| Black Lives Matter 19:25 - May 31 with 20443 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
The most obvious of statements to anyone with quarter of a brain, and yet what a paradox when we have thousands of morons ignoring social distancing, to protest about something, when it’s medically thought that black people are more susceptible. (Yes I know it was not all black people bit majority was).
It appears that the ex police officer and the deceased had personal issues between themselves and as such it’s likely to have nothing to do with race, but that does not stop some protesting in the USA by getting themselves a new tv and burning down a shop.
In no way did he deserve to die, I am sure we all agree, he was a violent criminal but seemed to have turned his life around, but as the tail wags the dog in the USA, fleas start jumping around in the uk.
The police do nothing, had it been the EDL lot then they would have, but they are toothless and only good for telling pensioners off for not understanding the rules.
We have had Cummings hammered, deservedly all week (won’t watch the last leg any more as it’s so left wing it’s sick), but when the second spike hits, it will be down to Boris, not these dickheads ignoring all advice.
To summarise, of course all lives matter, but if you don’t know that already, you won’t ever learn it! |  |
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| Black Lives Matter on 16:27 - Jun 3 with 1761 views | SuddenLad |
| Black Lives Matter on 16:22 - Jun 3 by James1980 |
What are the chances they are right wing agent provacateurs? |
Or even just criminals, thugs and thieves? |  |
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| Black Lives Matter on 16:54 - Jun 3 with 1716 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 16:27 - Jun 3 by SuddenLad |
Or even just criminals, thugs and thieves? |
Or even left wing Antifa. Plenty of videos showing Antifa causing damage and loothing,
Well done to the people who quickly recognise this. |  |
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| Black Lives Matter on 17:06 - Jun 3 with 1706 views | James1980 |
Like those terrible Anti Fascist who landed on the beaches of Normandy in June 1944.
How the hell has being an anti fascist become a pejorative term for crying out loud. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 17:09 - Jun 3 with 1703 views | tony_roch975 |
| Black Lives Matter on 16:54 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
Or even left wing Antifa. Plenty of videos showing Antifa causing damage and loothing,
Well done to the people who quickly recognise this. |
'loothing' must be a new Trumpeting - after the eponymous Donald | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 17:13 - Jun 3 with 1698 views | JumeirahDale |
| Black Lives Matter on 16:11 - Jun 3 by rochdaleriddler |
Many pictures of white people involved in the disorder, as you say not reported widely |
Don't blame anyone for not being bothered to read all this, but some context from here in Boise, Idaho, a significantly red state (Trump won 2016 by 32%) with Boise itself being largely the only predominantly blue population.
A candlelight vigil for George Floyd was arranged last night on the steps of the Capitol building. The crowd numbered in the thousands, difficult to tell based on pictures as it ended up snaking through the streets, but looked like at least a couple of Dale crowds to me, so maybe 5,000. Aside from college football games (the only religion everyone in Middle America agrees on) it will easily have been one of the largest public gatherings in the recent history of the state. Considering the COVID fear, as well as the fact that 2A supporters and libertarians are strolling around with AR-15s, it was an impressive sight in a city with a population about the size of Blackpool.
Congruent with the population of Idaho, at least 90% of the crowd was white. They sat or stood peacefully in front of the Capitol and the park across the street while a memorial service of sorts was held over a tannoy. There were two main disturbances in the entire night:
(1) During the memorial service, a speaker slowly read out names of victims of police brutality over the last few years to a silent crowd. At that point, a group of half a dozen trucks or so pulled up on the road running alongside the side of the Capitol and loudly revved their V8 engines, waved "TRUMP 2020" flags and chanted "blue lives matter". Several were of course armed, as they usually need to be.
(2) Towards the end of the night (post-midnight) when the vast majority of the crowd had filtered home, two very small groups shouted obscenities at each other while the police formed a line between them. It threatened to boil over a couple of times, particularly between a younger black man and an older white man, the latter is on video shouting the n-word as he was pulled away by his mates. But generally the police did an excellent job.
Trump will carry the state in November of course, but Biden will pick up a hell of a lot more traction than Hillary did. |  | | |
| Black Lives Matter on 17:16 - Jun 3 with 1693 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 17:09 - Jun 3 by tony_roch975 |
'loothing' must be a new Trumpeting - after the eponymous Donald |
Called being dyslexic, hense 95% posts have spelling mistakes in them, but thanks for being so tolerant. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 17:20 - Jun 3 with 1690 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 17:06 - Jun 3 by James1980 |
Like those terrible Anti Fascist who landed on the beaches of Normandy in June 1944.
How the hell has being an anti fascist become a pejorative term for crying out loud. |
What the that got to do with loothing sorry Tony looting, they are plenty of live stream videos of them causing trouble | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 17:44 - Jun 3 with 1636 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Black Lives Matter on 12:52 - Jun 3 by Brierls |
SuddenLad's first post on the thread sums it up for me.
I know somebody listed things you shouldn't talk about on the messageboard, with religion being one of them, but I have been taken by surprise at the brainwashed religious posts on Twitter. Trump could beat their youngest to death with a bible and these idiots would thank him for it.
When this thread started, I was waiting for 'jonesy' to appear. One click on this username and viewing the posts told you all you need to know. That is past tense, as clicking the username says user no longer exists. Good riddance.
Thacks is coming across like one of the older generation. He doesn't think he's being racist, but some of the things he says can easily be interepted as racist, he just can't see it. Like I said, I don't think its his intention and Riddler lost the plot (again). |
I don’t know. When he cites the EDL as being victims of heavy handed police tactics I tend to think there may be some intention there. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 17:47 - Jun 3 with 1628 views | James1980 |
| Black Lives Matter on 17:20 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
What the that got to do with loothing sorry Tony looting, they are plenty of live stream videos of them causing trouble |
Just that anti fascist shouldn't be a stand point that gets one criticised. Being a looter absolutely. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:04 - Jun 3 with 1599 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 17:47 - Jun 3 by James1980 |
Just that anti fascist shouldn't be a stand point that gets one criticised. Being a looter absolutely. |
Wow just wow, so now we cant use Antifa and lootng in the same sentence.
