players on the pitch for as long as he could some forced on him by injuries but the concept that attack is the best form of defence while it may be the preferred option and against more consistent teams you really don't want to be giving needless goals away by bad marking and making bad mistakes.
If you don't get your defence right you will struggle. | | | |
| Williams out on 08:55 - Dec 20 with 360 views | onehunglow |
| Williams out on 18:54 - Dec 19 by vetchonian |
exactly so Williams is restricted as to what he can do |
He is but he controls the way we play,which is the key issue . | |
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| Williams out on 09:46 - Dec 20 with 329 views | onehunglow |
And however many minutes are added on.
We need ,more than anything ,a change of mind set and improve game management .
We can do this | |
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| Williams out on 09:56 - Dec 20 with 320 views | RichardO |
With the ageing of the likes of Allen and Naughton, state of Darling's and Cabango's contracts, Christie short term contract and age, his unwillingness to use others at his disposal the like of Tjoe-A-On on the bench and not used. Cooper used Bidewell and Manning together to shore up the defence to make us better protected on the flanks and given our left sided imbalance, can't see all those issues being resolved in the January window but some may be but William's will just have to get the best out of the players at his disposal. | | | |
| Williams out on 10:05 - Dec 20 with 316 views | onehunglow |
| Williams out on 09:56 - Dec 20 by RichardO |
With the ageing of the likes of Allen and Naughton, state of Darling's and Cabango's contracts, Christie short term contract and age, his unwillingness to use others at his disposal the like of Tjoe-A-On on the bench and not used. Cooper used Bidewell and Manning together to shore up the defence to make us better protected on the flanks and given our left sided imbalance, can't see all those issues being resolved in the January window but some may be but William's will just have to get the best out of the players at his disposal. |
Indeed Rich and ensure his staff play in their most comfortable positions and do what they do best whee they are most effective . | |
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| Williams out on 10:14 - Dec 20 with 303 views | swan_si |
| Williams out on 05:54 - Dec 20 by sons_of_omri |
I mentioned some time ago that the new owners might want to try something different re the coaching staff. For all that people moan about the budget other managers often tactically get the better of him because he doesn’t have an answer to counter the changes they make.
It will boil down to the decision- ok we’ve got more money to spend - do we give it to LW and hope for the best (and maybe waste precious time) or do we get someone in who has tactical nous , lots of contacts and a good playing career behind him? If we are future proofing the club for a possible PL return does anyone see LW managing there? I don’t . |
"Lots of contacts and a good playing career behind him" 🤔 Wayne Rooney might available soon.🤦♂️ |  | | |
| Williams out on 11:19 - Dec 20 with 242 views | Fireboy2 |
| Williams out on 05:45 - Dec 20 by sons_of_omri |
I don’t think he will sadly. He’ll just disappear from the bench |
Well if that happens then we will have a stronger squad. | | | |
| Williams out on 11:47 - Dec 20 with 215 views | jack247 |
| Williams out on 05:45 - Dec 20 by sons_of_omri |
I don’t think he will sadly. He’ll just disappear from the bench |
He’d be better off disappearing off on loan somewhere he can play 90 minutes in midfield regularly. He’s not coping with the pace and intensity at the moment and that would be worse in central midfield.
Needs must at the moment, he has to be here. I’m not sure why Williams prefers him to the likes of Govea or even Naughton and push either fullback forward. | | | |
| Williams out on 11:53 - Dec 20 with 213 views | Whiterockin |
| Williams out on 11:47 - Dec 20 by jack247 |
He’d be better off disappearing off on loan somewhere he can play 90 minutes in midfield regularly. He’s not coping with the pace and intensity at the moment and that would be worse in central midfield.
Needs must at the moment, he has to be here. I’m not sure why Williams prefers him to the likes of Govea or even Naughton and push either fullback forward. |
Abdulai has been a decent player for the u21s even when out wide, I expect Williams is hoping he will just click. But with the continual basic mistakes he makes there is no way I would put him in midfield. For some the step up is just too great is it nerves, confidence or just not good enough, who knows. |  | | |
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