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We know they are coming in 2024. (on trial) Oxford in particular. Cities will be divided into zones confining residents to remain in their zones. You will be allowed 100 days per year to leave your zone. In order to leave you will need to get permission from the council. Cars will be registered and travel will then be tracked by smart cameras some of which were rolled out throughout covid lockdowns.
Is this something that appeals to you? Will you comply?
It's a NO from me
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Climate Lockdowns on 12:44 - Jan 16 with 747 views
To me it's the Supermarkets that are the problem. They have ruined small, local shops and put many out of business, starting with the butchers and grocers. These days they are busy cutting jobs too, using technology to replace humans, we all see the automated tills.
Then there's the food, much of it wrapped in plastic andnowhere nearas fresh as I'd like. So much of it kept in refrigerated containers on its journey here. Food produced locally would be much more sustainable, as indeed it used to be. We have always imported food but nowhere near the percentages we import today.
Then transport, because there were many local jobs people didn't travel so far, obviously. In a lot of cases people could walk to work. When I was 22 I didnt own a car, I walked to work which took 2/3 minutes. To watch the Swans I caught a bus, I wouldnt have driven anyway because I liked a beer. I could buy most of what I needed locally, for the rest it was 20 minute bus ride into Swansea which isially meant a bit of planning ahead and only a few such trips per year.
Some younger people think this is an impossible dream, it culd never happen but why not because it used to be normal, it used to be how we lived before globalisation, before massive profit guzzling corporations; It used to be the way and people often say it was better and we were happier. We certainly didn't have some of the health problems we see today. Obesity wasn't such a large problem (no pun intended) and we didn't have so much asthma and I could easily be wrong but I don't remember or didnt notice conditions like food allergies, ADHD and other conditions being so prevalent.
We are all to blame Cat, when i think back my Mam didnt work so did the daily shop and cooking etc. When i got married both of us worked so a supermarket was efficient. Little did i realise that to get a decent steak/meat or any form of bread decent veg etc is unusual or costs an absolute fortune.
As for the plastic dont get me started. bring back the ash tips anyday much cleaner surely., with the ammount of dual fuel stoves around here we will have too soon.
Not sure about transport i have mostly travelled for work, and during the 70's no public transport was reliable by my recollection.
The thing is i will not be lockdowned ever again.
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Climate Lockdowns on 14:46 - Jan 16 with 686 views
They are her cash cow. Don't you think that's a bit suspicious?
Of course you can just look at what she claims. It's wrong too.
This is generally where the debate goes to, a scientist funded by the oil industry making assertions that aren't based on evidence.
As usual character assassination to negate the information that you don't like. If you actually knew anything about Judith Curry you would know that she started out as a proponent of AGW. I first had discussions about AGW with Judith on the WUWT web site many years ago and at that time she fully endorsed AGW. In fact she was a contributor to the IPCC AR4 report. But with more exposure to the alternative science available she has become more questioning of the IPCC Science, especially as so many contributors to the AR4 report realised that the executive summary did not refelrct their reports. So here is J Curry's CV, if you think some brainwashed autistic girl knows more about Climater Science it explains a lot about your attitude to the subject. Education 1982 Ph.D. The University of Chicago, Geophysical Sciences 1974 B.S. cum laude Northern Illinois University, Geography Professional Experience 2006-Ââ€present President, Climate Forecast Applications Network, LLC 