| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 12:44 - Jul 25 with 31920 views | NotLoyal |
It’s the first game of the season at a newly promoted side away from home. The likely outcome is obvious but we have to have some hope. A draw would be decent, these first games of the season away from home are no guide but can often end in defeat.
Away Fans Info
A decent place to meet is at the union club and the owner opens his front and back doors to away fans for all Rotherham United matches. Here are the details.
The Union Club, ( Transport Club )
Union Street,
Masbrough,
Rotherham S61 1AA
The owner Paul is on 07565853802 if you want to contact him to open up at a certain time. They sell a wide range of beers, cider and have a decent pub food menu. About a ten minute walk to the stadium.
Rotherham ‘Facts Explained ’
Gordon Banks is from Rotherham, he was a goalkeeper who only had one eye when he retired. Gordon in currently dead. Pocket Handkerchief Lane, now there’s a name to work with ? It’s a name of a lane in Rotherham. It is said that in this lane the Pocket Handkerchief was first conceived. Not literally. However we think that could be a load of bollocks. The Chuckle brothers are from Rotherham. Nowadays they are a singular act as one of them is also currently dead. Saxon and Jive Bunny are from the town, hard to work out I know. Especially when legend has it that Barnsley is where Saxon hail from. Even more difficult is Jive Bunny. They do come from Rotherham and often got themselves in a right pickle.
We know you won’t believe this but the first football was made out of cheese in Rotherham. It was made by a chap called Billy Miller. Billy was the cousin of another Rotherham great named William of Hague. Hence the nickname ‘The Millers’ That’s possibly enough true, startling and fun facts for now.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/58075/big-swansea-city-s
Rotherham United: Viktor Johansson, Wes Harding, Dan Barlaser, Richard Wood (captain), Ben Wiles, Chiedozie Ogbene, Conor Washington, Jamie Lindsay, Shane Ferguson, Grant Hall, Cam Humphreys.
Substitutes: Josh Vickers, Cohen Bramall, Jamie McCart, Georgie Kelly, Scott High, Hakeem Odoffin, Peter Kioso.
Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Nathan Wood, Kyle Naughton, Harry Darling; Joel Latibeaudiere, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Matty Sorinola; Joel Piroe, Jamie Paterson, Michael Obafemi.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Ben Cabango, Ollie Cooper, Olivier Ntcham, Liam Cullen, Cameron Congreve.
More to follow.
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:03 - Jul 30 with 2304 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 17:52 - Jul 30 by onehunglow |
To save me the trouble ,have a look at Cat's post underneath mine.#
If you are exonerating Fisher ,then I will end it here .
Results are down to the coach.
Who else coaches players to play the ball BACK to the halfway line when there is a good chance of a counter attack to win at the end of the game.
Who?
Why are we literally walking with the ball when chasing a win-assuming we want a win. |
What does fisher have to do with it? He had a solid enough game I thought.
The point is this. We created a chance that would be an easy tap in 99.9% of the time it was harder to miss. We created other good chances which were either missed or well saved. Does this indicate a problem with the coaching? Or the tactics? I’d be an awful lot more concerned if we weren’t creating any chances. But the result today was down to individual player errors, particularly from Obafemi who couldn’t control anything all day.
Their goal was a foul that would have been chalked off if VAR were in play and apart from the bicycle kick that was well saved we limited them to a few long shots/half chances. It’s frustrating to drop points but let’s not over react with this we are doomed stuff. |  |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:05 - Jul 30 with 2295 views | jasper_T |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 17:47 - Jul 30 by Catullus |
I do think this wingback thing is going to cause us trouble again this season. Martin says we may try a different formation, well where was it? When we were on the backfoot today it was more about the long ball than any great Rotherham play but we persisted with a formation that kept giving them chances and they are hardly a great side.
If we are to stick with it surely we need better players because the 2 today didnt show up well and Lati never looked good there last season!
Grimes again dropping too deep.
There are problems from last season that still need fixing so Martin needs to get a shft on or trouble will start to brew. |
Charlton demolished the new formation last week, so no surprise we reverted to the norm.
