| Derby County no fine or points deduction 14:24 - Aug 25 with 7509 views | Rangersw12 |
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| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 15:07 - Aug 26 with 1498 views | kensalriser |
Derby’s current owners may have got away with it, whether the club and fans have in the long run is a different matter. |  |
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| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 15:08 - Aug 26 with 1493 views | Rog |
I think it was fairly obvious they'd get away with this, however what the EFL should do is insist on a fair rental value for the ground based on the purchase cost and this must be accounted for annually going forward. I think a typical ratio is about 15 so that should mean a £5M per year cost for ground rent which does count towards their FFP calculation.
The one I thought they would be done for and don't understand why they aren't was the idea that a player still has value at the end of their contract and so they dropped the depreciation on transfers to a lower value. Clearly that value can't be realised so it must become a loss that they need to account for. Baffling and ultimately looks a bit like dodgy accounting to me. | | | |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 15:11 - Aug 26 with 1482 views | Match82 |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 20:20 - Aug 25 by Benny_the_Ball |
To be fair we only started doing the right thing once we were fined for doing the wrong. [Post edited 25 Aug 2020 20:20]
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There aren't many compelling arguments for why FFP is working, but this is one. Their punishment of us "worked" in that we were taking the p*ss and this forced us to get our house in order. |  | | |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 17:06 - Aug 26 with 1341 views | aston_hoop |
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/08/derby-county-club-statement-26th-august-2020
"It is regrettable that clubs who had no involvement in these proceedings ultimately have to pick up the bill for the EFL’s legal costs, and that those clubs who strongly encouraged the EFL to bring proceedings against Derby ought to ask themselves whether they think that outcome is fair"
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| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 19:45 - Aug 26 with 1248 views | Roller |
I've just skimmed through the independent commissions report. They had a few chartered surveyors calculate the depreciated replacement cost of Pride Park based on a cost per seat basis from other stadia adjusted by construction tender price indices. The mid point of these re-build costs was £83.45 million and so they were happy to accept the sell price of £81 million as a fair market price.
There are over 100 pages in the report and this isn't my field so I hope I've used the terminology correctly. |  | | |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 20:33 - Aug 26 with 1202 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 17:06 - Aug 26 by aston_hoop |
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/08/derby-county-club-statement-26th-august-2020
"It is regrettable that clubs who had no involvement in these proceedings ultimately have to pick up the bill for the EFL’s legal costs, and that those clubs who strongly encouraged the EFL to bring proceedings against Derby ought to ask themselves whether they think that outcome is fair"
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"dicks"
It's like they want to become a hate figure.
Like the Mr Perfect of the football world. |  |
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| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 20:55 - Aug 26 with 1167 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 15:11 - Aug 26 by Match82 |
There aren't many compelling arguments for why FFP is working, but this is one. Their punishment of us "worked" in that we were taking the p*ss and this forced us to get our house in order. |
Yeah but it’s only us....every other f u c k e r has cheated their way round the rules. We are the only one who has bent over and taken it up the arris. [Post edited 26 Aug 2020 20:55]
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| Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR. |
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| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 20:58 - Aug 26 with 1150 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 20:55 - Aug 26 by Northolt_Rs |
Yeah but it’s only us....every other f u c k e r has cheated their way round the rules. We are the only one who has bent over and taken it up the arris. [Post edited 26 Aug 2020 20:55]
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Leeds & Luton? |  |
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| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 22:30 - Aug 26 with 1061 views | StanFan |
| Derby County no fine or points deduction on 15:08 - Aug 26 by Rog |
I think it was fairly obvious they'd get away with this, however what the EFL should do is insist on a fair rental value for the ground based on the purchase cost and this must be accounted for annually going forward. I think a typical ratio is about 15 so that should mean a £5M per year cost for ground rent which does count towards their FFP calculation.
The one I thought they would be done for and don't understand why they aren't was the idea that a player still has value at the end of their contract and so they dropped the depreciation on transfers to a lower value. Clearly that value can't be realised so it must become a loss that they need to account for. Baffling and ultimately looks a bit like dodgy accounting to me. |
Rog's first para is the answer here. I know nothing about commercial rental values but saddling Derby with a large annual market-value rent which counts against FFP is actually a reasonable outcome now ... so long as they don't get promoted before this catches up with them.
Of course, I have no confidence that the EFL will stop them pulling another fast one, like buying the stadium back again (which probably doesn't count against FFP). And then selling it again. And repeat. |  | | |
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