2017-Ââ€present Professor Emeritus, Georgia Institute of Technology 2002-Ââ€2016 Professor, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Georgia Institute of Technology 2002-Ââ€2014 Chair, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Georgia Institute of Technology 1992-Ââ€2002 Professor, University of Colorado-Ââ€Boulder Department of Aerospace Engineering Sciences Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences Environmental Studies Program 1989-Ââ€1992 Associate Professor, Department of Meteorology, Penn State 1986-Ââ€1989 Assistant Professor, Dept of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Purdue Univ 1982-Ââ€1986 Assistant Scientist, Dept of Meteorology, University of Wisconsin-Ââ€Madison Awards/Honors 2011 Graetzinger Moving School Forward Award, Georgia Tech 2007 Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science 2006 Best Faculty Paper Award, Georgia Tech Sigma Xi 2004 Fellow, American Geophysical Union 2002 NASA Group Achievement Award for CAMEX-Ââ€4 2002 Green Faculty Award, University of Colorado 1997 Elected Councilor, American Meteorological Society 1995 Fellow, American Meteorological Society 1992 Henry G. Houghton Award, the American Meteorological Society 1988 Presidential Young I Recent Professional Activities World Meteorological Organization / International Council of Scientific Unions / International Ocean Commission / World Climate Research Programme - Global Energy and Water Experiment (GEWEX) Radiation Panel (1994-Ââ€2004) - GEWEX Cloud System Studies (GCSS) Science Steering Group (1998-Ââ€2004) - Chair, GCSS Working Group on Polar Clouds (1998-Ââ€2004) - Chair, GEWEX Radiation Panel SEAFLUX Project (1999-Ââ€2004) - Steering Committee, IGAC/SOLAS Air-Ââ€Ice Chemical Interactions (2003-Ââ€2006) - Science Steering Group, Arctic Climate System (ACSYS) Programme (1994-Ââ€2000) National Research Council — National Academies - Space Studies Board (2004-Ââ€2007) - Climate Research Committee (2003-Ââ€2006) - Panel: A Strategy to Mitigate the Impact of Sensor Descopes and De-manifests on the NPOESS and GOES-R Spacecraft (2007-2008) - Committee to review CCSP SAP 1.1 Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere: Steps for Understanding and Reconciling Differences (2007) U.S. Federal Agencies - DOE Biological & Environmental Research Advisory Committee (BERAC) (2012-Ââ€2015) - Earth Science Subcommittee, NASA Advisory Council (2009-Ââ€2013) - Search Committee, NSF Director for Geoscience (2007) - External Advisory Board, NCAR Atmospheric Technology Division (2004-Ââ€2006) - Science Board, DOE ARM Climate Reference Facility, (2008-Ââ€2011) - External Review Committee, COSIM Program, Los Alamos National Laboratory (2007) - NOAA Climate Working Group (2004-Ââ€2009) Professional Societies - Transformation Vision Committee, American Meteorological Society (2015-Ââ€present) - Executive Committee, American Physical Society Topical Group on Physics of Climate (2013-Ââ€2016) - Member, Fellows Committee, American Geophysical Union (2013-Ââ€2017) - Executive Committee of the Council, American Meteorological Society (1998-Ââ€2000) - Councilor, American Meteorological Society (1997-Ââ€2000) Other - Member, Visiting Committee, Dept of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Purdue Univ. (2008) - Member, Visiting Committee, Dept of Earth, Atmosphere and Planetary Sciences, the MIT Corporation (2009)
She has contributed to no less than 187 Climate study papers.
But of course none of it counts because she has been accused of being funded by the Oil Industry, except here is her funding. Research Grants and Contracts (last 10 years) - Probabilistic Subseasonal Weather Forecasts for the Energy and Agricultural Sectors. NOAA SBIR Phase I, II, $500K, 8/22/15 — 8/2/18. - Application of global weather and climate model output to the design and operation of wind energy systems. DOE STTR Phase II, $980K, 4/22/13 — 4/21/15. (PI) - Integrated analysis of atmospheric water cycle in intense marine storms. NASA, $189K 11/1/12-Ââ€10/31/14. (PI) - Application of global weather and climate model output to the design and operation of wind energy systems. DOE STTR Phase I, $150K, 2/19/11 — 11/19/11. (PI) - Climatology of African Easterly Waves. NOAA, 