| Allen back in Wales contention? on 13:09 - Sep 26 with 2138 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Look at Ramsey who had " unfinished business" with Wales and ended up finishing off Cardiff city with silly wages stopping them getting a decent centre forward while getting treatment for weeks on end.
Joe needs to play at least 20 games for Swansea. |  |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 13:49 - Sep 26 with 2088 views | onehunglow |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:39 - Sep 26 with 1992 views | Fireboy2 |
I'm glad that he's been asked.
Playing for your country is the ultimate honour, I think joe will take bellamy up on his offer and I'm glad too, we need his experience in the middle of the park, imagine a midfield of Ampadu, James and Allen 🤗 |  | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:47 - Sep 26 with 1979 views | Whiterockin |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:39 - Sep 26 by Fireboy2 |
I'm glad that he's been asked.
Playing for your country is the ultimate honour, I think joe will take bellamy up on his offer and I'm glad too, we need his experience in the middle of the park, imagine a midfield of Ampadu, James and Allen 🤗 |
Sorry mate club before country on this one for me. |  | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:52 - Sep 26 with 1946 views | builthjack |
He will do a great job coming on with 20-25 minutes to go, steadying the ship. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:53 - Sep 26 with 1953 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:39 - Sep 26 by Fireboy2 |
I'm glad that he's been asked.
Playing for your country is the ultimate honour, I think joe will take bellamy up on his offer and I'm glad too, we need his experience in the middle of the park, imagine a midfield of Ampadu, James and Allen 🤗 |
We can't keep him fit for us and avoiding the extra toll onhis body was why he retired from internationals.
It's entirely up to him but it will be bad for the Swans. | | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:53 - Sep 26 with 1953 views | Fireboy2 |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:47 - Sep 26 by Whiterockin |
Sorry mate club before country on this one for me. |
Don't be, everyone has a opinion, imo yours is wrong, it is what it is though 😉👍 | | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:56 - Sep 26 with 1946 views | Fireboy2 |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:53 - Sep 26 by SullutaCreturned |
We can't keep him fit for us and avoiding the extra toll onhis body was why he retired from internationals.
It's entirely up to him but it will be bad for the Swans. |
It is his decision and imo I think he will go for it.
He's getting back to full fitness, the only reason he isnt starting, like he did for a lot of last season is because franco is ripping up trees. | | | |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 19:10 - Sep 26 with 1911 views | KeithHaynes |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 18:52 - Sep 26 by builthjack |
He will do a great job coming on with 20-25 minutes to go, steadying the ship. |
Hopefully better than he has been recently for the Swans. |  |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 19:17 - Sep 26 with 1892 views | builthjack |
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 19:42 - Sep 26 with 1822 views | Just_Dave |
If he'd been playing 25 games a season for us then yeah crack on but he's hardly strung a run of games for us since his return. We pay his wages . Imagine the reaction if he comes back from international duty with an injury | | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 20:15 - Sep 26 with 1755 views | Fireboy2 |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 19:42 - Sep 26 by Just_Dave |
If he'd been playing 25 games a season for us then yeah crack on but he's hardly strung a run of games for us since his return. We pay his wages . Imagine the reaction if he comes back from international duty with an injury |
Ateotd it's his decision, he isnt stupid, he knows his own body, if he decides to go then he's obviously happy with his fitness. | | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 21:47 - Sep 26 with 1655 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 20:15 - Sep 26 by Fireboy2 |
Ateotd it's his decision, he isnt stupid, he knows his own body, if he decides to go then he's obviously happy with his fitness. |
He knows his own body and that is why he retired. If he has second thoughts it means he is not sure about his body.
He could feel he is not good enough for 90 mins for Swansea anymore and playing for Wales in better than 10 minute cameos.
If he plays for Wales he will get injured. It is almost guaranteed as with Ramsey.
Another issue is the fees the World cup organisers pay for clubs foe use of their players.
Did Swansea not get £1m for Allen Ntcham and Cooper from Qatar WC? [Post edited 26 Sep 21:52]
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:02 - Sep 26 with 1629 views | Dr_Winston |
I would be immensely pleased if no Swans player ever got called up for International duty again. |  |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:09 - Sep 26 with 1621 views | Whiterockin |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:02 - Sep 26 by Dr_Winston |
I would be immensely pleased if no Swans player ever got called up for International duty again. |
Cooper seems a better player with more confidence since his international game. | | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:11 - Sep 26 with 1600 views | builthjack |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:02 - Sep 26 by Dr_Winston |
I would be immensely pleased if no Swans player ever got called up for International duty again. |
Then we would likely be in League 1 or below.
