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Third Covid Wave 10:36 - Jul 16 with 67549 viewsSadoldgit

Infection and hospital rates climbing rapidly. Death rates projected at 200 per day. Nearly 4m people at serious risk. New information coming out about the problems Covid cause the body if it doesn’t kill you. People laid up for the best part of a year with serious complications. Concern over the AstraZenica vaccine. Is it really wise to lift most of the restrictions on Monday? We have been told that we aren’t going back into another lockdown situation no matter what, but Whitty seems to think it might have to be on the cards.
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Third Covid Wave on 10:38 - Jul 26 with 1578 viewssaints__fan__73

So.. Infection rates falling? Will the usual govt. bashers say anything about this?

Meanwhile death and hospitalisation rates in the US are climbing rapidly but well over 90% are the unvaccinated morons.

As for the dullards who refuse to wear a mask indoors or on public transport, I cannot comprehend your level of stupidity. It's a mask ffs, no one's asking you to lay down your life for your country in a foreign land, just put on a mask to protect others.

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Third Covid Wave on 11:14 - Jul 26 with 1552 viewsJaySaint

Third Covid Wave on 10:38 - Jul 26 by saints__fan__73

So.. Infection rates falling? Will the usual govt. bashers say anything about this?

Meanwhile death and hospitalisation rates in the US are climbing rapidly but well over 90% are the unvaccinated morons.

As for the dullards who refuse to wear a mask indoors or on public transport, I cannot comprehend your level of stupidity. It's a mask ffs, no one's asking you to lay down your life for your country in a foreign land, just put on a mask to protect others.


If vaccines work, protect them from what?

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Third Covid Wave on 11:20 - Jul 26 with 1547 viewsBerber

Third Covid Wave on 11:14 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

If vaccines work, protect them from what?


Lower the probablility of new variants by constraining the circulation of the virus?

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Third Covid Wave on 11:22 - Jul 26 with 1541 viewsJaySaint

Third Covid Wave on 11:20 - Jul 26 by Berber

Lower the probablility of new variants by constraining the circulation of the virus?


Then it is lockdown of sorts forever then

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Third Covid Wave on 11:34 - Jul 26 with 1523 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 11:22 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

Then it is lockdown of sorts forever then


Having to wear a mask in a shop or on a train constitutes a lockdown?

How have you coped all these years with having your civil liberties infringed by being legally forced to put clothes on while in public areas!

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Third Covid Wave on 14:14 - Jul 26 with 1469 viewsJaySaint

Third Covid Wave on 11:34 - Jul 26 by saints__fan__73

Having to wear a mask in a shop or on a train constitutes a lockdown?

How have you coped all these years with having your civil liberties infringed by being legally forced to put clothes on while in public areas!


add, passports (it wont stop at COVID), social distancing, locked in with the sniffles et al

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Third Covid Wave on 14:30 - Jul 26 with 1449 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 14:14 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

add, passports (it wont stop at COVID), social distancing, locked in with the sniffles et al


Location chips implanted in the head, yes?

What other passports are you fearing old chap?

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Third Covid Wave on 14:34 - Jul 26 with 1442 viewsJaySaint

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Location chips implanted in the head, yes?

What other passports are you fearing old chap?


if you said a 2 years ago, we would need a passport to go to St Mary's, for an illness being beaten (that had/has an extremely high survival rate), you would have been labelled a lunatic.

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Third Covid Wave on 14:52 - Jul 26 with 1422 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 14:34 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

if you said a 2 years ago, we would need a passport to go to St Mary's, for an illness being beaten (that had/has an extremely high survival rate), you would have been labelled a lunatic.


If you had said 16 months ago when we were all locked down with no vaccine, and games were being played in front of empty stands, that you would be able to take a vaccine that in 99.9999999999999% of cases will have no long-term side-effects whatsoever and you would be able to go to watch games again but still were defiantly refused to take said vaccine you would be rightly have been labelled a lunatic.

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Third Covid Wave on 14:59 - Jul 26 with 1408 viewsJaySaint

Third Covid Wave on 14:52 - Jul 26 by saints__fan__73

If you had said 16 months ago when we were all locked down with no vaccine, and games were being played in front of empty stands, that you would be able to take a vaccine that in 99.9999999999999% of cases will have no long-term side-effects whatsoever and you would be able to go to watch games again but still were defiantly refused to take said vaccine you would be rightly have been labelled a lunatic.


so we agree. Anything is possible from now on. Including say, digital IDs.

Lets say you can't get into St Mary's if you have been involved with the 'law' some point in your past?

Or, for every takeaway you get, £5 is added to your monthly tax take.

Of course, the above is impossible, yes?

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Third Covid Wave on 15:27 - Jul 26 with 1383 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 14:59 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

so we agree. Anything is possible from now on. Including say, digital IDs.

Lets say you can't get into St Mary's if you have been involved with the 'law' some point in your past?

Or, for every takeaway you get, £5 is added to your monthly tax take.

Of course, the above is impossible, yes?


Which of course is a very sane leap to take Jay Jay. Having to prove you have taken a vaccine against a disease that is pandemic and has killed millions around the world can only possibly mean the next step would be not letting in any fan who has a criminal record. I mean it's the only logical step to take next, yes?

Since both you and Mental Matty LT will be persona non-grata at SMS next season have you thought about inviting him round to yours to watch games? He could regale you with his views on climate change and race relations and then, at half time, bring out the big guns and tell you how he believes Bill Gates is sponsoring the assassination of world leaders.