8/1/10 — 7/31/13, $240K (PI) - Impact of Marine and Dust Aerosols on Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Development. NSF, $349,901, 4/1/11-Ââ€3/31/14 (co-Ââ€PI). - Estimating the tropospheric BrO budgets from satellite measurements. NASA, $50K,1/ 12/11-Ââ€1/11/13 (PI) - Impact of storms on ocean surface turbulent fluxes, NOAA, 8/1/10 — 7/31/11, $100K, (PI) - Impact of Aerosols on the Arctic Hydrological Cycle. NASA, 06/01/07-05/31/10, $480,000 (co-PI). - Spatio-temporal Variability of Aerosol Load in the Tropics: Interaction with Precipitation and the Radiation Budget. NOAA, 5/01/08-4/30/11, $366,000 (co-PI) - Towards the Understanding and Parameterization of High Latitude Cloud and Radiation Processes. DOE ARM, 12/01/02-Ââ€11/30/08, $720,000 (PI) - Global analysis of ocean surface fluxes of heat and freshwater: satellite products, NWP analyses, and CMIP simulations. NASA, 10/1/05-Ââ€9/30/10, $1.4M (PI). - Parameterization of cloud particle activation and diffusional growth. NASA, 11/05-Ââ€10/08, $450,000. - UAV Systems Analysis for Earth Observations: Education and Outreach. NASA, 3/05-Ââ€3/08, $350,000 (PI) - Arctic Regional Climate Model Intercomparison Project: Evaluation and Interpretation Using Data Products from FIRE.ACE. NASA, 12/03-Ââ€12/07, $525,000. (PI)
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Climate Lockdowns on 15:19 - Jan 16 with 673 views
As usual character assassination to negate the information that you don't like. If you actually knew anything about Judith Curry you would know that she started out as a proponent of AGW. I first had discussions about AGW with Judith on the WUWT web site many years ago and at that time she fully endorsed AGW. In fact she was a contributor to the IPCC AR4 report. But with more exposure to the alternative science available she has become more questioning of the IPCC Science, especially as so many contributors to the AR4 report realised that the executive summary did not refelrct their reports. So here is J Curry's CV, if you think some brainwashed autistic girl knows more about Climater Science it explains a lot about your attitude to the subject. Education 1982 Ph.D. The University of Chicago, Geophysical Sciences 1974 B.S. cum laude Northern Illinois University, Geography Professional Experience 2006-Ââ€present President, Climate Forecast Applications Network, LLC 2017-Ââ€present Professor Emeritus, Georgia Institute of Technology 2002-Ââ€2016 Professor, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Georgia Institute of Technology 2002-Ââ€2014 Chair, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Georgia Institute of Technology 1992-Ââ€2002 Professor, University of Colorado-Ââ€Boulder Department of Aerospace Engineering Sciences Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences Environmental Studies Program 1989-Ââ€1992 Associate Professor, Department of Meteorology, Penn State 1986-Ââ€1989 Assistant Professor, Dept of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Purdue Univ 1982-Ââ€1986 Assistant Scientist, Dept of Meteorology, University of Wisconsin-Ââ€Madison Awards/Honors 2011 Graetzinger Moving School Forward Award, Georgia Tech 2007 Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science 2006 Best Faculty Paper Award, Georgia Tech Sigma Xi 2004 Fellow, American Geophysical Union 2002 NASA Group Achievement Award for CAMEX-Ââ€4 2002 Green Faculty Award, University of Colorado 1997 Elected Councilor, American Meteorological Society 1995 Fellow, American Meteorological Society 1992 Henry G. Houghton Award, the American Meteorological Society 1988 Presidential Young I Recent Professional Activities World Meteorological Organization / International Council of Scientific Unions / International Ocean Commission / World Climate Research Programme - Global Energy and Water Experiment (GEWEX) Radiation Panel (1994-Ââ€2004) - GEWEX Cloud System Studies (GCSS) Science Steering Group (1998-Ââ€2004) - Chair, GCSS Working Group on Polar Clouds (1998-Ââ€2004) - Chair, GEWEX Radiation Panel SEAFLUX Project (1999-Ââ€2004) - Steering Committee, IGAC/SOLAS Air-Ââ€Ice Chemical Interactions (2003-Ââ€2006) - Science Steering Group, Arctic Climate System (ACSYS) Programme (1994-Ââ€2000) National Research