What next -
Should they ban International football ?
No World Cups, No Euros.
I would be pleased if every player of ours played International football. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:19 - Sep 26 with 1591 views | Fireboy2 |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 21:47 - Sep 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He knows his own body and that is why he retired. If he has second thoughts it means he is not sure about his body.
He could feel he is not good enough for 90 mins for Swansea anymore and playing for Wales in better than 10 minute cameos.
If he plays for Wales he will get injured. It is almost guaranteed as with Ramsey.
Another issue is the fees the World cup organisers pay for clubs foe use of their players.
Did Swansea not get £1m for Allen Ntcham and Cooper from Qatar WC? [Post edited 26 Sep 21:52]
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He had just come back from injury at the wc, he should have never played, it fvcked his head up.
Bellamy knows what he offers, he will want joey around the squad for his experience and he also knows that joey can only do cameos, if joey thinks he upto it he will go back, i for one won't blame him as no matter what some bellends on this forum say, there is nothing better than playing for your country 🏴❤️ | | | |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:23 - Sep 26 with 1585 views | Dr_Winston |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:11 - Sep 26 by builthjack |
Then we would likely be in League 1 or below.
What next -
Should they ban International football ?
No World Cups, No Euros.
I would be pleased if every player of ours played International football. |
Should they ban International football? No, but they could halve the number of fixtures quite easily. Qualifiers and tournament games only. No friendlies, no "Nations League".
No player should get anywhere near 100 International appearances. FIFA and UEFA have profited from the clubs expensive recruitment and training of players for long enough. | |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:23 - Sep 26 with 1584 views | Dr_Winston |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:09 - Sep 26 by Whiterockin |
Cooper seems a better player with more confidence since his international game. |
He's played twice? since then. Both times against teams who have suited him. | |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:42 - Sep 26 with 1566 views | builthjack |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:23 - Sep 26 by Dr_Winston |
Should they ban International football? No, but they could halve the number of fixtures quite easily. Qualifiers and tournament games only. No friendlies, no "Nations League".
No player should get anywhere near 100 International appearances. FIFA and UEFA have profited from the clubs expensive recruitment and training of players for long enough. |
10 games a year. Nations League is competitive. Keep it going.
Agree about friendlies, but they are there to blood the youngsters.
I guess you are either passionate about your country or you are not. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:46 - Sep 26 with 1558 views | Dr_Winston |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:42 - Sep 26 by builthjack |
10 games a year. Nations League is competitive. Keep it going.
Agree about friendlies, but they are there to blood the youngsters.
I guess you are either passionate about your country or you are not. |
Nations League games are friendlies.
I'm passionate about my club. The national teams come a distant second. I'd happily see Wales lose 10-0 every game if it benefited the Swans. | |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:52 - Sep 26 with 1528 views | builthjack |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:46 - Sep 26 by Dr_Winston |
Nations League games are friendlies.
I'm passionate about my club. The national teams come a distant second. I'd happily see Wales lose 10-0 every game if it benefited the Swans. |
Nations League games are not friendlies.
The second paragraph is plain daft. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:55 - Sep 26 with 1528 views | Dr_Winston |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:52 - Sep 26 by builthjack |
Nations League games are not friendlies.
The second paragraph is plain daft. |
Yes they are.
Couldn't care less what you think. Come crying the next time a Swans player is unavailable because he got injured earning FIFA/UEFA money, | |
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:57 - Sep 26 with 1513 views | builthjack |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:55 - Sep 26 by Dr_Winston |
Yes they are.
Couldn't care less what you think. Come crying the next time a Swans player is unavailable because he got injured earning FIFA/UEFA money, |
No they are not.
Well it would hardly benefit Swansea if Wales lost 10-0. So a ridiculous statement to make.
I don’t cry. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Allen back in Wales contention? on 23:06 - Sep 26 with 1511 views | Dr_Winston |
| Allen back in Wales contention? on 22:57 - Sep 26 by builthjack |
No they are not.
Well it would hardly benefit Swansea if Wales lost 10-0. So a ridiculous statement to make.
I don’t cry. |
It would make absolutely no difference in any way, shape or form to Swansea City if Wales lost 10-0. Only five players (out of 27) of the current first team squad are Welsh. Ten are English. Eleven if you count Vigouroux.
What would benefit the Swans is if many of their players weren't dragged off multiple times mid season to play games that have no value to us for organisations that don't pay for the privilege. | |
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