| Nigel Farage 15:28 - May 28 with 24123 views | union_jack |
Nigel seems to be voicing the opinions of the silent majority of this country. Yes?
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:50 - Jun 25 with 1489 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 18:31 - Jun 25 by Wingstandwood |
I ponder if denied entry on French border is there another way to get into the U.K? Hopefully not! Too many nautical miles?
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The Belgian borders only a few short miles from Dunkirk. It would add a bit of distance to the journey but they could still land in the Margate area. |  |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 21:13 - Jun 25 with 1461 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:50 - Jun 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The Belgian borders only a few short miles from Dunkirk. It would add a bit of distance to the journey but they could still land in the Margate area. |
There is no chance whatsoever of stopping migrants getting in to France. The border is very long and over many countries.
It's ok though Reform have said they'll just turn the boats back to France. That can't work even now, under Macron.
On LBC this morning when pushed my Nick Ferrari on the fact that France won't take them, the Reform deputy leaders solution was "we'll have it out with the French". Genuinely, his exact words.
How do our Reform voters think that'll go, now and with a Le Pen government? |  | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:05 - Jun 25 with 1411 views | Flashberryjack |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 21:13 - Jun 25 by Scotia |
There is no chance whatsoever of stopping migrants getting in to France. The border is very long and over many countries.
It's ok though Reform have said they'll just turn the boats back to France. That can't work even now, under Macron.
On LBC this morning when pushed my Nick Ferrari on the fact that France won't take them, the Reform deputy leaders solution was "we'll have it out with the French". Genuinely, his exact words.
How do our Reform voters think that'll go, now and with a Le Pen government? |
Starmer will smash the people smuggling gangs, problem solved. |  |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:06 - Jun 25 with 1409 views | majorraglan |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 21:13 - Jun 25 by Scotia |
There is no chance whatsoever of stopping migrants getting in to France. The border is very long and over many countries.
It's ok though Reform have said they'll just turn the boats back to France. That can't work even now, under Macron.
On LBC this morning when pushed my Nick Ferrari on the fact that France won't take them, the Reform deputy leaders solution was "we'll have it out with the French". Genuinely, his exact words.
How do our Reform voters think that'll go, now and with a Le Pen government? |
Freedom of movement is a fundamental right across the EU, I don’t envisage anyway that borders will be restored and barriers erected to prevent the migrants congregating in Calais - over and above that there’s too much money at stake and the gangsters behind the smuggling won’t be easily dissuaded.
People are very naive if they think Reform will be able to push the migrants back to France, [Post edited 25 Jun 22:08]
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:09 - Jun 25 with 1390 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:05 - Jun 25 by Flashberryjack |
Starmer will smash the people smuggling gangs, problem solved. |
You didn't strike me as a Labour voter.
But it sounds like a better plan than relying on France to protect their thousand mile (plus) border and then gladly take back anyone who manages to leave. | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 08:33 - Jun 26 with 1296 views | AnotherJohn |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:09 - Jun 25 by Scotia |
You didn't strike me as a Labour voter.
But it sounds like a better plan than relying on France to protect their thousand mile (plus) border and then gladly take back anyone who manages to leave. |
I genuinely don't understand how smashing the gangs is supposed to work, compared with what is already happening. I thought the theory coming from Labour strategists was that we would indeed lever some improvements in what happens now precisely through better cooperation with the French, as well as certain countries on the migrant and rubber boat supply routes, such as Germany and Turkey. Many of the gangs appear to have strong Kurdish connections so what could be achieved on our own territory seems quite limited. Regarding access to the channel, France appears to be the country that could do more, and we have already thrown many times the money spent on Rwanda their way. Belgium could have been a problem, but it is reported that police there are prepared to stop boats and people in the water, in the contrast to the rule the French use as their get out clause, when police stand on beaches watching migrants queue in shallow water. | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:01 - Jun 26 with 1221 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:09 - Jun 25 by Scotia |
You didn't strike me as a Labour voter.
But it sounds like a better plan than relying on France to protect their thousand mile (plus) border and then gladly take back anyone who manages to leave. |
Countries protected their thousands of miles long border for hundreds of years. Try smuggling yourself into Australia, Russia or China illegally and see how long you’re there before you’re booted out. | |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:27 - Jun 26 with 1211 views | Boundy |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 22:05 - Jun 25 by Flashberryjack |
Starmer will smash the people smuggling gangs, problem solved. |
Couldn't smash a hard boiled egg so I wouldn't hold your breath . | |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:45 - Jun 26 with 1188 views | controversial_jack |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:01 - Jun 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Countries protected their thousands of miles long border for hundreds of years. Try smuggling yourself into Australia, Russia or China illegally and see how long you’re there before you’re booted out. |
Russia has 819,000 illegals. Australia is geographically difficult to get to. China has thousands, but sends them back to N Korea, something we can't do as the French rightly don't want them either | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:51 - Jun 26 with 1186 views | Boundy |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:45 - Jun 26 by controversial_jack |
Russia has 819,000 illegals. Australia is geographically difficult to get to. China has thousands, but sends them back to N Korea, something we can't do as the French rightly don't want them either |
"Russia has 819,000 illegals" you're right in as much their called children and adults abducted during putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine .The numbers are smaller but significant to their families | |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 17:22 - Jun 26 with 1070 views | onehunglow |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 08:33 - Jun 26 by AnotherJohn |
I genuinely don't understand how smashing the gangs is supposed to work, compared with what is already happening. I thought the theory coming from Labour strategists was that we would indeed lever some improvements in what happens now precisely through better cooperation with the French, as well as certain countries on the migrant and rubber boat supply routes, such as Germany and Turkey. Many of the gangs appear to have strong Kurdish connections so what could be achieved on our own territory seems quite limited. Regarding access to the channel, France appears to be the country that could do more, and we have already thrown many times the money spent on Rwanda their way. Belgium could have been a problem, but it is reported that police there are prepared to stop boats and people in the water, in the contrast to the rule the French use as their get out clause, when police stand on beaches watching migrants queue in shallow water. |
My opinion is that we have made our country an attractive proposition . That is why we have this problems .