Same issues as last season. Exhausting triangles in our own half that break down without creating many chances and give teams the chance to counter. Piroe made enough chances to win the game on his own, unfortunately Obafemi brought his clogs. We're in big trouble if we lose Joel.
Darling looks a soft touch, but as long as the refs give him the benefit and he scores the occasional screamer we can live with that. Wood is the better defender for me so far. Both gave away cheap possession when asked to step into midfield, which of course they will they're not midfielders.
Sorinola isn't good enough. Can't beat a man or pick a cross. Maybe just needs time after not getting games in the Belgian pub league. Latibeaudiere never will be good enough in advanced positions, his attempt was almost as poor as Obafemi's but the offside flag saved his blushes. Bless him he tries but he's an undersized centre half not a winger.
Another embarrassing booking for Martin on the sideline. Grow up, young man. |  | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:05 - Jul 30 with 2297 views | CanveySwan |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 18:49 - Jul 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Just got back.
First of atmosphere was brilliant. Our fans never stopped singing, apart from just after their goal, they were really quiet. Really easy to park and their stewards are probably the most laid back I’ve seen.
First half, you could definitely see the improvement, it wasn’t just passing for the sake of it, we were cutting through them so easily and creating chances, as the half wore on, for some reason we were reluctant to shoot, though, in fairness , it’s hard to say if there was space, bearing in mind we were at the other end. Helluva shot from Darling, apart from their goal and one chance just after we were in control. I didn’t see any of the scary suicidal back passing from last season.
Second half, again we seemed to be trying to score the perfect goal as opposed to having a shot.
Had we not missed the sitter, we’d have won comfortably as Rotherham would’ve had to have come out and attack as opposed to having everyone behind the ball. Their keeper also had a cracking game, and saved a couple of beauties.
Overall, really enjoyed it, much better than last year, with Joe Allen to come back, who will make a big difference, plus, hopefully a couple more coming in, I’m really confident. If nothing else, I’m enjoying football again by a team, trying to play positively.
Bring on Blackpool |
First game of the season and we got a point. League isn’t won in August, sorry July 😂. Think we’ll do well this season, like the great Leroy Jethro Gibbs would say, I have a gut feeling. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:15 - Jul 30 with 2236 views | Sirjohnalot |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:05 - Jul 30 by CanveySwan |
First game of the season and we got a point. League isn’t won in August, sorry July 😂. Think we’ll do well this season, like the great Leroy Jethro Gibbs would say, I have a gut feeling. |
It’s an hour from home, had. Greggs, nice coffee, entertained by a game, but if not for a missed sitter, we’d have won and I got back to my wife handing me a curry she’d ordered. Can’t beat it. |  | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:15 - Jul 30 with 2236 views | KeithHaynes |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 18:35 - Jul 30 by onehunglow |
A what?
Sorry Keith.
Any chance that after a game ALL posters can stick to topic rather than slinging insults.
It is boring
Fisher was good today,which shows I really can be objective |
He was MOM.
Obafemi off the pace, not Martins fault.
He had the chances.
Fisher on the pace, a terrific change in his ability, he is obviously working hard.
Some say it’s because of the coach, some say it’s down to the players. Either way it’s only to suit a certain narrative. |  |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:25 - Jul 30 with 2187 views | magicdaps10 |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:05 - Jul 30 by jasper_T |
Charlton demolished the new formation last week, so no surprise we reverted to the norm.
Same issues as last season. Exhausting triangles in our own half that break down without creating many chances and give teams the chance to counter. Piroe made enough chances to win the game on his own, unfortunately Obafemi brought his clogs. We're in big trouble if we lose Joel.
Darling looks a soft touch, but as long as the refs give him the benefit and he scores the occasional screamer we can live with that. Wood is the better defender for me so far. Both gave away cheap possession when asked to step into midfield, which of course they will they're not midfielders.