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Third Covid Wave on 15:29 - Jul 26 with 1380 viewsJaySaint

Third Covid Wave on 15:27 - Jul 26 by saints__fan__73

Which of course is a very sane leap to take Jay Jay. Having to prove you have taken a vaccine against a disease that is pandemic and has killed millions around the world can only possibly mean the next step would be not letting in any fan who has a criminal record. I mean it's the only logical step to take next, yes?

Since both you and Mental Matty LT will be persona non-grata at SMS next season have you thought about inviting him round to yours to watch games? He could regale you with his views on climate change and race relations and then, at half time, bring out the big guns and tell you how he believes Bill Gates is sponsoring the assassination of world leaders.


Flu kills millions world wide. Not forced to have a flu jab.

but of course, that is 'mental' to think

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Third Covid Wave on 16:06 - Jul 26 with 1364 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 15:29 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

Flu kills millions world wide. Not forced to have a flu jab.

but of course, that is 'mental' to think


Stop being such a big girl's bra and have the vaccine ya big coward!
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Third Covid Wave on 16:17 - Jul 26 with 1352 viewsJaySaint

Third Covid Wave on 16:06 - Jul 26 by saints__fan__73

Stop being such a big girl's bra and have the vaccine ya big coward!
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I have.

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Third Covid Wave on 16:20 - Jul 26 with 1346 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 16:17 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

I have.


Good stuff. Then you can go to watch games at SMS, problem solved. And no one has put a chip into your head or looked through your criminal record.

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Third Covid Wave on 16:42 - Jul 26 with 1321 viewsBerber

Third Covid Wave on 14:14 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

add, passports (it wont stop at COVID), social distancing, locked in with the sniffles et al


Purdah with the clap?

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Third Covid Wave on 17:08 - Jul 26 with 1305 viewskernow

My mate has tested positive, I haven't and I've been sent home.
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Third Covid Wave on 21:47 - Jul 26 with 1216 viewscocklebreath

Once vaccinated this virus is about as scary as a common cold. I know loads of people who have had it recently and you wouldn’t know they were ill but on the other side I know 2 unvaccinated young people who both ended up in hospital, they are out now but it certainly gave them a scare.

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Third Covid Wave on 22:05 - Jul 26 with 1208 viewsSaintsforeverj

6th day of infections going down. No sign of 200 deaths a day or 100 000 cases. Boris must have known those predictions were completely wrong. 88 % vaccinated too. All good news.
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Third Covid Wave on 22:06 - Jul 26 with 1205 viewscocklebreath

Third Covid Wave on 22:05 - Jul 26 by Saintsforeverj

6th day of infections going down. No sign of 200 deaths a day or 100 000 cases. Boris must have known those predictions were completely wrong. 88 % vaccinated too. All good news.
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The predictions from SAGE and the rest have been shocking, scaremongering at it’s finest

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Third Covid Wave on 22:11 - Jul 26 with 1203 viewsSaintsforeverj

Third Covid Wave on 22:06 - Jul 26 by cocklebreath

The predictions from SAGE and the rest have been shocking, scaremongering at it’s finest


Certainly seems like it. Just glad Boris didn't listen to those totally inaccurate predictions and those calling him wreckless.

Uncanny though, that infections went up and up, only to go down and down, the minute restrictions ended!
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Third Covid Wave on 08:41 - Jul 27 with 1145 viewsJaySaint

not only is everything falling (and can't be credited to lockdown), now we discover over half of COVID hospitalisations are from people who get COVID whilst already in hospital.
I wonder how many that actually is today?

but hey, lets muzzle up and restrict the remaining 66m people

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Third Covid Wave on 09:10 - Jul 27 with 1130 viewssaints__fan__73

Third Covid Wave on 08:41 - Jul 27 by JaySaint

not only is everything falling (and can't be credited to lockdown), now we discover over half of COVID hospitalisations are from people who get COVID whilst already in hospital.
I wonder how many that actually is today?

but hey, lets muzzle up and restrict the remaining 66m people


Muzzle? That's a mental Matty Le Tiss-ism isn't it?

It's just wearing a face mask while shopping indoors or on public transport. It's not really the the most onerous of things to ask us to do really is it......

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Third Covid Wave on 10:43 - Jul 27 with 1112 viewsBerber

Third Covid Wave on 14:14 - Jul 26 by JaySaint

add, passports (it wont stop at COVID), social distancing, locked in with the sniffles et al


Sounds like a good idea for the socially inept.

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Third Covid Wave on 11:24 - Jul 27 with 1100 viewsBerber

Third Covid Wave on 21:47 - Jul 26 by cocklebreath

Once vaccinated this virus is about as scary as a common cold. I know loads of people who have had it recently and you wouldn’t know they were ill but on the other side I know 2 unvaccinated young people who both ended up in hospital, they are out now but it certainly gave them a scare.


That reminds us that what seems innocuous to many, can be devastating for a significant minority.

This next bit isn't about your post, but now I am writing, I'll chuck it up as an argument against the anti vaxers.

When it was reported that 60% of hospitalisations were unvaccinated (after mistakenly reporting the opposite), the hospitalisations were around 800 per day. At that point, 80% of the adult population had been double jabbed. So the double jabbed were contributing 220 people a day to the hospitalisation figure. The residual 480 were people who had NOT been double jabbed. This from 20% of the adult population. If they HAD been double jabbed, we could expect this number to be 55. Therefore, 435 people per day were being hospitalised and consuming valuable NHS resource, preventing other urgent medical procedures being carried out, through a decision not to have the COVID 19 vaccination.

Now I know that everyone is entitled to NHS treatment at the point of need, and there are plenty of other medical conditions that could be categorised as "self inflicted". But the argument that these people are there for selfish reasons still holds. They are in effect, wasting resource that could have so easily been directed at those who had no choice in their need.

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