Council — National Academies - Space Studies Board (2004-Ââ€2007) - Climate Research Committee (2003-Ââ€2006) - Panel: A Strategy to Mitigate the Impact of Sensor Descopes and De-manifests on the NPOESS and GOES-R Spacecraft (2007-2008) - Committee to review CCSP SAP 1.1 Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere: Steps for Understanding and Reconciling Differences (2007) U.S. Federal Agencies - DOE Biological & Environmental Research Advisory Committee (BERAC) (2012-Ââ€2015) - Earth Science Subcommittee, NASA Advisory Council (2009-Ââ€2013) - Search Committee, NSF Director for Geoscience (2007) - External Advisory Board, NCAR Atmospheric Technology Division (2004-Ââ€2006) - Science Board, DOE ARM Climate Reference Facility, (2008-Ââ€2011) - External Review Committee, COSIM Program, Los Alamos National Laboratory (2007) - NOAA Climate Working Group (2004-Ââ€2009) Professional Societies - Transformation Vision Committee, American Meteorological Society (2015-Ââ€present) - Executive Committee, American Physical Society Topical Group on Physics of Climate (2013-Ââ€2016) - Member, Fellows Committee, American Geophysical Union (2013-Ââ€2017) - Executive Committee of the Council, American Meteorological Society (1998-Ââ€2000) - Councilor, American Meteorological Society (1997-Ââ€2000) Other - Member, Visiting Committee, Dept of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Purdue Univ. (2008) - Member, Visiting Committee, Dept of Earth, Atmosphere and Planetary Sciences, the MIT Corporation (2009)
She has contributed to no less than 187 Climate study papers.
But of course none of it counts because she has been accused of being funded by the Oil Industry, except here is her funding. Research Grants and Contracts (last 10 years) - Probabilistic Subseasonal Weather Forecasts for the Energy and Agricultural Sectors. NOAA SBIR Phase I, II, $500K, 8/22/15 — 8/2/18. - Application of global weather and climate model output to the design and operation of wind energy systems. DOE STTR Phase II, $980K, 4/22/13 — 4/21/15. (PI) - Integrated analysis of atmospheric water cycle in intense marine storms. NASA, $189K 11/1/12-Ââ€10/31/14. (PI) - Application of global weather and climate model output to the design and operation of wind energy systems. DOE STTR Phase I, $150K, 2/19/11 — 11/19/11. (PI) - Climatology of African Easterly Waves. NOAA, 8/1/10 — 7/31/13, $240K (PI) - Impact of Marine and Dust Aerosols on Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Development. NSF, $349,901, 4/1/11-Ââ€3/31/14 (co-Ââ€PI). - Estimating the tropospheric BrO budgets from satellite measurements. NASA, $50K,1/ 12/11-Ââ€1/11/13 (PI) - Impact of storms on ocean surface turbulent fluxes, NOAA, 8/1/10 — 7/31/11, $100K, (PI) - Impact of Aerosols on the Arctic Hydrological Cycle. NASA, 06/01/07-05/31/10, $480,000 (co-PI). - Spatio-temporal Variability of Aerosol Load in the Tropics: Interaction with Precipitation and the Radiation Budget. NOAA, 5/01/08-4/30/11, $366,000 (co-PI) - Towards the Understanding and Parameterization of High Latitude Cloud and Radiation Processes. DOE ARM, 12/01/02-Ââ€11/30/08, $720,000 (PI) - Global analysis of ocean surface fluxes of heat and freshwater: satellite products, NWP analyses, and CMIP simulations. NASA, 10/1/05-Ââ€9/30/10, $1.4M (PI). - Parameterization of cloud particle activation and diffusional growth. NASA, 11/05-Ââ€10/08, $450,000. - UAV Systems Analysis for Earth Observations: Education and Outreach. NASA, 3/05-Ââ€3/08, $350,000 (PI) - Arctic Regional Climate Model Intercomparison Project: Evaluation and Interpretation Using Data Products from FIRE.ACE. NASA, 12/03-Ââ€12/07, $525,000. (PI)
I've taken one example from your long list, in 20 of your own words explain its content and the context of this topic Spatio-temporal Variability of Aerosol Load in the Tropics: Interaction with Precipitation
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
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Climate Lockdowns on 16:29 - Jan 16 with 657 views
I've taken one example from your long list, in 20 of your own words explain its content and the context of this topic Spatio-temporal Variability of Aerosol Load in the Tropics: Interaction with Precipitation
Why?
