| We need Chair back 20:58 - Mar 18 with 7663 views | queensparker |
That is all.
This is half the team without him |  | | |  |
| We need Chair back on 11:31 - Mar 19 with 1948 views | Ned_Kennedys |
Chair’s return is very important to our chances of survival and whether we like it or not so is the return of some of the ‘first choice’ back four of Balogun, JCS, Laird and Paal. Current defence is League One standard and it shows. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 11:39 - Mar 19 with 1897 views | BushRanger82 |
We have been just as shite with him, as we are without him.
Was one of those who played at Fleetwood in the cup.
Can we play you every week, and, championship you're having a laugh, just two of the shameful chants aimed at our supporters there that day, and that was with Chair playing.
Comfy Chair, more like. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 11:46 - Mar 19 with 1882 views | traininvain |
| We need Chair back on 11:39 - Mar 19 by BushRanger82 |
We have been just as shite with him, as we are without him.
Was one of those who played at Fleetwood in the cup.
Can we play you every week, and, championship you're having a laugh, just two of the shameful chants aimed at our supporters there that day, and that was with Chair playing.
Comfy Chair, more like. |
The difference is that Chair was a key part of the reason we were top of the league earlier in the season and top six much of last season. Can’t say the same about the replacements.
It wouldn’t solve all our problems getting Chair back in the team but it’d certainly improve our chances of getting the necessary points on the board to avoid relegation. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 13:34 - Mar 19 with 1753 views | kensalriser |
Digging out not only one of our best players but also the player in the squad who always gives it everything he's got.
People are losing their minds. |  |
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| We need Chair back on 13:40 - Mar 19 with 1746 views | Westy75 |
| We need Chair back on 13:34 - Mar 19 by kensalriser |
Digging out not only one of our best players but also the player in the squad who always gives it everything he's got.
People are losing their minds. |
Indeed. Yesterday’s game was crying out for his creativity and drive. Would have got us the draw at least. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 14:02 - Mar 19 with 1717 views | terryb |
| We need Chair back on 11:21 - Mar 19 by R_from_afar |
I’m not being deliberately contrary, I honestly feel we would at least vary the way we play if he and - gasp - Willock were available.
I believe the reliance on playing it long is largely down to the fact that without those two, we are sorely lacking in players who can open teams up by passing on the deck and/ or dribbling.
Call me deluded but I truly believe that Ainsworth adjusts his approach based on the strengths of the players he has available. |
We will find out & I hope you're correct. However, the players that played yesterday are not suited to playing the style that was on offer.
I'm inclined to agree with my friend Beth who stated "Not even good enogh to play hoof ball"! [Post edited 19 Mar 2023 14:09]
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| We need Chair back on 14:19 - Mar 19 with 1661 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| We need Chair back on 11:31 - Mar 19 by Ned_Kennedys |
Chair’s return is very important to our chances of survival and whether we like it or not so is the return of some of the ‘first choice’ back four of Balogun, JCS, Laird and Paal. Current defence is League One standard and it shows. |
Indeed. You can also add Willock to the mix as he dovetails nicely with Illias. Chair alone will not get the job done. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 15:13 - Mar 19 with 1610 views | 1JD |
| We need Chair back on 11:21 - Mar 19 by R_from_afar |
I’m not being deliberately contrary, I honestly feel we would at least vary the way we play if he and - gasp - Willock were available.
I believe the reliance on playing it long is largely down to the fact that without those two, we are sorely lacking in players who can open teams up by passing on the deck and/ or dribbling.
Call me deluded but I truly believe that Ainsworth adjusts his approach based on the strengths of the players he has available. |
The thing is there is no evidence to support the idea that Ainsworth changes his style dependent on players available. He spent 10 years at Wycombe with this “style” - and he is already on record here that he won’t be changing his beliefs or philosophies.
When you also add in the fact he has no experience of coaching another style of play - none - what reason is there to believe that should he want to change it ( he doesn’t ), he actually has the coaching ability and experience to do so? | | | |
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| We need Chair back on 15:23 - Mar 19 with 1590 views | R_from_afar |
| We need Chair back on 15:13 - Mar 19 by 1JD |
The thing is there is no evidence to support the idea that Ainsworth changes his style dependent on players available. He spent 10 years at Wycombe with this “style” - and he is already on record here that he won’t be changing his beliefs or philosophies.
When you also add in the fact he has no experience of coaching another style of play - none - what reason is there to believe that should he want to change it ( he doesn’t ), he actually has the coaching ability and experience to do so? |
Sorry, but I don’t agree with you and I have watched a lot of Wycombe’s games. Scott Kashket is a young, quick striker who played 105 games for Ainsworth’s Wycombe, scoring 22 times. He’s five feet nine. |  |
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| We need Chair back on 15:25 - Mar 19 with 1573 views | OldPedro |
| We need Chair back on 15:13 - Mar 19 by 1JD |
The thing is there is no evidence to support the idea that Ainsworth changes his style dependent on players available. He spent 10 years at Wycombe with this “style” - and he is already on record here that he won’t be changing his beliefs or philosophies.