Sorinola isn't good enough. Can't beat a man or pick a cross. Maybe just needs time after not getting games in the Belgian pub league. Latibeaudiere never will be good enough in advanced positions, his attempt was almost as poor as Obafemi's but the offside flag saved his blushes. Bless him he tries but he's an undersized centre half not a winger.
Another embarrassing booking for Martin on the sideline. Grow up, young man. |
I think personally that Martin was right to stand up and question the decision that ultimately got him the yellow card. The decision that was virtually right in front of him was an absolute disgrace.
I think it's harsh to say he needs to grow up, he could have reacted alot worse as the decision was so bad. |  |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:26 - Jul 30 with 2181 views | Fireboy2 |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 18:49 - Jul 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Just got back.
First of atmosphere was brilliant. Our fans never stopped singing, apart from just after their goal, they were really quiet. Really easy to park and their stewards are probably the most laid back I’ve seen.
First half, you could definitely see the improvement, it wasn’t just passing for the sake of it, we were cutting through them so easily and creating chances, as the half wore on, for some reason we were reluctant to shoot, though, in fairness , it’s hard to say if there was space, bearing in mind we were at the other end. Helluva shot from Darling, apart from their goal and one chance just after we were in control. I didn’t see any of the scary suicidal back passing from last season.
Second half, again we seemed to be trying to score the perfect goal as opposed to having a shot.
Had we not missed the sitter, we’d have won comfortably as Rotherham would’ve had to have come out and attack as opposed to having everyone behind the ball. Their keeper also had a cracking game, and saved a couple of beauties.
Overall, really enjoyed it, much better than last year, with Joe Allen to come back, who will make a big difference, plus, hopefully a couple more coming in, I’m really confident. If nothing else, I’m enjoying football again by a team, trying to play positively.
Bring on Blackpool |
Think i saw you at the game John, you were too far away though.
Really good atmosphere today from the 1500+ jacks.
We would have won if oba didn't have the touch of an elephant.
Is it only me that thought that lati had a good game, yes he isnt a wingback but he ran his blood to water, sorrinola had a decent game.
We definitely need another wingback with pace as we are one dimensional with no pace on the flanks and better teams will put us to the sword.
Overall I'm disappointed but at least we didn’t lose, onwards and upwards to the blackburn game. |  | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:30 - Jul 30 with 2163 views | magicdaps10 |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:15 - Jul 30 by KeithHaynes |
He was MOM.
Obafemi off the pace, not Martins fault.
He had the chances.
Fisher on the pace, a terrific change in his ability, he is obviously working hard.
Some say it’s because of the coach, some say it’s down to the players. Either way it’s only to suit a certain narrative. |
I don't think anyone can shift blame to Martin after that today. I think Darling and Wood brought a bit more steel to the back 3. I think there is a lot more calmness, speed, muscle and athleticism there and the wing backs seemed to be quicker getting back defensively and we were rarely exposed down the flanks.
Our issue today was the final 3rd, Obefami gad a shocker and the movement was terrible at times. | |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:32 - Jul 30 with 2146 views | magicdaps10 |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:26 - Jul 30 by Fireboy2 |
Think i saw you at the game John, you were too far away though.
Really good atmosphere today from the 1500+ jacks.
We would have won if oba didn't have the touch of an elephant.
Is it only me that thought that lati had a good game, yes he isnt a wingback but he ran his blood to water, sorrinola had a decent game.
We definitely need another wingback with pace as we are one dimensional with no pace on the flanks and better teams will put us to the sword.
Overall I'm disappointed but at least we didn’t lose, onwards and upwards to the blackburn game. |
Joel Lati didn't let himself down one bit today, he put an admirable performance in and he got up and down that right side for 90 minutes.
It just seems that some people are knocking the exact same things from last season..... I would say just a case to justify that they were correct. | |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:36 - Jul 30 with 2136 views | krunchykarrot |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:26 - Jul 30 by Fireboy2 |
Think i saw you at the game John, you were too far away though.
Really good atmosphere today from the 1500+ jacks.
We would have won if oba didn't have the touch of an elephant.
