Salary cap on 11:18 - Feb 10 with 543 views | stevec |
Salary cap on 10:49 - Feb 10 by BazzaInTheLoft | It’s not a conundrum for me and ‘given my politics’ in a industry that is worth £50bn worldwide I quite enjoy the principle that the workers who create the wealth (the footballers not the owners) get rich from it. If only Amazon workers, Deliveroo riders, or even football auxiliary staff had the same. Football finances needs heavy regulation clearly and the income inequality is ruining the game, but as has been said over and over it is the owners that need regulating not the players. A salary cap is a lazy and meaningless term to be honest. Would rather see a overall wage expenditure cap tied to a percentage of income. Better still, throw shitty owners who ruin football clubs in prison and hand over their clubs to the government like we do with banks. John Reid who is the QPR LSA secretary by the way put it better than I ever could in this book: Reclaim the Game : The Death of the People's Game, the Great Premier League Swindle https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1870958357/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_0XV0KPDPBJ90QSV2J [Post edited 10 Feb 2021 11:02]
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There is some sense in an overall wage cap tied to percentage of income, though from a selfish perspective that would be the death of us as a championship club. The advantage of a specific wage cap appeals from a collective perspective, thought you’d like that, gives everyone at least some form of equality. Incidentally, the wage caps in leagues one and two were cleverly thought out to allow even the average club to pay a decent wage and give each club profitability based on their overall income which could then allow those clubs to fund better facilities for their supporters. Imagine that at LR, perhaps they might even invest in seat backs that don’t cripple the support base, perhaps reinstate things like the SAR ST holders bar, stuff like that. Sometimes I think I’m the socialist and you’re the Tory. Where we part company is the idea of football nationalisation, all very Len McCluskey and not on my watch I hope. | ![](/images/avatars/6823.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Salary cap on 11:20 - Feb 10 with 536 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Salary cap on 11:13 - Feb 10 by EastR | “the regulations should be simply around operating losses seem to have it nailed for me. If small clubs want to then chase the big clubs, they can as long as the owners fund it”. The problem with that model is that the majority of owners leverage the funds by saddling the club with debts in the form of loans to them, so the club still gets squeezed in the end. What would work is if they were forced into converting any funding into equity leaving them with all of the risk. Additionally, introduce legislation so that sale of heritage assets such as the stadium could not be traded independently of the club ownership. |
Very true, EastR. | ![](/images/avatars/1570.gif) |
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Salary cap on 11:47 - Feb 10 with 494 views | Ashdown_Ranger | I wonder if there is any merit in adopting/adapting the MLS model? From Goal.com "The salary cap in MLS is the budget each team is allowed to devote towards their roster. For 2019 the MLS salary cap was set at $4.24m (£3.2m) per team for a senior roster of up to 20 players. Teams can also have 'designated' players on a higher salary. A team is not obliged to spread their salary budget across 20 players, but must do so for a minimum of 18 players and no more than 20. If a salary pot of $4.24m was divided equally among a roster of 20 players, each player would receive a salary of $212,000 a year, which works out at roughly $4,000 a week." OK, that's lower league budget, but suitably adapted for the 4 main English divisions, maybe something could be made that's workable. TV money by the bucketload is all well and good, but in the main, the more TV money there is, the higher the transfer costs and wage demands are - those riches rarely, if ever, go towards cheaper ticket prices for fans or better facilities. | ![](/images/avatars/14432.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Salary cap on 12:01 - Feb 10 with 484 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Salary cap on 11:18 - Feb 10 by stevec | There is some sense in an overall wage cap tied to percentage of income, though from a selfish perspective that would be the death of us as a championship club. The advantage of a specific wage cap appeals from a collective perspective, thought you’d like that, gives everyone at least some form of equality. Incidentally, the wage caps in leagues one and two were cleverly thought out to allow even the average club to pay a decent wage and give each club profitability based on their overall income which could then allow those clubs to fund better facilities for their supporters. Imagine that at LR, perhaps they might even invest in seat backs that don’t cripple the support base, perhaps reinstate things like the SAR ST holders bar, stuff like that. Sometimes I think I’m the socialist and you’re the Tory. Where we part company is the idea of football nationalisation, all very Len McCluskey and not on my watch I hope. |
Everyone conversing in good faith and this is your reply 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ | ![](/images/avatars/6600.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Salary cap on 14:12 - Feb 10 with 417 views | stevec |
Salary cap on 12:01 - Feb 10 by BazzaInTheLoft | Everyone conversing in good faith and this is your reply 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ |
I thought it was quite reasonable. | ![](/images/avatars/6823.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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