When you also add in the fact he has no experience of coaching another style of play - none - what reason is there to believe that should he want to change it ( he doesn’t ), he actually has the coaching ability and experience to do so? |
Didn't Eze do really well on loan at Wycombe under Ainsworth - sure that he wouldn't have done well if they had been bypassing the midfield while he was there. |  |
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| We need Chair back on 15:31 - Mar 19 with 1564 views | 1JD |
| We need Chair back on 15:23 - Mar 19 by R_from_afar |
Sorry, but I don’t agree with you and I have watched a lot of Wycombe’s games. Scott Kashket is a young, quick striker who played 105 games for Ainsworth’s Wycombe, scoring 22 times. He’s five feet nine. |
You didn’t really answer the question I asked though, what reason is there to believe he can coach a different style?
Wycombe is my local club - I’ve been 7 times per season on average for several seasons. They have always been a long ball, direct team, and on many an occasions the fans were well and truly fed up with it. The only reason it worked and was accepted by the fans is because overall they did well. That is not proving the case at QPR. You play this style, you have to win, otherwise you lose the fans and dressing room very quickly.
As far as I can see, there is a squad-manager mismatch, and nothing makes sense. Ainsworths lack of tactical nous and in game management is already showing, and yesterday was the most unwatchable “football” I’ve seen in my 25 years. Far worse than anything served up under Critchley. We’ve gone from bad to worse - something I didn’t think was possible. | | | |
| We need Chair back on 15:35 - Mar 19 with 1545 views | davman |
| We need Chair back on 10:12 - Mar 19 by 00calben |
IMO Chair is a good championship player - nothing more, nothing less.
That makes him a significant upgrade on what we have in the team atm. |
I know that is the view of many on here, but you put him with better players, he will shine brightly.
He is the heartbeat of this team, head and shoulders above all our forward players and also gets through so much work.
I really think it is a shame that he is under appreciated. Wonderful player, put him in a good championship team and then decide if he is more than a good Championship player. |  |
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| We need Chair back on 15:37 - Mar 19 with 1539 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| We need Chair back on 15:31 - Mar 19 by 1JD |
You didn’t really answer the question I asked though, what reason is there to believe he can coach a different style?
Wycombe is my local club - I’ve been 7 times per season on average for several seasons. They have always been a long ball, direct team, and on many an occasions the fans were well and truly fed up with it. The only reason it worked and was accepted by the fans is because overall they did well. That is not proving the case at QPR. You play this style, you have to win, otherwise you lose the fans and dressing room very quickly.
As far as I can see, there is a squad-manager mismatch, and nothing makes sense. Ainsworths lack of tactical nous and in game management is already showing, and yesterday was the most unwatchable “football” I’ve seen in my 25 years. Far worse than anything served up under Critchley. We’ve gone from bad to worse - something I didn’t think was possible. |
Yesterday was probably not even in the top 6 worst performances of the season, mores the pity. | | | |
| We need Chair back on 15:42 - Mar 19 with 1528 views | 1JD |
| We need Chair back on 15:37 - Mar 19 by Ned_Kennedys |
Yesterday was probably not even in the top 6 worst performances of the season, mores the pity. |
I didn’t say it was worst performance - it wasn’t - I said it was the most unwatchable. More Rugby-style than football. | | | |
| We need Chair back on 15:56 - Mar 19 with 1493 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| We need Chair back on 15:42 - Mar 19 by 1JD |
I didn’t say it was worst performance - it wasn’t - I said it was the most unwatchable. More Rugby-style than football. |
Better than watching the defenders pass it incessantly between themselves before losing possession anyway in my opinion. Without Chair or Willock yesterday’s tactics were understandable. | | | |
| We need Chair back on 16:00 - Mar 19 with 1479 views | ManinBlack |
I suspect I am in the minority here but my opinion of Chair is that he plays very well before major tournaments to get himself in the Morocco squad. However, when he gets back from the tournaments he appears to me, to be half the player, as if he doesn't need to play to a higher level anymore as no tournament around the corner.
Last season when Chair came back from AfCon I felt he was below par and we fell away badly. This season he played well but after the World Cup I again felt he wasn't the same player. Once again we have collapsed but even more seriously than last season.
As pointed out earlier, Chair played in the Fleetwood debacle. A player of his ability should be taking the game by the scruff of the neck against league 1 opponents. To my mind he didn't and was as culpable as the rest of the team.
If Chair returns he needs to get back to his August to October form and we could do with more goals from him as our strikers rarely score. When Willock returned from injury he was a pale shadow of the player in the early months of the season. We cannot afford Chair to come back from his knock and be as mentally shot as Willock was. Also we can't put all the pressure on Chair to deliver as we need more than one player to get us over the line. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 16:09 - Mar 19 with 1431 views | Andybrat |
| We need Chair back on 16:00 - Mar 19 by ManinBlack |
I suspect I am in the minority here but my opinion of Chair is that he plays very well before major tournaments to get himself in the Morocco squad. However, when he gets back from the tournaments he appears to me, to be half the player, as if he doesn't need to play to a higher level anymore as no tournament around the corner.