Is it only me that thought that lati had a good game, yes he isnt a wingback but he ran his blood to water, sorrinola had a decent game.
We definitely need another wingback with pace as we are one dimensional with no pace on the flanks and better teams will put us to the sword.
Overall I'm disappointed but at least we didn’t lose, onwards and upwards to the blackburn game. |
Lati does hos best but its obvious that he cannot play WB. Where is Rushesha is he worth looking at? We definitely need pace down the flanks, it was criminal how far Piroe dropped at times. And i keep asking what is Pato doing is he our playmaker? |  | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:13 - Jul 30 with 2043 views | Sirjohnalot |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:26 - Jul 30 by Fireboy2 |
Think i saw you at the game John, you were too far away though.
Really good atmosphere today from the 1500+ jacks.
We would have won if oba didn't have the touch of an elephant.
Is it only me that thought that lati had a good game, yes he isnt a wingback but he ran his blood to water, sorrinola had a decent game.
We definitely need another wingback with pace as we are one dimensional with no pace on the flanks and better teams will put us to the sword.
Overall I'm disappointed but at least we didn’t lose, onwards and upwards to the blackburn game. |
In a red and white and blue, kinda short sleeve checked shirt thing. Couldn’t believe that miss. Actually took a lot of skill not to score. 999/1000 he’d have scored that. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:20 - Jul 30 with 2008 views | Sirjohnalot |
Apparently, there was trouble after the game according to someone on the bbc website messages, I left straight after so didn’t see anything myself. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:37 - Jul 30 with 1955 views | Fireboy2 |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:20 - Jul 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Apparently, there was trouble after the game according to someone on the bbc website messages, I left straight after so didn’t see anything myself. |
As the players were clapping the fans there seem to be a melee to the far right of the away support, I also saw one old d!ckhead of a man trying to get at the swans fans outside the ground. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:41 - Jul 30 with 1938 views | Sirjohnalot |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:37 - Jul 30 by Fireboy2 |
As the players were clapping the fans there seem to be a melee to the far right of the away support, I also saw one old d!ckhead of a man trying to get at the swans fans outside the ground. |
I walked back to the multi storey with their fans. Nice bunch. Always going to get idiots in all supporters | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:44 - Jul 30 with 1914 views | jasper_T |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:36 - Jul 30 by krunchykarrot |
Lati does hos best but its obvious that he cannot play WB. Where is Rushesha is he worth looking at? We definitely need pace down the flanks, it was criminal how far Piroe dropped at times. And i keep asking what is Pato doing is he our playmaker? |
Rushesha did his ACL again before the end of last season, not sure how far along he is in recovery. He'd been playing the Naughton role in the middle of the back three for the u23s as he's not a flying wingback type.
McFayden is the best fit for someone to step up, got goals and assists from left wing back last season. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:50 - Jul 30 with 1901 views | QJumpingJack |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:37 - Jul 30 by Fireboy2 |
As the players were clapping the fans there seem to be a melee to the far right of the away support, I also saw one old d!ckhead of a man trying to get at the swans fans outside the ground. |
there was a Swans fan (green jacket) goading the Rotherham fans and then he started to get aggressive to a much older Swans fan in the second row. Very odd and sad to see. He was escorted out and somehow returned just before final whistle. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:52 - Jul 30 with 1889 views | Sirjohnalot |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:50 - Jul 30 by QJumpingJack |
there was a Swans fan (green jacket) goading the Rotherham fans and then he started to get aggressive to a much older Swans fan in the second row. Very odd and sad to see. He was escorted out and somehow returned just before final whistle. |
Yes, I never understand travelling God knows how long from Swansea to spend half the game not watching the match but having a go at the oppo fans. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:06 - Jul 30 with 1854 views | krunchykarrot |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 20:44 - Jul 30 by jasper_T |
Rushesha did his ACL again before the end of last season, not sure how far along he is in recovery. He'd been playing the Naughton role in the middle of the back three for the u23s as he's not a flying wingback type.