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Climate Lockdowns on 16:44 - Jan 16 with 647 views
I still have a tendency towards climta e change being a ntaurla process that mankind is giving a little nudge to and that pollution and habitat destruction are more of a problem.
At every turn in modern times mankind has fought against and tried to control nature and it's a battle we cannot win. We need to work with nature, anything else is crazy.
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Climate Lockdowns on 17:41 - Jan 16 with 620 views
As usual character assassination to negate the information that you don't like. If you actually knew anything about Judith Curry you would know that she started out as a proponent of AGW. I first had discussions about AGW with Judith on the WUWT web site many years ago and at that time she fully endorsed AGW. In fact she was a contributor to the IPCC AR4 report. But with more exposure to the alternative science available she has become more questioning of the IPCC Science, especially as so many contributors to the AR4 report realised that the executive summary did not refelrct their reports. So here is J Curry's CV, if you think some brainwashed autistic girl knows more about Climater Science it explains a lot about your attitude to the subject. Education 1982 Ph.D. The University of Chicago, Geophysical Sciences 1974 B.S. cum laude Northern Illinois University, Geography Professional Experience 2006-Ââ€present President, Climate Forecast Applications Network, LLC 2017-Ââ€present Professor Emeritus, Georgia Institute of Technology 2002-Ââ€2016 Professor, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Georgia Institute of Technology 2002-Ââ€2014 Chair, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Georgia Institute of Technology 1992-Ââ€2002 Professor, University of Colorado-Ââ€Boulder Department of Aerospace Engineering Sciences Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences Environmental Studies Program 1989-Ââ€1992 Associate Professor, Department of Meteorology, Penn State 1986-Ââ€1989 Assistant Professor, Dept of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Purdue Univ 1982-Ââ€1986 Assistant Scientist, Dept of Meteorology, University of Wisconsin-Ââ€Madison Awards/Honors 2011 Graetzinger Moving School Forward Award, Georgia Tech 2007 Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science 2006 Best Faculty Paper Award, Georgia Tech Sigma Xi 2004 Fellow, American Geophysical Union 2002 NASA Group Achievement Award for CAMEX-Ââ€4 2002 Green Faculty Award, University of Colorado 1997 Elected Councilor, American Meteorological Society 1995 Fellow, American Meteorological Society 1992 Henry G. Houghton Award, the American Meteorological Society 1988 Presidential Young I Recent Professional Activities World Meteorological Organization / International Council of Scientific Unions / International Ocean Commission / World Climate Research Programme - Global Energy and Water Experiment (GEWEX) Radiation Panel (1994-Ââ€2004) - GEWEX Cloud System Studies (GCSS) Science Steering Group (1998-Ââ€2004) - Chair, GCSS Working Group on Polar Clouds (1998-Ââ€2004) - Chair, GEWEX Radiation Panel SEAFLUX Project (1999-Ââ€2004) - Steering Committee, IGAC/SOLAS Air-Ââ€Ice Chemical Interactions (2003-Ââ€2006) - Science Steering Group, Arctic Climate System (ACSYS) Programme (1994-Ââ€2000) National Research Council — National Academies - Space Studies Board (2004-Ââ€2007) - Climate Research Committee (2003-Ââ€2006) - Panel: A Strategy to Mitigate the Impact of Sensor Descopes and De-manifests on the NPOESS and GOES-R Spacecraft (2007-2008) - Committee to review CCSP SAP 1.1 Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere: Steps for Understanding and Reconciling Differences (2007) U.S. Federal Agencies - DOE Biological & Environmental Research Advisory Committee (BERAC) (2012-Ââ€2015) - Earth Science Subcommittee, NASA Advisory Council (2009-Ââ€2013) - Search Committee, NSF Director for Geoscience (2007) - External Advisory Board, NCAR Atmospheric Technology Division (2004-Ââ€2006) - Science Board, DOE ARM Climate Reference Facility, (2008-Ââ€2011) - External Review Committee, COSIM Program, Los Alamos National Laboratory (2007) - NOAA Climate Working Group (2004-Ââ€2009) Professional Societies - Transformation Vision Committee, American Meteorological Society (2015-Ââ€present) - Executive Committee, American Physical Society Topical Group on Physics of Climate (2013-Ââ€2016) - Member, Fellows Committee, American Geophysical Union (2013-Ââ€2017) - Executive Committee of the Council, American Meteorological Society (1998-Ââ€2000) - Councilor, American Meteorological Society (1997-Ââ€2000) Other - Member, Visiting Committee, Dept of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Purdue Univ. (2008) - Member, Visiting Committee, Dept of Earth, Atmosphere and Planetary Sciences, the MIT Corporation (2009)
She has contributed to no less than 187 Climate study papers.