Last season when Chair came back from AfCon I felt he was below par and we fell away badly. This season he played well but after the World Cup I again felt he wasn't the same player. Once again we have collapsed but even more seriously than last season.
As pointed out earlier, Chair played in the Fleetwood debacle. A player of his ability should be taking the game by the scruff of the neck against league 1 opponents. To my mind he didn't and was as culpable as the rest of the team.
If Chair returns he needs to get back to his August to October form and we could do with more goals from him as our strikers rarely score. When Willock returned from injury he was a pale shadow of the player in the early months of the season. We cannot afford Chair to come back from his knock and be as mentally shot as Willock was. Also we can't put all the pressure on Chair to deliver as we need more than one player to get us over the line. |
We need him back it is obvious and GA will play to his strengths. You know having Martin and Dykes ahead of him ( instead of just one) has got to generate more space for him which has to benefit the team. I was there yesterday and have to say Lowe was so disappointing, if he is a Premier League player, Ilias definitely is. You can never argue he doesn’t give 100% which puts him in my starting 11 every time. Saying that I have only been to home games this season and believe it or not missed Watford. Liked Drewe yesterday as well. | | | |
| We need Chair back on 16:23 - Mar 19 with 1391 views | Esox_Lucius |
The effort put in by Dykes since he returned after hospitalisation from pneumonia puts Lowe to shame. |  |
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| We need Chair back on 17:29 - Mar 19 with 1326 views | TacticalR |
Of course we need Chair back, although as R_from_afar pointed out, he is better when he has a player on his wavelength, such as Willock or Eze, to play off. |  |
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| We need Chair back on 19:31 - Mar 19 with 1243 views | themodfather |
if he comes back he cant do much as the ball will be hovering in the stratosphere and he will injure his neck looking up! | | | |
| We need Chair back on 19:40 - Mar 19 with 1220 views | kernowhoop |
| We need Chair back on 19:31 - Mar 19 by themodfather |
if he comes back he cant do much as the ball will be hovering in the stratosphere and he will injure his neck looking up! |
I do not pretend to know what the answer is, but, we need to find an effective compromise between the tipp-tappy possession game and the embarrassing hoofball. I posted elsewhere about 'getting the ball forward' and pointed to the way that Sheffield United and Blackburn did it (a superb cup tie). Can we learn anything from that, or, are we now beyond it? | | | |
| We need Chair back on 21:29 - Mar 19 with 1104 views | PunteR |
| We need Chair back on 00:19 - Mar 19 by traininvain |
It’s all relative. Put it this way, we’re a much better side with Chair in the team and far more likely to stay up with him fully fit in the side. Could’ve done with him today. |
Yeh it is all relative and that's kind of my point. We're calling for a player who was part of plenty of games lost. He hasn't been that great , he's got lots of negative aspects to his game which frustrates not only fans but his own team mates. He doesn't pass, he drops his head way to quickly and doesn't bring the best out of his team mates apart from Willock. He has loads of skill and works his socks off but I honestly don't think he's the one to suddenly turn this team around. With Willock on the pitch, Paal and Laird we might have something.. Taraabt MK2 he isnt. Unfortunately. [Post edited 19 Mar 2023 21:29]
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| We need Chair back on 22:01 - Mar 19 with 1055 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Chair will be played out wide when he’s back I reckon. |  | | |
| We need Chair back on 08:29 - Mar 20 with 905 views | traininvain |
| We need Chair back on 21:29 - Mar 19 by PunteR |
Yeh it is all relative and that's kind of my point. We're calling for a player who was part of plenty of games lost. He hasn't been that great , he's got lots of negative aspects to his game which frustrates not only fans but his own team mates. He doesn't pass, he drops his head way to quickly and doesn't bring the best out of his team mates apart from Willock. He has loads of skill and works his socks off but I honestly don't think he's the one to suddenly turn this team around. With Willock on the pitch, Paal and Laird we might have something.. Taraabt MK2 he isnt. Unfortunately. [Post edited 19 Mar 2023 21:29]
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Ok let’s look at this another way, if Chair’s fit would you start him and if not who would you have in the team ahead of him?
He’s not going to solve all our problems but imo we’ve got a better chance with him in the team than without. And those chances naturally improve even more if Willock, Laird, Paal etc can somehow get fit. | | | |
| We need Chair back on 08:48 - Mar 20 with 1286 views | gazza1 |
There were lots moaning about Chair.......now we see what we are missing.
He is a good lad, works hard, wants it, skills, good attitude, and a big asset......he no top premiership player and maybe not even premiership quality most of the time but he is good for us and people need to understand that and stop complaining. Our best forward thinking player by far. | | | |
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