McFayden is the best fit for someone to step up, got goals and assists from left wing back last season. |
Thanks Jasper, the times i saw him play he was RWB or attacking FB sad to hear. I missed that as i thought he was on the mend. Where do you see CamCon playing in the current set up? | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:30 - Jul 30 with 1783 views | Catullus |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:05 - Jul 30 by CanveySwan |
First game of the season and we got a point. League isn’t won in August, sorry July 😂. Think we’ll do well this season, like the great Leroy Jethro Gibbs would say, I have a gut feeling. |
Maybe Martin needs to Remember rule 51? | |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:41 - Jul 30 with 1762 views | CanveySwan |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:30 - Jul 30 by Catullus |
Maybe Martin needs to Remember rule 51? |
And Gibbs newest rule number 91, never look back. Think we need to move on from this draw and look forward to the next game | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:53 - Jul 30 with 1704 views | Dr_Parnassus |
It’s 2 points dropped, let’s be fair.
But it’s also not the end of the world, a draw away from home is never a disaster. Slightly disappointing and not the note we would want to start on - but not a disaster.
Needs improvement though. |  |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:53 - Jul 30 with 1715 views | Catullus |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 21:41 - Jul 30 by CanveySwan |
And Gibbs newest rule number 91, never look back. Think we need to move on from this draw and look forward to the next game |
How about rule 5, which is what I think he does by playing Piroe in behind Oba, for me they'd both be up front. Which is where rule 51 comes back in.
I am looking forward to the next game but in the hope that lessons are being learned and things that don't work are changed. | |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 07:40 - Jul 31 with 1298 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 18:49 - Jul 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Just got back.
First of atmosphere was brilliant. Our fans never stopped singing, apart from just after their goal, they were really quiet. Really easy to park and their stewards are probably the most laid back I’ve seen.
First half, you could definitely see the improvement, it wasn’t just passing for the sake of it, we were cutting through them so easily and creating chances, as the half wore on, for some reason we were reluctant to shoot, though, in fairness , it’s hard to say if there was space, bearing in mind we were at the other end. Helluva shot from Darling, apart from their goal and one chance just after we were in control. I didn’t see any of the scary suicidal back passing from last season.
Second half, again we seemed to be trying to score the perfect goal as opposed to having a shot.
Had we not missed the sitter, we’d have won comfortably as Rotherham would’ve had to have come out and attack as opposed to having everyone behind the ball. Their keeper also had a cracking game, and saved a couple of beauties.
Overall, really enjoyed it, much better than last year, with Joe Allen to come back, who will make a big difference, plus, hopefully a couple more coming in, I’m really confident. If nothing else, I’m enjoying football again by a team, trying to play positively.
Bring on Blackpool |
It did seem to be a genuine improvement- trouble is Martin will never sub Grimes - Congreive coming on today for him may have got the job done. Looks like Fulton will be the sacrificial lamb when Allen is fit which is a shame as I favour him over Grimes any day of the week. |  |
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| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 08:29 - Jul 31 with 1240 views | jruss |
Grimes had a good game yesterday while Fulton served up his usual nothing performance outside of almost gifting them a goal with a lazy touch.
Fulton one of the most over rated players we've got. | | | |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 08:30 - Jul 31 with 1236 views | onehunglow |
| NL’s Rotherham United v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 22;23 on 19:15 - Jul 30 by KeithHaynes |
He was MOM.
Obafemi off the pace, not Martins fault.
He had the chances.
Fisher on the pace, a terrific change in his ability, he is obviously working hard.
Some say it’s because of the coach, some say it’s down to the players. Either way it’s only to suit a certain narrative. |
What narrative Keith.
Fans have opposing views.I do not have a narrative and the word is both misused and overused and often used as a pejorative.
Rotherham are a team that will be put to sleep long before the end of the season. We are utterly incapable of doing that. Why is Martin overseeing a team passing it backwards in the 94th minute of play and then sideways. They was zero urgency . Anyway,at least most comments are insult free,which is a positive. | |
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