But of course none of it counts because she has been accused of being funded by the Oil Industry, except here is her funding. Research Grants and Contracts (last 10 years) - Probabilistic Subseasonal Weather Forecasts for the Energy and Agricultural Sectors. NOAA SBIR Phase I, II, $500K, 8/22/15 — 8/2/18. - Application of global weather and climate model output to the design and operation of wind energy systems. DOE STTR Phase II, $980K, 4/22/13 — 4/21/15. (PI) - Integrated analysis of atmospheric water cycle in intense marine storms. NASA, $189K 11/1/12-Ââ€10/31/14. (PI) - Application of global weather and climate model output to the design and operation of wind energy systems. DOE STTR Phase I, $150K, 2/19/11 — 11/19/11. (PI) - Climatology of African Easterly Waves. NOAA, 8/1/10 — 7/31/13, $240K (PI) - Impact of Marine and Dust Aerosols on Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Development. NSF, $349,901, 4/1/11-Ââ€3/31/14 (co-Ââ€PI). - Estimating the tropospheric BrO budgets from satellite measurements. NASA, $50K,1/ 12/11-Ââ€1/11/13 (PI) - Impact of storms on ocean surface turbulent fluxes, NOAA, 8/1/10 — 7/31/11, $100K, (PI) - Impact of Aerosols on the Arctic Hydrological Cycle. NASA, 06/01/07-05/31/10, $480,000 (co-PI). - Spatio-temporal Variability of Aerosol Load in the Tropics: Interaction with Precipitation and the Radiation Budget. NOAA, 5/01/08-4/30/11, $366,000 (co-PI) - Towards the Understanding and Parameterization of High Latitude Cloud and Radiation Processes. DOE ARM, 12/01/02-Ââ€11/30/08, $720,000 (PI) - Global analysis of ocean surface fluxes of heat and freshwater: satellite products, NWP analyses, and CMIP simulations. NASA, 10/1/05-Ââ€9/30/10, $1.4M (PI). - Parameterization of cloud particle activation and diffusional growth. NASA, 11/05-Ââ€10/08, $450,000. - UAV Systems Analysis for Earth Observations: Education and Outreach. NASA, 3/05-Ââ€3/08, $350,000 (PI) - Arctic Regional Climate Model Intercomparison Project: Evaluation and Interpretation Using Data Products from FIRE.ACE. NASA, 12/03-Ââ€12/07, $525,000. (PI)
Thanks for the great post, but dont let the facts cloud the issue.
I still have a tendency towards climta e change being a ntaurla process that mankind is giving a little nudge to and that pollution and habitat destruction are more of a problem.
At every turn in modern times mankind has fought against and tried to control nature and it's a battle we cannot win. We need to work with nature, anything else is crazy.
Couldnt agree more.
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Climate Lockdowns on 17:53 - Jan 16 with 614 views
I still have a tendency towards climta e change being a ntaurla process that mankind is giving a little nudge to and that pollution and habitat destruction are more of a problem.
At every turn in modern times mankind has fought against and tried to control nature and it's a battle we cannot win. We need to work with nature, anything else is crazy.
What difference does it make to her credibility whether I understand it or not?
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Climate Lockdowns on 21:39 - Jan 16 with 579 views
What difference does it make to her credibility whether I understand it or not?
Well you don't understand climate change, that's been clear for years.
Judith Curry does have some credibility, there's no doubt about that. She's also got a tendency to make assertions that are either not evidenced or wrong.
My personal favourite is her critical support of the Wegman report which surprised a lot of people as it didn't make much sense, and the report was rubbish, when she was pulled up on it she was forced to admit that she hadn't even read it.
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