I can think of countries that they could apply for without the perils of channel crossings by dinghy
Our climate is vile ,we are overcrowded yet we are a big draw.
Starmer will make no difference
His erstwhile barrister chums make good money out of them
Labour is and never will be a party to protect our shores | |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:01 - Jun 26 with 1023 views | controversial_jack |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 13:51 - Jun 26 by Boundy |
"Russia has 819,000 illegals" you're right in as much their called children and adults abducted during putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine .The numbers are smaller but significant to their families |
Wrong!
According to Interior Ministry data, more than 332,000 illegal migrants from Uzbekistan currently reside in Russia, along with 247,000 from Tajikistan, 152,000 from Ukraine, 120,000 from Azerbaijan, 115,000 from Kyrgyzstan, 61,000 from Armenia, 56,000 from Moldova and 49,000 from Kazakhstan. | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:04 - Jun 26 with 1018 views | controversial_jack |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 17:22 - Jun 26 by onehunglow |
My opinion is that we have made our country an attractive proposition . That is why we have this problems .
I can think of countries that they could apply for without the perils of channel crossings by dinghy
Our climate is vile ,we are overcrowded yet we are a big draw.
Starmer will make no difference
His erstwhile barrister chums make good money out of them
Labour is and never will be a party to protect our shores |
It's not a particularly attractive country to come to. Our welfare/ benefit system is inferior to many European countries, and this is reflected in the relatively small numbers that come here compared to many other countries | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:50 - Jun 26 with 969 views | Boundy |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:01 - Jun 26 by controversial_jack |
Wrong!
According to Interior Ministry data, more than 332,000 illegal migrants from Uzbekistan currently reside in Russia, along with 247,000 from Tajikistan, 152,000 from Ukraine, 120,000 from Azerbaijan, 115,000 from Kyrgyzstan, 61,000 from Armenia, 56,000 from Moldova and 49,000 from Kazakhstan. |
Naughty boy had his wrist slapped I see. Just wondering f you'd make the same comment to me face to face.
No need to answer as I already know. | |
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| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 23:31 - Jun 26 with 903 views | controversial_jack |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:50 - Jun 26 by Boundy |
Naughty boy had his wrist slapped I see. Just wondering f you'd make the same comment to me face to face.
No need to answer as I already know. |
Now now, is that a tacit reference to violence tut tut.I wonder if the moderators will see this.
Would i say it to your face? Maybe! | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 06:01 - Jun 27 with 858 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 20:04 - Jun 26 by controversial_jack |
It's not a particularly attractive country to come to. Our welfare/ benefit system is inferior to many European countries, and this is reflected in the relatively small numbers that come here compared to many other countries |
But it is a very easy country to get employment either legally or illegally.
You don't see the proliferation of cash only accepting car wash, take aways and barbers elsewhere in Europe. We're overrun with Uber drivers and delivery cyclists too. All these are easy to work for in the grey labour market.
Before you consider out right illegal "work".
Most migrants aren't here for benefits. | | | |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 09:21 - Jun 27 with 818 views | controversial_jack |
| Nigel Farage (n/t) on 06:01 - Jun 27 by Scotia |
But it is a very easy country to get employment either legally or illegally.
You don't see the proliferation of cash only accepting car wash, take aways and barbers elsewhere in Europe. We're overrun with Uber drivers and delivery cyclists too. All these are easy to work for in the grey labour market.
Before you consider out right illegal "work".
Most migrants aren't here for benefits. |
I agree they are not here for the benefits, they want to work. I don't know much about the black economy, but they would be on cash in hand and probably not a lot of it either. Accommodation would be expensive, and they can't register for the NHS, schools etc if they are illegal.They must be quite desperate to come here imo | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 08:03 - Jun 28 with 702 views | Dr_Winston |
Labour perhaps a bit worried about that the fact that they also selected a racist to compete in that consituency.
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| Nigel Farage on 08:43 - Jun 28 with 682 views | Boundy |
| Nigel Farage on 08:03 - Jun 28 by Dr_Winston |
Labour perhaps a bit worried about that the fact that they also selected a racist to compete in that consituency.
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These elections , as always , brings out the worst in people .Racism isn't a one way street I'm afraid . | |
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| Nigel Farage on 09:26 - Jun 28 with 669 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage on 08:03 - Jun 28 by Dr_Winston |
Labour perhaps a bit worried about that the fact that they also selected a racist to compete in that consituency.
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So have Reform to be fair. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 11:07 - Jun 28 with 645 views | Dr_Winston |
| Nigel Farage on 09:26 - Jun 28 by Scotia |
So have Reform to be fair. |
Hence the use of "also" in the initial post. | |
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| Nigel Farage on 12:02 - Jun 28 with 593 views | controversial_jack |
They are being exposed for what they really are | | | |
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