All them live streams saying Antifa members are causing trouble and looting must be lying. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:07 - Jun 3 with 1595 views | SuddenLad |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:04 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
Wow just wow, so now we cant use Antifa and lootng in the same sentence.
All them live streams saying Antifa members are causing trouble and looting must be lying. |
They can label them with any title they like. They are meaningless. They are burglars, robbers and thieves. No other classification necessary. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:13 - Jun 3 with 1573 views | James1980 |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:04 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
Wow just wow, so now we cant use Antifa and lootng in the same sentence.
All them live streams saying Antifa members are causing trouble and looting must be lying. |
You knew exactly what you were doing using looting and antifa in the same sentence. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:27 - Jun 3 with 1556 views | joecooke |
not good |  |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:32 - Jun 3 with 1542 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:13 - Jun 3 by James1980 |
You knew exactly what you were doing using looting and antifa in the same sentence. |
Damm right I was, like i would if it was EDL scum,American right wing scum, Islamist terrorist sympathizers scum etc etc who was loothing sorry Tony mean looting and causing trouble.
The truth has no boundaries.
I really hope this peaceful movement doesn't get overshadowed by all this, as the policing has to change in America. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:38 - Jun 3 with 1527 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:27 - Jun 3 by joecooke |
not good |
Sadly the sheep will follow | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:40 - Jun 3 with 1521 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:32 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
Damm right I was, like i would if it was EDL scum,American right wing scum, Islamist terrorist sympathizers scum etc etc who was loothing sorry Tony mean looting and causing trouble.
The truth has no boundaries.
I really hope this peaceful movement doesn't get overshadowed by all this, as the policing has to change in America. |
Are you an anti-fascist? | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:43 - Jun 3 with 1514 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:40 - Jun 3 by BigDaveMyCock |
Are you an anti-fascist? |
Class myself as a realist, who follows the law, and respect every human being, as in my eyes their is only race and that's the human race we are all equal as one. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 18:48]
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:46 - Jun 3 with 1502 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:43 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
Class myself as a realist, who follows the law, and respect every human being, as in my eyes their is only race and that's the human race we are all equal as one. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 18:48]
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Does that mean you’re not anti-fascist? | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:52 - Jun 3 with 1484 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:46 - Jun 3 by BigDaveMyCock |
Does that mean you’re not anti-fascist? |
Am anti discrimination, I dont believe in Antifa think they are scum bags, who use divide and conquer (just like political parties and ring wing parties) to cause fear and panic. | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:57 - Jun 3 with 1477 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:52 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
Am anti discrimination, I dont believe in Antifa think they are scum bags, who use divide and conquer (just like political parties and ring wing parties) to cause fear and panic. |
I’ll try again, are you anti-fascist? | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 18:58 - Jun 3 with 1475 views | Dale23years |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:57 - Jun 3 by BigDaveMyCock |
I’ll try again, are you anti-fascist? |
And I tell you again am anti discrimination not rocket science | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 19:02 - Jun 3 with 1464 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Black Lives Matter on 18:58 - Jun 3 by Dale23years |
And I tell you again am anti discrimination not rocket science |
What aspects of fascism appeal to you? | |
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| Black Lives Matter on 19:11 - Jun 3 with 1429 views | D_Alien |
| Black Lives Matter on 19:02 - Jun 3 by BigDaveMyCock |
What aspects of fascism appeal to you? |
Do you find him fascinating? |  |
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| Black Lives Matter on 19:24 - Jun 3 with 1375 views | fermin |
| Black Lives Matter on 17:06 - Jun 3 by James1980 |
Like those terrible Anti Fascist who landed on the beaches of Normandy in June 1944.
How the hell has being an anti fascist become a pejorative term for crying out loud. |
Probably when some on the left decided to redefine Fascism to mean anybody who disagrees with their ideology. It really is not perjorative to be against real Fascism and the genuine far-right, but the term has been hijacked. When you get people in the UK thinking they live in a Fascist, even Nazi, dictatorship the term ceases to have any real meaning and is an insult to those who genuinely had to endure Nazi/Fascist rule in the 1930s/40s.
I imagine the current AntiFa would regard many of the soldiers in the Allied armies as Fascists themselves given the way the term has moved and how societal attitudes have changed for the better in the intervening decades (though pointing this out is not always welcomed). Normally left-wing identity politics activists like to reinterpret the past and people from the past negatively and anachronistically - it is surprising to see them suddenly sanctify it when it suits.
A different view of looting:
I was going to say some other things but I think I will just post a few links.
I am not qualified to judge it academically but I did find this paper which from reading as a layman seems reasonably objective (and it is based on data collated partly by the Guardian so that is unimpeachable) and is a bit contrary to the mainstream perception:
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877
Perhaps it would be a good idea to think about police violence in the context of a violent society with many powerful weapons freely available. This article from 2016 makes some good points, I think, and it is sad that I feel I have to point out that the author is black:
https://time.com/4404987/police-violence/
At one point he says 'Many might reasonably assume that on the topic of the police, the purpose of this conversation will be to inform white America of the role that racist bias plays in these lethal encounters. However, might we open up to the possibility that the conversation will also include black people learning that racist bias may play much less of a role in these cases than one might think?'
Here is a disturbing video of the Shaver case mentioned in the above article:
And here is another not that dissimilar to the current case:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tony-timpa-disturbing-video-shows-dallas-officers-j |  | | |
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